Chernobyl: The true scale of the accident

[kombolcha]

http://www.physorg.com/news6243.html

Major Study Findings

Dozens of important findings are included in the massive report:

-- Approximately 1,000 on-site reactor staff and emergency workers were heavily exposed to high-level radiation on the first day of the accident; among the more than 200,000 emergency and recovery operation workers exposed during the period from 1986-1987, an estimated 2,200 radiation-caused deaths can be expected during their lifetime.

-- An estimated five million people currently live in areas of Belarus, Russia and Ukraine that are contaminated with radionuclides due to the accident; about 100,000 of them live in areas classified in the past by government authorities as areas of "strict control". The existing "zoning" definitions need to be revisited and relaxed in light of the new findings.

-- About 4,000 cases of thyroid cancer, mainly in children and adolescents at the time of the accident, have resulted from the accident's contamination and at least nine children died of thyroid cancer; however the survival rate among such cancer victims, judging from experience in Belarus, has been almost 99%.

-- Most emergency workers and people living in contaminated areas received relatively low whole body radiation doses, comparable to natural background levels. As a consequence, no evidence or likelihood of decreased fertility among the affected population has been found, nor has there been any evidence of increases in congenital malformations that can be attributed to radiation exposure.

-- Poverty, "lifestyle" diseases now rampant in the former Soviet Union and mental health problems pose a far greater threat to local communities than does radiation exposure.

-- Relocation proved a "deeply traumatic experience" for some 350,000 people moved out of the affected areas. Although 116,000 were moved from the most heavily impacted area immediately after the accident, later relocations did little to reduce radiation exposure.

-- Persistent myths and misperceptions about the threat of radiation have resulted in "paralyzing fatalism" among residents of affected areas.

-- Ambitious rehabilitation and social benefit programs started by the former Soviet Union, and continued by Belarus, Russia and Ukraine, need reformulation due to changes in radiation conditions, poor targeting and funding shortages.

-- Structural elements of the sarcophagus built to contain the damaged reactor have degraded, posing a risk of collapse and the release of radioactive dust;

-- A comprehensive plan to dispose of tons of high-level radioactive waste at and around the Chernobyl NPP site, in accordance with current safety standards, has yet to be defined.

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-- Structural elements of the sarcophagus built to contain the damaged reactor have degraded, posing a risk of collapse and the release of radioactive dust;

-- A comprehensive plan to dispose of tons of high-level radioactive waste at and around the Chernobyl NPP site, in accordance with current safety standards, has yet to be defined.

yep. chernobil 2 can be coming.

in fact there is tons of nuclear waste all around ex ussr, which was burried in containers which can only last around 50 years and are about to give out soon.

i have seen video on tv about this park in a big city where kids are playing in the river next to some trees, and on the other side of this trees there are huge patches of dead grass and trees with no signs of life. apparently the huge containers with nuclear and toxic wastes were dug down there in the end of world war 2, when this place was a middle of nowhere. now there is a city on top and the containers are already leaking.

this is just one of the many "about to happen" disasters in ex-ussr.

no one in power cared about the future even a little bit back then.

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[webeagle12]

And this is all because of few people, who decided to make retarded decisions there,

Some companies put most inexperienced idiots to controls and it?s amazing to see those people have no freaking idea what to do in emergency.

3 miles island almost was Chernobyl 2, hours away from it

dont blame the people, blame the freaking government for screwing it up

[SunnyB]

These environmentally hazardous waste dumps and spills are not limited

to the USSR or any other European country. There are many just like

them in the US. Things that you will probably never hear about.

Tullahoma Air Force base, Tennessee.

Before and during WWII and up until the 1970's, solvent, airplane and jet

fuels and countless other contaminants were stored in containers and

even dumped directly onto the ground in and around this area. As a

result of this rampant, uncontrolled dumping, the entire mid-Tennessee

area now has contaminated ground water. Mercury and silver oxides

have been seeping into local wells and city water systems.

The US government has been attempting to draw the contaminated

ground water out and recycling it through hundreds of miles of intake

and discharge pipes. Hundreds of glass lined holding tanks to store

the collected contaminants. I have seen these tanks and the maze

of pipes being buried into the ground.

As a further result of this contamination, the area around Tullahoma

has seen an increase in cases of Crohn's disease, colitis and other

intestinal disorders that border on epidemic proportions. Although

the US government admits no liability, even a blind person can see

the cause and effect.

The sad part about this, in addition to the human tragedy, is that only

18 miles away is a town called Lynchburg, TN., reknown as the home

of Jack Daniels Whiskey. Is that what makes Jack Daniels so good??

[WesleyT]

its a big disaster but it aint an environmental disaster :p

and yeah there is danger a 2 is coming

[quick]

These environmentally hazardous waste dumps and spills are not limited

to the USSR or any other European country.  There are many just like

them in the US. Things that you will probably never hear about.

Tullahoma Air Force base, Tennessee.

Before and during WWII and up until the 1970's, solvent, airplane and jet

fuels and countless other contaminants were stored in containers and

even dumped directly onto the ground in and around this area.  As a

result of this rampant, uncontrolled dumping, the entire mid-Tennessee

area now has contaminated ground water. Mercury and silver oxides

have been seeping into local wells and city water systems.

The US government has been attempting to draw the contaminated

ground water out and recycling it through hundreds of miles of intake

and discharge pipes. Hundreds of glass lined holding tanks to store

the collected contaminants. I have seen these tanks and the maze

of pipes being buried into the ground.

As a further result of this contamination, the area around Tullahoma

has seen an increase in cases of Crohn's disease, colitis and other

intestinal disorders that border on epidemic proportions. Although

the US government admits no liability, even a blind person can see

the cause and effect.

The sad part about this, in addition to the human tragedy, is that only

18 miles away is a town called Lynchburg, TN., reknown as the home

of Jack Daniels Whiskey.  Is that what makes Jack Daniels so good??

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Unrelated to this thread, but you mention "the area around Tullahoma

has seen an increase in cases of Crohn's disease, colitis and other

intestinal disorders that border on epidemic proportions"

I have Crohn's, and after some research i believe its due to Mycobacterium avium, subspecies paratuberculosis (MAP) which is found in MILK, from cows. The US/Canada does not enforce this to be removed from MILK and people who are suceptable to it will get it. It's similar to tuberculosis which is extremely difficult to develop a working antibiotic to kill. Perhaps some of those contaminants over there has caused alot of people to become more susceptable to it. Europe does enforce that there is no MAP in thier milk... why hasn't the US/Canada done this too?? Who knows...argh

[Linkinfamous]

And this is all because of few people, who decided to make retarded decisions there,

Some companies put most inexperienced idiots to controls and it?s amazing to see those people have no freaking idea what to do in emergency.

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Flawed reactor design. The guys in charge knew about the flaw, and didn't tell the operators, who designed to run a test...

Pity.

[Miran]

In the little research I did just now it seems that opinions are rather mixed as to whether M. paratuberculosis is responsible for Crohn's. For example this site seems to suggest it is a commensal or opportunistic pathogen.

Back on topic, russia is so screwed in so many ways.

Unrelated to this thread, but you mention "the area around Tullahoma

has seen an increase in cases of Crohn's disease, colitis and other

intestinal disorders that border on epidemic proportions"

I have Crohn's, and after some research i believe its due to Mycobacterium avium, subspecies paratuberculosis (MAP) which is found in MILK, from cows. The US/Canada does not enforce this to be removed from MILK and people who are suceptable to it will get it. It's similar to tuberculosis which is extremely difficult to develop a working antibiotic to kill. Perhaps some of those contaminants over there has caused alot of people to become more susceptable to it. Europe does enforce that there is no MAP in thier milk... why hasn't the US/Canada done this too?? Who knows...argh

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[Shibby]

When this happened my dad was in the navy and was just doing some normal testing and learning on some weather equiment.

They had noticed a strange temperture reading everywhere. I forgot if it was going up instead of down.

They phoned up some higher people and said they know the reason but couldn't say anything. few days later chernobyl was in the paper.

But it's also been said that even france and UK had a slight wiff of radation.

[DigeratiPrime]

3 miles island almost was Chernobyl 2, hours away from it

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just fyi, TMI happened about 7 years before Chernobyl.

[Pliskin]

just fyi, TMI happened about 7 years before Chernobyl.

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[Orange]

This happen ages ago why bring up? and we know the truth anyways..they done loads of programs base on it and a book.

[ShaneSparky_YYZ]

...after some research i believe its due to Mycobacterium avium, subspecies paratuberculosis (MAP) which is found in MILK, from cows. The US/Canada does not enforce this to be removed from MILK and people who are suceptable to it will get it. It's similar to tuberculosis which is extremely difficult to develop a working antibiotic to kill. Perhaps some of those contaminants over there has caused alot of people to become more susceptable to it. Europe does enforce that there is no MAP in thier milk... why hasn't the US/Canada done this too?? Who knows...argh

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Thank god I don't drink Milk or related products. :o

[Doli]

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was that really necessary, this is very serious kid. :rolleyes: