kirk26 Posted October 6, 2005 Share Posted October 6, 2005 Google formally declares war on MicrosoftWe will fight them on the breaches By Nick Farrell: Thursday 06 October 2005, 07:05 GOOGLE HAS confirmed that it will launch free spreadsheet and word-processing software online and take on Microsoft in one of its biggest markets. Under the deal, Google will allow web users to access Sun's OpenOffice from a toolbar. The other day, when Sun's Scott McNealy and his former employee now Google chief Eric Schmidt met up, Sun was wary about doing that. When asked point blank, McNealy said it was something to be investigated. However Sun's Australian spokesman Paul O'Connor was a little more forthright about the deal which he said was "huge". He bubbled that the deal was a wake-up call for Microsoft. "At the moment most people are used to having to pay for software packages, but at the end of the day, the value is in the content and services ? not in the software itself," he said http://theinquirer.net/?article=26734 586632217[/snapback] Yawn.......... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/381642-google-formally-declares-war-on-microsoft/page/5/#findComment-586634249 Share on other sites More sharing options...
:No-Frost: Posted October 6, 2005 Share Posted October 6, 2005 Woooo at least some one faces Microsoft... Mmm this make's me think... Could be possible in a future to had a "Google Desktop OS"??? That would be pretty cool... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/381642-google-formally-declares-war-on-microsoft/page/5/#findComment-586634280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
qkslvr221 Posted October 6, 2005 Share Posted October 6, 2005 OMG yes a Google-OS would be legendary! I can see it now, "Come test our latest build of GoogleHorn alpha!' (watches them rename it to Gvista :p ) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/381642-google-formally-declares-war-on-microsoft/page/5/#findComment-586634294 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwIzTiD_Juggalo Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 OMG yes a Google-OS would be legendary!I can see it now, "Come test our latest build of GoogleHorn alpha!' (watches them rename it to Gvista :p ) 586634294[/snapback] Gvista hahaha that's great. :rofl: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/381642-google-formally-declares-war-on-microsoft/page/5/#findComment-586634323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aludanyi Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 I don't know! But learning from the past I know it is not a clever thing to mess up with Microsoft. Right now if you ask me to bet, I would put money on on the death of Google, just because they took a way bigger bite they can swallow. Knowing your place in the Software industry is essential to survive and obviously Google overlook this little detail. The lack of experience in the business will cost them a lot, Microsoft is taking on the search market, the only thing Google know how to do, at the other hand, Microsoft is very good on various areas but if you consider the productivity tools market, they are the real giant and the most experienced super master of things, Google don?t have nor the experience neither the resources for bearing a long war, and if they lose a focus on the searching business they are in deep trouble. And yes it is now very sexy to be in war with the mean and bad Microsoft, but? then again sexy is not a very winner attribute in the world of business that?s one thing Google need to understand, anyway I wish good luck to both side and hope it will generate some innovation and positive value to the customers, and yes the better one will eventually win at the end. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/381642-google-formally-declares-war-on-microsoft/page/5/#findComment-586634344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BajiRav Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 I don't know! But learning from the past I know it is not a clever thing to mess up with Microsoft. Right now if you ask me to bet, I would put money on on the death of Google, just because they took a way bigger bite they can swallow. ... 586634344[/snapback] I guess nobody knows this better than Google's CEO who was Netscape's CEO. He did the same mistake then (challenged Windows putting too many resource on "web") and look what Microsoft did to Netscape. Microsoft once fully awaken might come down heavily on Google in the same way. Although this time bundling with Windows might not work. But they are not world's largest software company for nothing. Lets see the outcome. sit back, relax & enjoy the ride. :whistle: Personally I won't declare war on Microsoft using OpenOffice as my weapon. :rofl: :ninja: :devil: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/381642-google-formally-declares-war-on-microsoft/page/5/#findComment-586634468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottKin Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 Now, let's see if I get this straight... 1) Install Google Toolbar that contains all kind of link-reporting code that sends to Google all of my searches if I don't disable it when I install it. :huh: 2) Google Toolbar, still filled with all of that reporting code, contains links to fire-up components of OpenOffice. :unsure: So, the logical question follows: When I launch a OpenOffice component from my Google Toolbar, how am I do know that the Google Toolbar isn't reporting back to Google and/or Sun every time I click on those buttons on the toolbar? :o Google & Sun would then know every tine I used their product! What an imaginative way to prove customer-share by how many users clicked on one of the OpenOffice buttons!! :no: Until Google and Sun can prove that no such data is being sent on the usage of OpenOffice, I would stay away from this like the plague! :angry: And you thought that Microsoft's process of sending non-identifyable info about your system was eggregious!! :woot: --ScottKin Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/381642-google-formally-declares-war-on-microsoft/page/5/#findComment-586634570 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nekrosoft13 Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 Hasn't OpenOffice been out there for ages... for free? 586632248[/snapback] yes i tried it two years ago, it was rather bad, couldn't open quite a few word, powerpoint files Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/381642-google-formally-declares-war-on-microsoft/page/5/#findComment-586634682 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystical112 Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 [quote name='Max?' date='Oct 6 2005, 11:09:laugh:h: I have to thank Google, this could cut the price of the Microsoft office suite in half if its done right. 586632231[/snapback] yup... google is making the world a cheaper place..:D:D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/381642-google-formally-declares-war-on-microsoft/page/5/#findComment-586634776 Share on other sites More sharing options...
imtoomuch Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 I like Google, but don't necessarily trust them.It is nice, however, for people to have a choice in who they trust or not. Better than a Microsoft monopoly. ;) 586632552[/snapback] Alternative office applications have existed for a long time in both open source and commercial forms. You know this. The problem is that there is currently nothing better than Microsoft Office and that's a fact. There's a reason Microsoft dominates when it comes to office applications and operating systems. That's because they have superior products. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/381642-google-formally-declares-war-on-microsoft/page/5/#findComment-586634874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecableguy Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 i love microsoft word, powerpoint, excel...it would be a hard switch. :( Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/381642-google-formally-declares-war-on-microsoft/page/5/#findComment-586635112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrisCr0ss Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 iunoo if ill even switch using office 2k3 let me tell u publisher + word + powerpoint do it for me... never tried open office Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/381642-google-formally-declares-war-on-microsoft/page/5/#findComment-586635103 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconian Guppy Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 Yes, but now it says "Google" so it's alright. :p 586632452[/snapback] :yes: gpwnz Victor Rambo 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/381642-google-formally-declares-war-on-microsoft/page/5/#findComment-586635125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexandrea Fride Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 So you honestly believe the majority of Internet users search with MSN Search!? Google has practically erased MSN Search from the map in web searching, even after MS boldly released their "Google killer".They beat MS to a pulp once again with Google Earth despite Virtual Earth, regardless if MS had TerraServer before. It doesn't matter; people loved Google Earth/Maps. They didn't like old black&white photos. MS has all reasons to monitor Google's actions closely from now on, regarding the web services business. A lot of people also like/love Google, and that doesn't go in Microsoft's favor either. 586632606[/snapback] wel say'd :yes: :yes: and what haves google 70miljoen dollars? and look at microsoft the have 100BILJARD dollars or more .. i don't know realy how muth but it is in BILJARD as i'm for sure comon ... its google right to make mony as is you'r if you go to work .... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/381642-google-formally-declares-war-on-microsoft/page/5/#findComment-586635127 Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamhook Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 World War 4.54 RC2 beta 1 :D - LOL!!!!! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/381642-google-formally-declares-war-on-microsoft/page/5/#findComment-586635167 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smigit Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 However, Microsoft's problem has lately been that their customers don't NEED an Office suite incredibly feature packed. That's why plenty currently use Office 97 and 2000 over five years after their releases.... Perhaps but if 97 and 2000 does everything the user needs then openoffice (or staroffice from which google would be using) offer nothing that would pull users either. In the end I still think Office 12 appears at the moment to have the most compelling features and looks a much better upgrade than open office 2 is.Ill give OoO a few more years, 2.0 is nice but I still feel its behind MS Office some bit. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/381642-google-formally-declares-war-on-microsoft/page/5/#findComment-586635431 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smigit Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 wel say'd :yes: :yes: and what haves google 70miljoen dollars? and look at microsoft the have 100BILJARD dollars or more .. i don't know realy how muth but it is in BILJARD as i'm for sure comon ... its google right to make mony as is you'r if you go to work .... 586635127[/snapback] perhaps microsoft should just buy em out :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/381642-google-formally-declares-war-on-microsoft/page/5/#findComment-586635435 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexandrea Fride Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 perhaps microsoft should just buy em out :p 586635435[/snapback] i don't think that wil ever happen :shifty: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/381642-google-formally-declares-war-on-microsoft/page/5/#findComment-586635463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daviesbad04 Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 Microsoft? Buy Google? Thats like, Satan convincing God to join him As for free spreadsheet, I like. I like any company that makes anything with the word FREE on it :yes: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/381642-google-formally-declares-war-on-microsoft/page/5/#findComment-586635467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathray Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 If Office 97 or 2000 do everything a user needs, then why would they switch to O12? Also, when they get other PCs, they can't install the same Office on all of them (legally, anyhow). OO.o has an advantage there.However, OO.o isn't for everyone. Just good to have a choice. 586635458[/snapback] While Office as early as office 97 may have all the features that are needed. Isn't it how the UI has been designed that makes Office 12 so useful? The features have been there, and now Office 12 makes it easier to use the tools to the maximum. I read that's the key that makes Office 12 "wow". Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/381642-google-formally-declares-war-on-microsoft/page/5/#findComment-586635468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daviesbad04 Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 World War 4.54 RC2 beta 1 :D - LOL!!!!! 586635167[/snapback] Lmao, Im sorry but that had me fall off my chair :rofl: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/381642-google-formally-declares-war-on-microsoft/page/5/#findComment-586635471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
markwolfe Veteran Posted October 7, 2005 Veteran Share Posted October 7, 2005 Perhaps but if 97 and 2000 does everything the user needs then openoffice (or staroffice from which google would be using) offer nothing that would pull users either. In the end I still think Office 12 appears at the moment to have the most compelling features and looks a much better upgrade than open office 2 is.Ill give OoO a few more years, 2.0 is nice but I still feel its behind MS Office some bit. 586635431[/snapback] If Office 97 or 2000 do everything a user needs, then why would they switch to O12? Also, when they get other PCs, they can't install the same Office on all of them (legally, anyhow). OO.o has an advantage there. However, OO.o isn't for everyone. Just good to have a choice. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/381642-google-formally-declares-war-on-microsoft/page/5/#findComment-586635458 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smigit Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 If Office 97 or 2000 do everything a user needs, then why would they switch to O12? Also, when they get other PCs, they can't install the same Office on all of them (legally, anyhow). OO.o has an advantage there.However, OO.o isn't for everyone. Just good to have a choice. 586635458[/snapback] what I meant that if a user was going to change then I think Office 12 is certainly a more compelling upgrade path. Yes alot of users will sit on what they have but that doesnt help google either. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/381642-google-formally-declares-war-on-microsoft/page/5/#findComment-586635604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEVER85 Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 Ya What I love the Google vs Microsoft wars is that Google completely reinvents the wheel in a more pratical sensible way, EVERY time. Microsoft, is just a lost child at this point following what ever is in front of it. Have you seen the microsoft earth? Come on. Completely ripped off Google.Microsoft is sad, they should stick to what they do best, and that's suck. 586632279[/snapback] Microsoft is better than you at everything. Besides the fact that Apple overprices everything, but that's another story unrelated to this topic. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/381642-google-formally-declares-war-on-microsoft/page/5/#findComment-586635655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigGiantHead Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 There's a reason why Microsoft dominates the Office market, they make a damn good product. Sure, I think it could do with a major price slash, but the companies who buy the software can afford it. Just because something has a Google brand on it doesn't mean that it's going to be equal or better than Office. I wonder if it will ever get out of the betas stage? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/381642-google-formally-declares-war-on-microsoft/page/5/#findComment-586635643 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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