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Google formally declares war on Microsoft

We will fight them on the breaches

By Nick Farrell: Thursday 06 October 2005, 07:05

GOOGLE HAS confirmed that it will launch free spreadsheet and word-processing software online and take on Microsoft in one of its biggest markets.

Under the deal, Google will allow web users to access Sun's OpenOffice from a toolbar.

The other day, when Sun's Scott McNealy and his former employee now Google chief Eric Schmidt met up, Sun was wary about doing that.

When asked point blank, McNealy said it was something to be investigated. However Sun's Australian spokesman Paul O'Connor was a little more forthright about the deal which he said was "huge".

He bubbled that the deal was a wake-up call for Microsoft.

"At the moment most people are used to having to pay for software packages, but at the end of the day, the value is in the content and services ? not in the software itself," he said

http://theinquirer.net/?article=26734

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Yawn..........

I don't know! But learning from the past I know it is not a clever thing to mess up with Microsoft. Right now if you ask me to bet, I would put money on on the death of Google, just because they took a way bigger bite they can swallow. Knowing your place in the Software industry is essential to survive and obviously Google overlook this little detail. The lack of experience in the business will cost them a lot, Microsoft is taking on the search market, the only thing Google know how to do, at the other hand, Microsoft is very good on various areas but if you consider the productivity tools market, they are the real giant and the most experienced super master of things, Google don?t have nor the experience neither the resources for bearing a long war, and if they lose a focus on the searching business they are in deep trouble. And yes it is now very sexy to be in war with the mean and bad Microsoft, but? then again sexy is not a very winner attribute in the world of business that?s one thing Google need to understand, anyway I wish good luck to both side and hope it will generate some innovation and positive value to the customers, and yes the better one will eventually win at the end.

I don't know! But learning from the past I know it is not a clever thing to mess up with Microsoft. Right now if you ask me to bet, I would put money on on the death of Google, just because they took a way bigger bite they can swallow. ...

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I guess nobody knows this better than Google's CEO who was Netscape's CEO. He did the same mistake then (challenged Windows putting too many resource on "web") and look what Microsoft did to Netscape.

Microsoft once fully awaken might come down heavily on Google in the same way. Although this time bundling with Windows might not work. But they are not world's largest software company for nothing.

Lets see the outcome. sit back, relax & enjoy the ride. :whistle:

Personally I won't declare war on Microsoft using OpenOffice as my weapon. :rofl: :ninja: :devil:

Now, let's see if I get this straight...

1) Install Google Toolbar that contains all kind of link-reporting code that sends to Google all of my searches if I don't disable it when I install it. :huh:

2) Google Toolbar, still filled with all of that reporting code, contains links to fire-up components of OpenOffice. :unsure:

So, the logical question follows:

When I launch a OpenOffice component from my Google Toolbar, how am I do know that the Google Toolbar isn't reporting back to Google and/or Sun every time I click on those buttons on the toolbar? :o

Google & Sun would then know every tine I used their product! What an imaginative way to prove customer-share by how many users clicked on one of the OpenOffice buttons!! :no:

Until Google and Sun can prove that no such data is being sent on the usage of OpenOffice, I would stay away from this like the plague! :angry:

And you thought that Microsoft's process of sending non-identifyable info about your system was eggregious!! :woot:

--ScottKin

I like Google, but don't necessarily trust them.

It is nice, however, for people to have a choice in who they trust or not.  Better than a Microsoft monopoly. ;)

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Alternative office applications have existed for a long time in both open source and commercial forms. You know this. The problem is that there is currently nothing better than Microsoft Office and that's a fact. There's a reason Microsoft dominates when it comes to office applications and operating systems. That's because they have superior products.

So you honestly believe the majority of Internet users search with MSN Search!? Google has practically erased MSN Search from the map in web searching, even after MS boldly released their "Google killer".

They beat MS to a pulp once again with Google Earth despite Virtual Earth, regardless if MS had TerraServer before. It doesn't matter; people loved Google Earth/Maps. They didn't like old black&white photos. MS has all reasons to monitor Google's actions closely from now on, regarding the web services business. A lot of people also like/love Google, and that doesn't go in Microsoft's favor either.

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wel say'd :yes: :yes:

and what haves google 70miljoen dollars?

and look at microsoft the have 100BILJARD dollars or more .. i don't know realy how muth but it is in BILJARD as i'm for sure

comon ... its google right to make mony as is you'r if you go to work ....

However, Microsoft's problem has lately been that their customers don't NEED an Office suite incredibly feature packed. That's why plenty currently use Office 97 and 2000 over five years after their releases....

Perhaps but if 97 and 2000 does everything the user needs then openoffice (or staroffice from which google would be using) offer nothing that would pull users either. In the end I still think Office 12 appears at the moment to have the most compelling features and looks a much better upgrade than open office 2 is.

Ill give OoO a few more years, 2.0 is nice but I still feel its behind MS Office some bit.

wel say'd  :yes:  :yes:

and what haves google 70miljoen dollars?

and look at microsoft the have 100BILJARD dollars or more .. i don't know realy how muth but it is in BILJARD as i'm for sure

comon ... its google right to make mony as is you'r if you go to work ....

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perhaps microsoft should just buy em out :p

If Office 97 or 2000 do everything a user needs, then why would they switch to O12?  Also, when they get other PCs, they can't install the same Office on all of them (legally, anyhow).  OO.o has an advantage there.

However, OO.o isn't for everyone.  Just good to have a choice.

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While Office as early as office 97 may have all the features that are needed. Isn't it how the UI has been designed that makes Office 12 so useful? The features have been there, and now Office 12 makes it easier to use the tools to the maximum. I read that's the key that makes Office 12 "wow".

Perhaps but if 97 and 2000 does everything the user needs then openoffice (or staroffice from which google would be using) offer nothing that would pull users either. In the end I still think Office 12 appears at the moment to have the most compelling features and looks a much better upgrade than open office 2 is.

Ill give OoO a few more years, 2.0 is nice but I still feel its behind MS Office some bit.

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If Office 97 or 2000 do everything a user needs, then why would they switch to O12? Also, when they get other PCs, they can't install the same Office on all of them (legally, anyhow). OO.o has an advantage there.

However, OO.o isn't for everyone. Just good to have a choice.

If Office 97 or 2000 do everything a user needs, then why would they switch to O12?  Also, when they get other PCs, they can't install the same Office on all of them (legally, anyhow).  OO.o has an advantage there.

However, OO.o isn't for everyone.  Just good to have a choice.

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what I meant that if a user was going to change then I think Office 12 is certainly a more compelling upgrade path. Yes alot of users will sit on what they have but that doesnt help google either.

Ya What I love the Google vs Microsoft wars is that Google completely reinvents the wheel in a more pratical sensible way, EVERY time. Microsoft, is just a lost child at this point following what ever is in front of it. Have you seen the microsoft earth? Come on. Completely ripped off Google.

Microsoft is sad, they should stick to what they do best, and that's suck.

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Microsoft is better than you at everything. Besides the fact that Apple overprices everything, but that's another story unrelated to this topic.

There's a reason why Microsoft dominates the Office market, they make a damn good product. Sure, I think it could do with a major price slash, but the companies who buy the software can afford it.

Just because something has a Google brand on it doesn't mean that it's going to be equal or better than Office. I wonder if it will ever get out of the betas stage?

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