Google formally declares war on Microsoft

[sundayx Veteran]

i would love google to join the competition, as competition is good for end users.

however if google domination starts to emerge, such as microsoft now is, i will have to start and hate google. they are good.

[viciv]

open office suite's not as good as Microsoft office...

[nicedreams]

I sure do hope Google takes Linux Desktop to a new level. SUSE v10 is good, but I want to see what Google can do. I've heard the rumors of them toying with their own Linux.

[Long]

Microsoft innovates quietly. It commits billions and billions of dollars into research and scientific studies which frankly, never gets credited by the industry, or never makes it in to a product. But however, its results and findings are available to anyone in the public.

For a more practical example, their MSN search is a lot more powerful to use than Google. Just try this http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?FORM=MS..._type=0&qb=1&q=

[Alexandrea Fride]

For a more practical example, their MSN search is a lot more powerful to use than Google. Just try this http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?FORM=MS..._type=0&qb=1&q=

586635710[/snapback]

your worng sorry

try this http://www.google.be/advanced_search

Or these can u use for more advanced search

" " yeah ms to

intitle:search in tiles

intext:search in words

inurl:search in urls

filetype:search for specific file type

info:www.neowin.net gives you info on a domain

related:www.neowin.net

define:word defines a word

phonebook:search in phonebooks

allintitle:?index of??somting? wil give you site opendir sites of somting ...

and way more if you comine that then you can alomost find everything

and you say that ms is powerfol then goog:)? ... :)

[seta-san]

ya. for the average user Office97 has everything but every version since has been focusing more and more on the corporate side of things which are kinda exciting if you know alot of the features that can be running in the background, unfortunely all these new features often lead to new file formats dragging everyone else for more rounds of buying software.

While Office as early as office 97 may have all the features that are needed. Isn't it how the UI has been designed that makes Office 12 so useful? The features have been there, and now Office 12 makes it easier to use the tools to the maximum. I read that's the key that makes Office 12 "wow".

586635468[/snapback]

[futb0l]

I hope it runs really good on Linux :D

[Von_Beard]

:woot: woot woot

should be good

[Hitman2000]

MS relies heavily on large business too buy Office xxxx products. I dont think large corporation will move away from MS.

Dont see whats to get excited about people only like google because its google just the way people like Ipod and nike. There nothing special about them ther just made popular cause alot of people just follow their friends.

Anyways google is jut rebadging the Sun open office.

[gaurav]

a couple of more deals like these and Microsoft will be outta business.

at least its software prices will be a fraction of the present.

[ZZOOzzoo]

Eh, I'd rather pay for the MS Office than make my working environment miserable by using a much inferior software like OpenOffice.

The reason why Google's products are so good is because they purchase already-good products and distribute it with Google name slapped on! (with the exception of the search engine) Picasa, Keyhole (now known as Google Earth), Bloggers, etc., were already polished and established products before Google purchased them, and now look at who gets the credit.

I'll stay with MS Office on both PC and Mac, thanks.

[Ryan Hoffman]

If Google's office product is anything like Google's IM client, Microsoft will have nothing to worry about.

'nuff said. :ninja:

[Proforma]

I like Google, but don't necessarily trust them.

It is nice, however, for people to have a choice in who they trust or not.  Better than a Microsoft monopoly. ;)

586632552[/snapback]

Mark, there has always been choices. No matter if its IBMDOS, GEOS, OS/2, MAC, BSD, Linux and of course Open Office, Star Office. That is what is so sad. Consumers and businesses have made their choice in what they want to buy.

You wouldn't think just because Sony has the Playstation market and they own the video game market because the consumers have made their choice of what they want to buy. This does not mean that there is no choice in the video game market other than Sony. We know that there is Microsoft and Nintendo.

There have always been choices. ALWAYS! You don't even have to buy a computer with an OS installed if you don't want.

[FlibbyFlobby]

Unless the interface and features match up to the upcoming Office 12 then I really dont see any wars brewing soon. If, like all the other Office alternatives, they copy the current Office interface, instead of following Office 12's new format, why would someone (read: businesses) use their product?

[Matrix XII]

Wow, Google is really getting to be a huuuge company now, and taking on MS!! They are bold, hopefully we'll see some great innovation :)

[jak0bk]

Wow, Google is really getting to be a huuuge company now, and taking on MS!! They are bold, hopefully we'll see some great innovation :)

586636294[/snapback]

Oh wow, Google is releasing a bunch of stupid little programs and they're getting huge? You do realize that Microsoft spans 6 continents (check out http://www.microsoft.com/worldwide/phone/c...Ocean%20Islands ... I don't even know where that is besides the Indian Ocean), they have around $40,000,000,000 of revenue a year, is currently worth $264,858,300,000 (as of close of the NYSE today, based on current share price at 24.73 and 10.71 billion shares out), and employs over 60,000 people.

Those are big numbers. Check this out for more: http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/inside_ms.mspx.

[Jexel]

Oh wow, Google is releasing a bunch of stupid little programs and they're getting huge? You do realize that Microsoft spans 6 continents (check out http://www.microsoft.com/worldwide/phone/c...Ocean%20Islands ... I don't even know where that is besides the Indian Ocean), they have around $40,000,000,000 of revenue a year, is currently worth $264,858,300,000 (as of close of the NYSE today, based on current share price at 24.73 and 10.71 billion shares out), and employs over 60,000 people.

Those are big numbers. Check this out for more: http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/inside_ms.mspx.

586636380[/snapback]

I'm not extremely enthused regarding google's software but MS should take google more seriously. Business is war and ms should not underestimate its enemies.

The biggest question I have for ms is why they added so much ads in msn messenger, considering the fact that they generate so much revenue.

[Smigit]

I'm not extremely enthused regarding google's software but MS should take google more seriously. Business is war and ms should not underestimate its enemies.

586636495[/snapback]

I think they are taking Google VERY seriously. They recent rereleased their search engine and are spending alot of money in that field along with desktop search and the upcomming new release of hotmail. That and their global map app, even if it's somewhat lacking.

Even if they don't publically declare a war I'm very sure they are well aware of the threat. Half the reason they had that issue about the MS employee a few weeks back that defered to Google.

[Jexel]

I think they are taking Google VERY seriously. They recent rereleased their search engine and are spending alot of money in that field along with desktop search and the upcomming new release of hotmail. That and their global map app, even if it's somewhat lacking.

Even if they don't publically declare a war I'm very sure they are well aware of the threat. Half the reason they had that issue about the MS employee a few weeks back that defered to Google.

586636553[/snapback]

well said. But whoever wins this war, they're going to stay in power for a long time, waiting for another challenger.

[+mrbester MVC]

For all those who are going "I prefer Office 2K(2|3)? to OpenOffice", consider the new purchaser of a PC who doesn't have either of them. On the one hand you have the so-full-of-features-it's-like-Photoshop-in-that-you'll-never-use-them-all offering from Microsoft that costs three arms and a torso, or there's the free OO.o, both of which benefit from being supplied on CDROM. Now here comes Google with the idea of not having to do all that tedious installing rubbish, but run it through a toolbar in a browser. Go to Google, download and install toolbar, possibly restart browser, done. Where's the beef? Good luck to them. They'll need it as their bandwidth usage goes galactic.

Oh, and the reasons that so many people upgrade to later version of Office is because the support for their version is discontinued and they can't open someone else's documents. Duh. :rolleyes:

[Smigit]

I think it applies less to purchasers of new machines and more to ones of old hardware who dont want a new machine. The cost of an OEM copy of Office is quite low, its the retail where you get hit. Infact its quite easy to get office cheap, not everyone can but I got it for about 25% of the price being a student (2003 enterprise ed), others do via work for their work laptop and then theres OEM. I agree, it's generally overpriced but sometimes you can get it at a very good price and some places may sell it oem with a mouse or something...I duno (and no casual users would either).

As for upgrading I dont think casual users even check for updates to office really so I doubt thats much incentive to update. I mean if theres no problems they wont go looking for "fixes" and if they at some point dished out a load of cash to buy it that might compell them not to just change.

my thoughts anyway

[Ryan V]

For all those who are going "I prefer Office 2K(2|3)? to OpenOffice", consider the new purchaser of a PC who doesn't have either of them. On the one hand you have the so-full-of-features-it's-like-Photoshop-in-that-you'll-never-use-them-all offering from Microsoft that costs three arms and a torso, or there's the free OO.o, both of which benefit from being supplied on CDROM. Now here comes Google with the idea of not having to do all that tedious installing rubbish, but run it through a toolbar in a browser. Go to Google, download and install toolbar, possibly restart browser, done. Where's the beef? Good luck to them. They'll need it as their bandwidth usage goes galactic.

Oh, and the reasons that so many people upgrade to later version of Office is because the support for their version is discontinued and they can't open someone else's documents. Duh. :rolleyes:

586636680[/snapback]

Well to be fair, most new computers these days come with an office suite already preinstalled whether it be Corel WordPerfect Office, Microsoft Works or even Microsoft Office Basic (Which Dell offers). Any of those programs are more than enough for the average user.

Even then, users still have other choices. Microsoft Office Basic Edition and Microsoft Office Student & Teacher Edition which isn't that expensive either.

[theavidgeek]

Well to be fair, most new computers these days come with an office suite already preinstalled whether it be Corel WordPerfect Office, Microsoft Works or even Microsoft Office Basic (Which Dell offers). Any of those programs are more than enough for the average user.

Even then, users still have other choices. Microsoft Office Basic Edition and Microsoft Office Student & Teacher Edition which isn't that expensive either.

586637882[/snapback]

:yes:

[Banzai]

so what are we talking about here, word processing program that works in a web browser, or a standalone program that work with ads, is so does this mean you always have to be connected to the internet.

Sure i dont like paying to use Word Etc, but im not so sure this idea will take off. But I hope im wrong.

[cropcircles]

Still waiting for the infamous Google Operating System. How about a beta. As far as any Office products, the more competition MS has the better. The way Office 12 looks so far from the clips from PDC 05" I don't think MS will need to worry about any competition.