PS3 May not be fully backwards compatible...

[Jeremy1]

how do you think the ps3 is going to run the older games?

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Sony Magic. Only crappy consoles like the 360 use emulation. Stupid piece of crap 360.

[nav1]

It's a bigger deal for the PS3 since they have been "yelling" about backwards compatability?  Didn't XBox360 also "scream at the top of their lungs" that they would have backwards compatablility.  I think it's a bigger deal for the XBox360 since they "screamed at the top of their lungs" whereas Sony has only been "yelling". :p

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I have been following all 3 consoles very close, and I don't remember MS ever yelling it. If I recall correctly, they have stated from the beginning it will support the top games. Sony is the one that has been yelling out all its features from the beginning

You're all right, this isn't really that big an issue, and PS3 will probably still lead the market in the next gen. But what really bothers me is that stuff like this happens from time to time with Sony, proving that they're not a reliable company. They just like to create a huge hype, trash the competition, promise a lot of stuff, and then little by little taking stuff away, and when reality hits, it's not so big a thing as they promised (they should consider a career in politics). And the sad part is that people don't realise it, but instead ignore it, as "ooh, it's Sony, it makes you cool, I don't care if they trash this or that, even though they promised".

Anyway, that's my opinion, I just wishpeople would open their eyes a little. The PS3 will still be a very good console, and prolly get many good games, but if people would start to complain when they pull off stuff like his, they (Sony) would prolly try and do a better job to please the market and make their console better.

[mufdvr3669]

MS hasnt been "screamed at the top of their lungs" that they'd have full compatability, they've been saying the top selling games, and then from there the games that sold less etc etc.

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Ummm, if you would notice I was mocking the previous poster and his use of the word yelling.

Edited October 27, 2005 by mufdvr3669

[Hitman2000]

I have been following all 3 consoles very close, and I don't remember MS ever yelling it. If I recall correctly, they have stated from the beginning it will support  the top games. Sony is the one that has been yelling out all its features from the beginning

You're all right, this isn't really that big an issue, and PS3 will probably still lead the market in the next gen. But what really bothers me is that stuff like this happens from time to time with Sony, proving that they're not a reliable company. They just like to create a huge hype, trash the competition, promise a lot of stuff, and then little by little taking stuff away, and when reality hits, it's not so big a thing as they promised (they should consider a career in politics). And the sad part is that people don't realise it, but instead ignore it, as "ooh, it's Sony, it makes you cool, I don't care if they trash this or that, even though they promised".

Anyway, that's my opinion, I just wishpeople would open their eyes a little. The PS3 will still be a very good console, and prolly get many good games, but if people would start to complain when they pull off stuff like his, they (Sony) would prolly try and do a better job to please the market and make their console better.

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I agree, you summed up my thoughts pretty much, except I think Xbox360 will be the new console king

[nav1]

I agree, you summed up my thoughts pretty much, except I think Xbox360 will be the new console king

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Maybe, but it's going to be hard. Xbox doesn't have as many exclusives, which in my opinion is what makes you decide on a console, but then again, all PS exclusives come from third parties, so, if MS pays ...

[Brandon Live Veteran]

Personally, I think what you're seeing is a response to the different philosophies of these two companies.

Microsoft aims to underpromise and overdeliver.

Sony aims to make as much hype as possible as early as possible and what they actually ship is a secondary concern.

[yankee lion]

Thing is, out of the 1000 XBOX games(according to GS) there are, 360 will only support the top 100 of them.

Now let's see. PS2 has 1900 games. And... PS1 has 1800 games. So out of 3700 Sony's PS2 doesn't support about 50 of them. In other words the PS2 supports about 98.6% of the games on Playstation 1 and 2. While the 360 has 10%. Now let's say, the PS3 doesn't support 200 games additional games. That'll be 93% of all the games on PS1, and PS2.

That's pretty damn good if you ask me, better effort that Microsoft is making anyways.

[Xabora]

Sony Magic.  Only crappy consoles like the 360 use emulation.  Stupid piece of crap 360.

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Hmm... do you even know the advanges of emulation?

Higher Resolutions.

Higher Frame Rates.

Crisper Textures.

If you have any experience with this stuff you will know.

[Brandon Live Veteran]

Thing is, out of the 1000 XBOX games(according to GS) there are, 360 will only support the top 100 of them.

Now let's see. PS2 has 1900 games. And... PS1 has 1800 games. So out of 3700 Sony's PS2 doesn't support about 50 of them. In other words the PS2 supports about 98.6% of the games on Playstation 1 and 2.  While the 360 has 10%. Now let's say, the PS3 doesn't support 200 games additional games. That'll be 93% of all the games on PS1, and PS2.

That's pretty damn good if you ask me, better effort that Microsoft is making anyways.

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Umm... where did they ever say the X360 would only support 100 Xbox games? Oh wait, they didn't, and you just made that up.

[Xabora]

They said that adding support for games is done by demand.

[Shetland]

i dont care tbh, gamers always say "oh i want backwards compatability" but after 3 months or so nobody plays the older games anyway (other than people who took those games majorly seriously) and for those classic games but thats it really.

its not that important.

[yawza]

Umm... where did they ever say the X360 would only support 100 Xbox games?  Oh wait, they didn't, and you just made that up.

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well microsoft did say, EXCLUSIVE xbox games, so that would be.... Halo and Halo 2, YEY!!!! im so looking forward towards this system....

Gears of War is gonna be crayzeh!

[yankee lion]

Umm... where did they ever say the X360 would only support 100 Xbox games?  Oh wait, they didn't, and you just made that up.

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I could have swore someone said Microsoft would support only the top selling 100 games. o.o;

And: http://www.joystiq.com/entry/1234000607062969/

I guess we'll know next week what the number really is. Highly doubt it's more than 50% though.

[Qumahlin]

I could have swore someone said Microsoft would support only the top selling 100 games. o.o;

And: http://www.joystiq.com/entry/1234000607062969/

I guess we'll know next week what the number really is. Highly doubt it's more than 50% though.

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Yes, that was mentioned, but they didn't say "we are only support the top 100 titles" they said "it will support atleast the top 100 titles"

Meaning on release day the top 100 titles should work fine, not that no game except for the top 100 would work

[riahc3]

if sony made something called sony sh*t then i bet people would still buy it only coz it wud have a sony logo on it. People will still buy the PS3 regardless of what it is capeble of. Maybe coz they want it to go with thier HD Sony TV and surround sound system. or maybe becoz its a sony product.....

:rolleyes:

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That is the sad damn truth :(

I need to wake up?  You are the one who thinks backwards compatability is a nail in a console's coffin for a few games.

Yes and developers were unhappy with the developing for the PS2 yet they still made games and it has the largest game library.  Developers are going to develop for the console with the largest fanbase or whatever company will pay them for exclusives no matter how difficult it is to program.  It is all about money for game developers, they could care less about the difficulty of programming for a console no matter how much they complain about it.

Did it ever come across your mind that people may like games that come out on the PS2 and that is why they bought it?

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THERES THE PROBLEM; Sony (as a company) is suffering economically. Thats another reasons experts are saying that Sony wont be able to deliver at 100% their super console.

Will the PS3 actually do anything to improve the graphics in PS1/2 Games. I know the PS2 did a crappy job of cleaning up PS1 games...

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Games are written for a certain hardward. You just cant magically improve them

and how do you think the ps3 is going to run the older games? Emulation of the ps2's hardware.

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Accually PS2 had PS1 elements in it to "emulate" hardware wise PS1 games...

Thing is, out of the 1000 XBOX games(according to GS) there are, 360 will only support the top 100 of them.

Now let's see. PS2 has 1900 games. And... PS1 has 1800 games. So out of 3700 Sony's PS2 doesn't support about 50 of them. In other words the PS2 supports about 98.6% of the games on Playstation 1 and 2.  While the 360 has 10%. Now let's say, the PS3 doesn't support 200 games additional games. That'll be 93% of all the games on PS1, and PS2.

That's pretty damn good if you ask me, better effort that Microsoft is making anyways.

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I honestly dont belive that Xbox has 1000 games and the PS2 has 1900....There is something wrong with those numbers.

[Mateus-ES]

and how do you think the ps3 is going to run the older games? Emulation of the ps2's hardware.

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No. The same of the PS2: embeded hardware to control I/O (PS1 processor).

Sony don't need emulation, because is excelence in hardware.

[Ryne]

if sony made something called sony sh*t then i bet people would still buy it only coz it wud have a sony logo on it. People will still buy the PS3 regardless of what it is capeble of. Maybe coz they want it to go with thier HD Sony TV and surround sound system. or maybe becoz its a sony product.....

:rolleyes:

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Maybe people are buying the system because it has good games on it. If I like the games that they are providing, why does it matter if I can't play the 50 or so previous system games? I already own a 360 (and waiting for it to come here), and I plan on getting the other systems. Just because people buy the system does not make them as dense as you are.

[mufdvr3669]

have you been asleep in the last few days or summit. seriously wake up.

Sony is recieving negative publicity recently becase certain developers are un-happy etc etc and now this. maybe if your read other threads in the forum you would know. Also who said that people wont buy it?

if sony made something called sony sh*t then i bet people would still buy it only coz it wud have a sony logo on it. People will still buy the PS3 regardless of what it is capeble of. Maybe coz they want it to go with thier HD Sony TV and surround sound system. or maybe becoz its a sony product.....

:rolleyes:

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If MS made something called MS poop then i bet people would still buy it only coz it wud have a MS logo on it. People will still buy the XBox360 regardless of what it is capeble of. Maybe coz they want it to go with thier MS Computer and media center. or maybe becoz its a MS product.....

I never knew making stupid fanboy posts was so easy. :woot:

[Noveed]

Maybe people are buying the system because it has good games on it. If I like the games that they are providing, why does it matter if I can't play the 50 or so previous system games?

maybe people do buy them for the games... maybe? but there are quite a few cross playform games these days do i wouldnt be 100% sure on that statement. Sometimes certain exclusives do clinch it like FF series for the PS and Halo for the xbox....

I already own a 360 (and waiting for it to come here), and I plan on getting the other systems. Just because people buy the system does not make them as dense as you are.

ohh please spare me your crap, i currently own a PS1, PSP, sold my ps2 for my xbox, i have pre-ordered an xbox360 and im waiting on more info on the rev and PS3 as i am thinking of purchasing them when more info is availible and playable content is released for them.

Dense? i think not i do like to keep my options open and i hopefully will have all 3 major consoles next year or the year after.

Any queries take a look at my sig

:rolleyes:

[Ryne]

hmm another nail in the coffin for sony?

have you been asleep in the last few days or summit. seriously wake up.

Sony is recieving negative publicity recently becase certain developers are un-happy etc etc and now this. maybe if your read other threads in the forum you would know. Also who said that people wont buy it?if sony made something called sony sh*t then i bet people would still buy it only coz it wud have a sony logo on it. People will still buy the PS3 regardless of what it is capeble of. Maybe coz they want it to go with thier HD Sony TV and surround sound system. or maybe becoz its a sony product.....

:rolleyes:

I know Sony has been shouting about it, but not having full backward compatibility will neither kill Sony's PS3, nor will kill the X360. For a person who says they are open-minded about the new systems, you certainly do a lot of PS3 bashing.

Edited October 27, 2005 by Hova

[Noveed]

If MS made something called MS poop then i bet people would still buy it only coz it wud have a MS logo on it. People will still buy the XBox360 regardless of what it is capeble of. Maybe coz they want it to go with thier MS Computer and media center. or maybe becoz its a MS product.....

I never knew making stupid fanboy posts was so easy. :woot:

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very original. you deserve a medal. But i think you are missing the point and you have no decent come back apart from just rewording what i wrote.

M$ is not as diverse as sony is. M$ makes windows and MCE and other stuff like Xbox.

Sony on the other hand makes almost every single electronic item, including PC's (sony viaos) which ironically have windows on them. So whose ya daddy.

:laugh:

I know Sony has been shouting about it, but not having full backward compatibility will neither kill Sony's PS3, nor will kill the X360. For a person who says they are open-minded about the new systems, you certainly do a lot of PS3 bashing.

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Sorry mate if i put my self accross in that way, as for the PS3 bashing, well its just counter attacking the overhype created by sony. I have nothing against sony apart from that they over promise and under deliver.

[mufdvr3669]

very original. you deserve a medal. But i think you are missing the point and you have no decent come back apart from just rewording what i wrote.

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Point. You had a point to your first post??? Did you ever think people bought a console cause they like the games??? Not because it was a certain brand and they had to be #1 fanboy to deal with some kind of e-penis inferiority complex. Maybe you was missing the point to my reply in how easy it is to come up with some overly exaggerated fanboy garbage.

Edited October 27, 2005 by mufdvr3669

[Brandon Live Veteran]

well microsoft did say, EXCLUSIVE xbox games, so that would be.... Halo and Halo 2, YEY!!!! im so looking forward towards this system....

Gears of War is gonna be crayzeh!

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They never said it would only be exclusive games.

They said the top-selling games. And they said that support for additional Xbox 1 games will be provided over time.

There should be a list pretty soon, and I'm expecting it to be pretty extensive.

[Noveed]

Point.  You had a point to your first post???  Did you ever think people bought a console cause they like the games???  Not because it was a certain brand and they had to be #1 fanboy to deal with some kind of e-penis inferiority complex.  Maybe you was missing the point to my reply in how easy it is to come up with some overly exaggerated fanboy garbage.

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i think the console comes first then the games. NO console = no games. its as simple as that. Before any games are announced i think the console gets announced first, correct me if im wrong. So obviously people will buy a console on what it is capeble of and not only its games. And just for the record i did not say games are not a factor when peoiple purchase consoles, where you have got that idea from i dont know but clearly you seem to be delusional