MadFerIt Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 Was wondering what people's thoguths are on this monitor? It's the official Xbox360 Kiosk display tv. It also has a built-in DVI connector that would be perfect for replacing my PC Monitor ^_^. How's the quality/clarity though? 3000:1 contrast seems amazing not to mention all the other features this tv has. It's expensive but.. I really want a great tv to replace my PC monitor and be of course my new xbox360 display. I'm getting the premium xbox360 so it comes with component cables, should be good enough right? Or should I persue getting a set of Monster cables? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangbang023 Veteran Posted November 13, 2005 Veteran Share Posted November 13, 2005 It has HDMI, not DVI. The hardware itself gives you 1000:1 contrast and then the DNIe software will fill in the rest when you turn it on. It's a great set and definitely worth the money. As for the cables, as someone who goes against the naysayers and usually recommends Monster cables, I'd say stick with the OEM ones since I doubt Monster would have any out for the 360 on launch day anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadFerIt Posted November 13, 2005 Author Share Posted November 13, 2005 It has HDMI, not DVI. The hardware itself gives you 1000:1 contrast and then the DNIe software will fill in the rest when you turn it on. It's a great set and definitely worth the money. As for the cables, as someone who goes against the naysayers and usually recommends Monster cables, I'd say stick with the OEM ones since I doubt Monster would have any out for the 360 on launch day anyway. 586802360[/snapback] Oh ok. Well actually monster is the official thirdparty cable provider this time around, and you can already order off the net the cables (they say nov.22nd release). And you might be right about the DVI thing.. But the official site says it has HDMI, Component, Composite, S-video, DVI.. Glad to know it's worth the money though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangbang023 Veteran Posted November 13, 2005 Veteran Share Posted November 13, 2005 Oh, ok. I'd still stick with the OEM's until you decide you want to splurge more for the Monster stuff. As for the set, it does not have DVI. I know this for a fact. They are probably eluding to the fact you can get a DVI -> HDMI converter and use that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangbang023 Veteran Posted November 13, 2005 Veteran Share Posted November 13, 2005 It has a VGA input. Use that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangbang023 Veteran Posted November 13, 2005 Veteran Share Posted November 13, 2005 Ohhh it says it has PC Input D-sub 15 pin (VGA~WXGA) That would be a normal VGA correct? What would be better, DVI > HDMI convertor or using Analog VGA? 586802427[/snapback] Lol, we posted at the same time. It's better to use the VGA. You can't get full resolution from a PC using the hdmi->dvi connector. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadFerIt Posted November 13, 2005 Author Share Posted November 13, 2005 Oh, ok. I'd still stick with the OEM's until you decide you want to splurge more for the Monster stuff.As for the set, it does not have DVI. I know this for a fact. They are probably eluding to the fact you can get a DVI -> HDMI converter and use that. 586802407[/snapback] Ohh ok. Does that work well? Or no? I mean I'm hoping to possibly replace my PC monitor with this thing as well as use it for other purposes. Just hoping it doesn't result in blurry text or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadFerIt Posted November 13, 2005 Author Share Posted November 13, 2005 Ohhh it says it has PC Input D-sub 15 pin (VGA~WXGA) That would be a normal VGA correct? What would be better, DVI > HDMI convertor or using Analog VGA? *EDIT* lol posted this at the same time as you. So I'm guessing that means you think VGA would work better. Alrighty :). Have any idea how good the quality is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadFerIt Posted November 13, 2005 Author Share Posted November 13, 2005 Lol, we posted at the same time. It's better to use the VGA. You can't get full resolution from a PC using the hdmi->dvi connector. 586802430[/snapback] Haha great! Lol we actually posted at the same time twice, only it was an edit for me :p. Appreciate the help! :D. Looks like a great tv, just hope the xbox360 comes on time (I'm buying it from an unconventional place, an online store for mostly PC equipment.. But they are always reliable for anything PC related so hopefully works out.. Waited too bloody long so the normal game/electronic retailers were out of the question). If you don't mind one final question, what do you prefer? 720p or 1080i? I'm so bloody new to HDTV haha. I do know what progressive/interlacing is, but when you're so used to using PC monitors and simply resolutions it gets a bit confusing. Does the sacrafice of progressive justify the increased resolution? In games/ect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IK47 Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 bangbang023, I was under the impression that using a dvi>hdmi convertor had no quality / data loss since they are both digital connections. Is this true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangbang023 Veteran Posted November 13, 2005 Veteran Share Posted November 13, 2005 Haha great! Lol we actually posted at the same time twice, only it was an edit for me :p.Appreciate the help! :D. Looks like a great tv, just hope the xbox360 comes on time (I'm buying it from an unconventional place, an online store for mostly PC equipment.. But they are always reliable for anything PC related so hopefully works out.. Waited too bloody long so the normal game/electronic retailers were out of the question). If you don't mind one final question, what do you prefer? 720p or 1080i? I'm so bloody new to HDTV haha. I do know what progressive/interlacing is, but when you're so used to using PC monitors and simply resolutions it gets a bit confusing. Does the sacrafice of progressive justify the increased resolution? In games/ect? 586802439[/snapback] It really depends. I'm a sports/action movie guy so 720p makes more sense since it handles fast paced action better. bangbang023, I was under the impression that using a dvi>hdmi convertor had no quality / data loss since they are both digital connections.Is this true? 586802451[/snapback] There shouldn't be any quality loss. However, the Samsungs are specifically designed to only give full PC full resolution over the VGA input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadFerIt Posted November 13, 2005 Author Share Posted November 13, 2005 It really depends. I'm a sports/action movie guy so 720p makes more sense since it handles fast paced action better.There shouldn't be any quality loss. However, the Samsungs are specifically designed to only give full PC full resolution over the VGA input. 586802577[/snapback] Good to know. Well I'll try straight VGA and see how it is. I'll probally need to pick up some high quality VGA cables just incase though, maybe from Monster. If it doesn't suit me and I decide to go the route of HDMI > DVI what brand of coverter offers the best quality? Thanks for all the info btw ^_^. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangbang023 Veteran Posted November 13, 2005 Veteran Share Posted November 13, 2005 Trust me, you don't want to go dvi for your PC. When I say it doesn't go full res, I mean, literally, the image doesn't fill the whole screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadFerIt Posted November 13, 2005 Author Share Posted November 13, 2005 Trust me, you don't want to go dvi for your PC. When I say it doesn't go full res, I mean, literally, the image doesn't fill the whole screen. 586802859[/snapback] ECK.. Didn't realize you mean't that lol. Yeah me thinks VGA will be better lol. But you can make adjustments to the DVI (especially with higher-end video cards). I mean unless it's just a complete screwup within the Samsung. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangbang023 Veteran Posted November 13, 2005 Veteran Share Posted November 13, 2005 ECK.. Didn't realize you mean't that lol.Yeah me thinks VGA will be better lol. But you can make adjustments to the DVI (especially with higher-end video cards). I mean unless it's just a complete screwup within the Samsung. 586802895[/snapback] You can ask StevoFC who had first hand experience setting it up, it's simply best to use the VGA and it gives a very good picture doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamend Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 Have you considered the 2405FPW or others like it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ANTI+ Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 Have you considered the 2405FPW or others like it? 586803291[/snapback] I second that. 2405 is bigger, higher rev and cheaper I have 1 :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAIHMB Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 It's not cheaper: Samsung LN-R238W 23 in Flat Screen LCD TV = $679 Dell UltraSharp 2405FPW 24 in LCD Monitor = $930 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadFerIt Posted November 13, 2005 Author Share Posted November 13, 2005 It's not cheaper:Samsung LN-R238W 23 in Flat Screen LCD TV = $679 Dell UltraSharp 2405FPW 24 in LCD Monitor = $930 586804188[/snapback] What the.. Where did you get that price for the R238W?? I havn't seen it that cheap anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOOPAH256 Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 yeah, i found the same price. i always use one of those websites that scour different online stores for the lowest prices. it's usually pretty good at finding it. anyway, here's what cnet came up with: $693 as for the monitor, i just picked myself up a LG 26lx1d last week, for nearly the same reason. i'm glad i read up on the HDMI info, before deciding to use it as my main monitor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ANTI+ Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 It's not cheaper:Samsung LN-R238W 23 in Flat Screen LCD TV = $679 Dell UltraSharp 2405FPW 24 in LCD Monitor = $930 586804188[/snapback] didn't know u can get it that cheap but u still have to pay for shipping, right? and u know, u can always lower the dell's price with some coupon/s they also don't charge u(shipping) if u want to exchange within the first 30days(sth like that) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam.sproul Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 I'm looking to buy a LNR238W even though I live in the UK. Would it being NTSC have any effect on other peripherals such as DVD players, UK XBox 360 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangbang023 Veteran Posted November 14, 2005 Veteran Share Posted November 14, 2005 I'm looking to buy a LNR238W even though I live in the UK. Would it being NTSC have any effect on other peripherals such as DVD players, UK XBox 360 ? 586810483[/snapback] There should be a UK equivalent with a slightly different model number. LA or something like that. As for the LNR238W, it being NTSC shouldn't matter as long as you don't run through the coaxial (tuner). I just got home from work and I'm fried, but that sounds right to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam.sproul Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 Thank you for your help. I'll have a look for LA models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam.sproul Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 I think I have just found an equivilant model the Samsung LE23R41B. http://www.samsung.com/uk/products/televis...e23r41bxxeu.asp If anybody could look this over, any advice, I'd be grateful. TIA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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