Democrats or Republicans?

[runningking7]

Choose the one that best fits you!

Also, I was a Democrat before, but I became a Republican, and now I am completely lost. What do you guys think?

My idea:

Republicans accentuate on national security, funding national debt, and *Power* After watching Fahrenheit 9/11, I turned neutral. Plus, Republican presidents like the notorious Nixon, the two before FDR, George H Bush, and Ronald Reagan (O.K.) had been fairly unsuccessful, with the exception of Abraham Lincoln.

Democrats are too liberal and have a self-righteous attitude that is unacceptable. As of late, the Democratic Party has been imploding due to a lack of leadership. Back in the old days, FDR, JFK, and Clinton were all outstanding leaders. In other words, all of US' greatest presidents had been Democrats.

As of this moment, I am still a conservative, but am a little ashamed of what the Republicans' recent accomplishment.

[runningking7]

Mod, please move this to "General Discussion"

[JK1150]

I am a conservative Republican. I am not happy with the spending policies of this administration, but I think the deficit reduction act was a step in the right direction. I also don't like the lack of conservative action in government, but I think the nomination of Alito is also a step in the right direction. I am happy with the tax cuts, and the stopping of liberals nuts who want "under God" out of the pledge and other people like that.

[RootWind]

I'm a supporter of reason. So... basically no party.

[runningking7]

You are right, in some ways. However, I do believe that tax should be much higher because the US owes a couple of trillion Dollars now.....

Bush's environmental policies are also fairly disappointing.

[DeusProto]

I am a member of the AMERICAN PARTY also known as the Republican party! The party of patriots the party of common sense. Most importantly, the party of our LORD and savior.

The traitor and coward party, the democrats, need to do the honorable thing and disband. Democrats will NEVER win ANY election ever again because America sees that the Republican party is the one TRUE American party.

Do your patriotic duty and vote Republican down the line in 2006 and 2008!

[JK1150]

You are right, in some ways. However, I do believe that tax should be much higher because the US owes a couple of trillion Dollars now.....

Bush's environmental policies are also fairly disappointing.

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No, we just need to cut spending. Some of the things we are spending money are ridiculous. As for his environmental policies. I support them, when a company gets fined for dumping in a lack 85 years ago, people lose jobs. The government should work to help companies solve environmental problems, not fine them out of thier future. Remember, we have to face the cold reality that when a company loses money, they would much rather lay off workers than decrease corporate perks. There is still accountability.

[vincent]

the party of our LORD and savior.

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Let's not go there, shall we?

[Jaded]

My idea:

You shouldnt define yourself by a party, but rather by your beliefs and morals. So one year you may favour the republician side and the next the democrats. Because when it comes down to it, you dont have to justify your beliefs my aligning yourself with a party. This also avoids all the feeling of obligation that one may feel when voting. So instead of voting for the party that you call yourself, you are voting for the one who you will think will be the best for the job and agree with the most.

Also as a 'more liberal/leftist' I found Michael Moor's Fahrenheit 9/11 a load of twisted c*** put together in a way only he can do. He totally ignored what you are supposed to do in a documentary, take a neutral side, and made it into a 1 1/2 hr bash fest against Bush. Now while I dont agree with most of Bush's policies, I did find that the movie was unfair and pretty one sided.

[icecaveman]

That's a good example why I would never vote for republicans if I was an American EVER :wacko:

Although too much taxes are bad, it's crazy to lower your taxes even more unless you are going to gain some SERIOUS money from Iraq soon.

BTW don't take Michael Moore so seriously :rofl: he's a comedian for crying out loud!

[DeusProto]

tax should be much higher

There should be a flat income tax regardless of income. No more of this pay higher percent because you earn more crap that the leftists installed over the years. Success should not be punished.

[sukamusiru]

I guess "Neither" is the "moderate" option.

[Compuspital]

I am a Demopublican Thats the way to be... lol

[kak]

Republican. I don't fall into the very religious sect though I do feel there should be some discretion there. I don't agree whole heartedly with everything that any republican agenda does, but I find myself agreeing with them more than I do their counterparts. I'm very much into conservative fiscal policies as well.

BTW RunningKing7, don't let Fahrenheit 9/11 sway any of your beliefs. The movie discredits the word 'documentary' and should be considered mere opinion. Its all based on half truths that were stretched out, retold, and touched up with incredible bias. Everything in that movie can be proved wrong.

RFire - Voting republican down the line is just foolish. Take some political classes to see how the government needs to have stability and opposing views to create compromises and ensure everyone's rights are protected.

[+Troll Subscriber¹]

Republican - Although party name doesn't define who a person is. I agree with many Democrats, and disagree with many Republicans. Regardless of which side you tend to agree with more, look at what the issues are and then decide.

For example, Abortion, Tax Cuts, The Iraq War, Enviornmental Policies.

Just saying you hate Bush or hate Democrats makes you look like a fool and doesn't even warrant a response 99% of the time because you appear to have no opinion of you own and simply follow whatever ideals you are told.

Back during the '04 Election, many of my friends asked me about the political issues because I would tell them from an unbiased standpoint. They know where I stand, but at the same time were free to choose for themself which option they prefer without my slanted viewpoint.

I'm actually surprised to see more Republicans than Democrats on this thread so far, although I'm sure that will change soon - the internet contains far more individuals on the left, being one who likes Democrats or just hates Bush.

To comment on icecaveman's response: Its actually not crazy. With all of the tax cuts we've had, we've actually collected MORE tax revenue. The reason is because those who get a tax break (not just the high rich, janitors I know got a tax rebate) spend their excess money on goods and services. Capitalism at its finest folks...

[xp1ode]

neither, gov't just like religion is pointless, imo of course...

[CloudEngineer]

There should be a flat income tax regardless of income. No more of this pay higher percent because you earn more crap that the leftists installed over the years. Success should not be punished.

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haha, make more money but pay the same taxes as the lower income family's? hahaha

good one!

NOT!

[+Troll Subscriber¹]

There should be a flat income tax regardless of income. No more of this pay higher percent because you earn more crap that the leftists installed over the years. Success should not be punished.

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Totally agree. Everyone should pay the same percentage then there can be no complaints. Everyone is treated as an equal. The guy who makes $6.50 an hour gets taxed 10% lets say and therefore is really making $5.85 an hour. But the guy who is making $40.00 and hour is really making $36.00 an hour. Same percentage, but the wealthier person pays a bit more because they make more. If someone can argue how percentages are unfair, I'd like to see it...

[runningking7]

My idea:

You shouldnt define yourself by a party, but rather by your beliefs and morals. So one year you may favour the republician side and the next the democrats. Because when it comes down to it, you dont have to justify your beliefs my aligning yourself with a party. This also avoids all the feeling of obligation that one may feel when voting. So instead of voting for the party that you call yourself, you are voting for the one who you will think will be the best for the job and agree with the most.

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Well said! I often find myself not knowing which to choose, but I just end up going with my intuition. On issues such as abortion, gay marriage, nuclear proliferation, Iraq War, I only agree with the Republicans on one. As for the removal of "under God" in the pledge, I have no problem with that since not everyone is religious. Nonetheless, I share more similar principles with the Democrats, but most of them, at least the ones I know of, are rediculously unintelligent. Many of them tend to "I say this" and "I'm not going to provide any proof." It's like saying, "Putin just slapped Bush," but "I'm just saying, go find out for yourself"

[runningking7]

neither, gov't just like religion is pointless, imo of course...

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Agree with the religious part.

[AmericanConservative]

I'm a conservative. I voted for Bush. I consider myself a republican but I am very disappointed with this GOP. I do not like 2nd term Bush.

[todd]

I am a member of the AMERICAN PARTY also known as the Republican party! The party of patriots the party of common sense.  Most importantly, the party of our LORD and savior.

The traitor and coward party, the democrats, need to do the honorable thing and disband. Democrats will NEVER win ANY election ever again because America sees that the Republican party is the one TRUE American party.

Do your patriotic duty and vote Republican down the line in 2006 and 2008!

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Wow. I think you should take a step back and look at how irrational you are being. Democrats will not ever win another election? Think again. America sees that the Republican party is the one true American party? That's why the last election was so close, right?

You also fail to realize that not everyone in the country is Christian. Sheesh. :rolleyes:

[John S. Veteran]

A Christian Conservative Right-Wing Nut :p who most often votes with the Republicans because they agree with my stance on issues. I wouldn't be against voting Democrat, I've just never seen one on a ballot that I agreed with. :laugh:

[Diffused Mind]

Do your patriotic duty and vote Republican down the line in 2006 and 2008!

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I thought freedom was patriotic. :wacko:

[Diffused Mind]

Who do you think protects those freedoms? Liberals? If liberals were in power after 9/11 we'd be suing al-Qaeda instead of fighting them! The Republicans are the only ones willing to protect us from the evildoers at the gates that want to take away our way of life.

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Republicans use the excuse of terrorist attacks etc... to systematically remove the freedoms of the people. Blow up 2,000 people and it's easy to convince people that their rights are worthless.