icecaveman Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 I am a Democrat :)Republicans are the Anti Christ. 586841968[/snapback] Well quite many of them are Christian extremists :unsure: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 Neither. As Lewis Black said - "The Republicans are the party of bad ideas. The Democrats are the party of no ideas." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakeschneider Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 Republican. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiffle Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 Well quite many of them are Christian extremists :unsure: 586841974[/snapback] Got numbers to back that up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liandros Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 I am a hardcore democrat. i believe in seperation of church and equal rights to every american citizen whether they are white, black, asian, mexican, muslim, or gay. all men are created equally and you should not judge them on who they are. i thought america already went through this time and i thought it was over. i guess not. if you think that one party is THE AMERICAN party and is what all americans follow, then why dont you change the name of your party to The Communists or just join that party since they believe in a 1 party system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubNinja Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 Republicans have jumped on the religon bandwagon for there own benefit. It wasent like this until the 70's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurmoth Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 Republicans have jumped on the religon bandwagon for there own benefit.It wasent like this until the 70's. 586842015[/snapback] Republicans have always been considered the "religious" right, so I think it is unfair to say that they have jumped on the religious bandwagon. The south has always been the Bible belt and always Conservative/Republican. As for me, I voted Conservative (Non-Republican) because I vote on issue and not party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burn01 Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 What would you say if you were a fairly bright boy raised by a poor family? Most American parents save a lot of money just to get their kids to go to a good school, now what if your parents are losers and had nothing? The kid would have to work for it and could never afford to go to a good school of his dreams unless he got extremely lucky and made a lot of sacrifices. Now how is the kid who gets everything given into his hands from his rich parent not considered lazy when the poor boy works his behind off? Thankfully for the Army this way gets a lot of new recruits... The way I see republicans in general is most of them are quite short sighted, they think only about their own benefits, even though evidence points to harder times in the coming decades it usually gets neglected. Like they either have given up all hope for the future or delude them selves thinking everything will just automatically turn great. 586841871[/snapback] I grew up in poor family and my parents weren't losers by any means. I joined to finish my education and I don't see why this should be looked down upon. I also serve with alot of poor AND middle class (even some that are rich) kids that are using the Guard/Army to finish their education. Thankfully for anyone who never joined the armed forces we have a volunteer force. If that ever stopped being the case... well lets just say draft. Also, what is all of this nonsense about just the Republicans being evil or short-sighted? As far as I can tell all politicans think the way and neither party has a majority hold on stupidity. Besides if voting ever changed anything they would probably make it illegal. The Democrats are the party that says government will make you smarter, taller, richer, and remove the crabgrass on your lawn. The Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then they get elected and prove it. ~P.J. O'Rourke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icecaveman Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 Got numbers to back that up? 586842011[/snapback] At least one certain Bush and he uses it in a way I think no politician should ever use any religion. It's DANGEROUS and brings up hate in people even more :cry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordkanin Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 Putting too much of your opinion on the party rather than the position of a particular canditate is just plain stupid. How many times I've heard "I voted for Bush because I'm a republican" makes me want to vomit through my eyelids. (Ok, yes, I'm watching a Simpsons Halloween Special right now...) Most importantly, the party of our LORD and savior. There's that vomitting feeling again.I do have to say that I have any alignment, it's Anti Religious Right. The vast majority of their positions worry me greatly about the state of things in our Politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icecaveman Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 I was just wondering why you were calling all "less fortunate" people lazy? I thought you were against labeling people into stereotypical groups. I just get tired hearing it when many rich people are born rich and do nothing ala Paris Hilton and some hard working people are called lazy. The Democrats are the party that says government will make you smarter, taller, richer, and remove the crabgrass on your lawn.? The Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then they get elected and prove it.? ~P.J. O'Rourke 586842036[/snapback] Good quote:rofl:l: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiffle Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 At least one certain Bush and he uses it in a way I think no politician should ever use any religion. It's DANGEROUS and brings up hate in people even more :cry: 586842033[/snapback] Well now that 1 == many I really am worried about the future. :blink: :whistle: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshie Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 I generally find myself leaning towards conservative, tho' I can't think of any Republicans I'd vote for (except McCain). The Republican party of today is too team-minded, and their shared philosophy is not, by any stretch of the imagination, conservative. At one time it was, but that changed long ago. Nowadays, both parties are entirely about expanding the federal government's dominion over the states. They also all seem to forget that government is about keeping social order, not getting religious on us. It baffles me that homosexuality is even talked about by politicians. Abortion I can understand, because it can be argued that it's killing someone (and argued that it isn't--I take no stance on the issue), but stuff like gay marriage? The hell? The Republican party makes me very sad with how 'international' issues revolve around the war on terror, and 'domestic' issues revolve around whether teenagers should know about condoms. The Democratic party...is on my side in a lot of matters, but their spirit disappoints me. Many members have balls, but it doesn't seem like any of them are in congress at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yert* Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 That would be awesome if people voted based on their own opinions, not because it is the "Christian way to vote Republican", or because "my family votes Democrat, so I do too," etc. I do not belong to a party although I am not old enough to register yet. However, when I do register I will not belong to a party - because it's pointless. I will vote for who has the same belief system as I do and who supports as many of the issues I support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popsandthefamily Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 The poll sorta seems innacurate. Liberals can be Republicans or democrats, same for conservatives. Being democrat or republican is what party you affiliate with on a political/voting level, being liberal or conservative is a way of life. Thats why when people do or say things they are usually brought up as "well that was very liberal to do, or a very conservative remark" I've given up, i'll never be a politician, too much red tape. I'd rather be a social political, and let it stay at that level. I'll still have my views, and when the time is right, voice them. Guess you could call me an open minded conservative, who isnt afraid to go moderate on some issues. I support our government, our troops, our president, the list goes on! Before I clicked this link to get here, I figured half the pages were filled with Bush-Bashing, cause well, Neowin can be very liberal (its a big mesage board, its diverse). To those who would rather (and i quote alec baldwin here) "Leave the country" just cause of bush, rather than support him......all I can say is that you are hurting yourself. Another point: I hate Hillary Clinton, the woman gets on a few nerves, but if we was somehow elected in '08, I would supprt her. A country that doesnt support its leaders (and the amount of support is up to the supporter) is doomed to fail! Somethin to ponder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin- Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 Republicans have jumped on the religon bandwagon for there own benefit.It wasent like this until the 70's. 586842015[/snapback] Up until the last 50 to 70 years ago, both parties were, as you say, "on the religion bandwagon". Stop rewriting history. PROUD REPUBLICAN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yert* Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 I am a member of the AMERICAN PARTY also known as the Republican party! The party of patriots the party of common sense.? Most importantly, the party of our LORD and savior. The traitor and coward party, the democrats, need to do the honorable thing and disband. Democrats will NEVER win ANY election ever again because America sees that the Republican party is the one TRUE American party. Do your patriotic duty and vote Republican down the line in 2006 and 2008! 586841664[/snapback] Cults are bad, mmkay?:unsure:: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shockz Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 I am a member of the AMERICAN PARTY also known as the Republican party! The party of patriots the party of common sense. Most importantly, the party of our LORD and savior. The traitor and coward party, the democrats, need to do the honorable thing and disband. Democrats will NEVER win ANY election ever again because America sees that the Republican party is the one TRUE American party. Do your patriotic duty and vote Republican down the line in 2006 and 2008! 586841664[/snapback] If you truly believe that then wow... I'm defiantely doing my patriotic duty and not voting blindly as you are choosing to do... your probably one of those guys who don't even look at the candidates name on the voting ballot and just check everything you see that says republican. Truly pathetic. Lord of the savior? Please... if christians are represented in the way we see bush and his little cabinent then I'm glad I'm not one. Care to give me some reasons to why democrats are traitors and republicans aren't... seems to me like bush lied about a whole bunch of junk.. was a traitor to us (the american citizen).... but enough of that. Feel free to PM me and discuss my little question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icecaveman Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 Cults are bad, mmkay? :unsure: 586842106[/snapback] Yes. This one :laugh: Thank God there are not many this fanatical about it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asdfvawerafd Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 There should be a flat income tax regardless of income. No more of this pay higher percent because you earn more crap that the leftists installed over the years. Success should not be punished. 586841690[/snapback] your signature says a lot about this remark - athlon fx55 and 42' plasma? hardly short of a penny are you? think about if you were born into a poor family, your opportunities are immediately much more scarce than if you are in a well off family, therby making your standard of living lower and your future earnings lower. the more disposable income you have, the less you need to spend, so it makes sense to have higher tax rates, especially for those with more money than they know what to do with. Who do you think protects those freedoms? Liberals? If liberals were in power after 9/11 we'd be suing al-Qaeda instead of fighting them! The Republicans are the only ones willing to protect us from the evildoers at the gates that want to take away our way of life. 586841780[/snapback] dont you think its ironic that youre talking about taking about "taking away our way of life" when your government is doing exactly that as we speak? not been watching the news recently? (and no, fox news and CNN dont count) well let me inform you, your government is trying to hush stories about how its been "interrogating" suspects in eastern european "black sites" hidden away from the worlds view - now why would they do that if they werent doing anything they shouldnt be, like torturing them? o yes and lets not get started on the patriot act, civil liberties dont really matter when "FREEDOM" is concerned do they? nevermind the fact you've been holding people without charge for over 3 years at guantanamo bay - what theyve done is so bad you cant even define it with words right? is that why you can hold them indefinetely? start learning about whats happening in the world from a news organisation that isnt in bush's back pocket, heres a good starting point BBC News Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popsandthefamily Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 If you truly believe that then wow... I'm defiantely doing my patriotic duty and not voting blindly as you are choosing to do... your probably one of those guys who don't even look at the candidates name on the voting and just check everything you see that says republican. Truly pathetic. Care to give me some reasons to why democrats are traitors and republicans aren't... seems to me like bush lied about a whole bunch of junk.. was a traitor to us (the american citizen).... but enough of that. Feel free to PM me and discuss my little question. 586842130[/snapback] I agree partially with you. The guy you quoted has a lot to learn. There are faults on either side. I can see where he is coming from though, with the whole patriots things. Republican Conservatives embrace the "good ole days" when government was strict, simple, and decisive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shockz Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 Who do you think protects those freedoms? Liberals? If liberals were in power after 9/11 we'd be suing al-Qaeda instead of fighting them! The Republicans are the only ones willing to protect us from the evildoers at the gates that want to take away our way of life. 586841780[/snapback] Our freedoms? Our freedoms were taken away with the patriot act. The governement can pretty much do whatever they want to you as long as they label you a terrorist (even when your not). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popsandthefamily Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 Our freedoms? Our freedoms were taken away with the patriot act. The governement can pretty much do whatever they want to you as long as they label you a terrorist (even when your not). 586842147[/snapback] As they should. At least im being protected, even if it is me who's being interrogated for terrorism plots (hides anthrax) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icecaveman Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 As they should. At least im being protected, even if it is me who's being interrogated for terrorism plots (hides anthrax) 586842159[/snapback] Really, you should watch these 'cause you could get far worse during interrogation if you were a suspected terrorist :x http://www.channel4.com/news/microsites/T/torture/cases.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shockz Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 As they should. At least im being protected, even if it is me who's being interrogated for terrorism plots (hides anthrax) 586842159[/snapback] If it were black and white the act would be a good thing... you find a terroist and bang you can get them. However there is a TON of potential for abuse and wrong doing with this act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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