Democrats or Republicans?


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  1. 1. Are you a Democrat or Republican supporter?

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I am a hardcore democrat. i believe in seperation of church and equal rights to every american citizen whether they are white, black, asian, mexican, muslim, or gay. all men are created equally and you should not judge them on who they are. i thought america already went through this time and i thought it was over. i guess not.

if you think that one party is THE AMERICAN party and is what all americans follow, then why dont you change the name of your party to The Communists or just join that party since they believe in a 1 party system.

Republicans have jumped on the religon bandwagon for there own benefit.

It wasent like this until the 70's.

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Republicans have always been considered the "religious" right, so I think it is unfair to say that they have jumped on the religious bandwagon. The south has always been the Bible belt and always Conservative/Republican. As for me, I voted Conservative (Non-Republican) because I vote on issue and not party.

What would you say if you were a fairly bright boy raised by a poor family?

Most American parents save a lot of money just to get their kids to go to a good school, now what if your parents are losers and had nothing? The kid would have to work for it and could never afford to go to a good school of his dreams unless he got extremely lucky and made a lot of sacrifices. Now how is the kid who gets everything given into his hands from his rich parent not considered lazy when the poor boy works his behind off?

Thankfully for the Army this way gets a lot of new recruits...

The way I see republicans in general is most of them are quite short sighted, they think only about their own benefits, even though evidence points to harder times in the coming decades it usually gets neglected. Like they either have given up all hope for the future or delude them selves thinking everything will just automatically turn great.

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I grew up in poor family and my parents weren't losers by any means. I joined to finish my education and I don't see why this should be looked down upon. I also serve with alot of poor AND middle class (even some that are rich) kids that are using the Guard/Army to finish their education. Thankfully for anyone who never joined the armed forces we have a volunteer force. If that ever stopped being the case... well lets just say draft.

Also, what is all of this nonsense about just the Republicans being evil or short-sighted? As far as I can tell all politicans think the way and neither party has a majority hold on stupidity. Besides if voting ever changed anything they would probably make it illegal.

The Democrats are the party that says government will make you smarter, taller, richer, and remove the crabgrass on your lawn. The Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then they get elected and prove it. ~P.J. O'Rourke

Putting too much of your opinion on the party rather than the position of a particular canditate is just plain stupid. How many times I've heard "I voted for Bush because I'm a republican" makes me want to vomit through my eyelids. (Ok, yes, I'm watching a Simpsons Halloween Special right now...)

Most importantly, the party of our LORD and savior.
There's that vomitting feeling again.

I do have to say that I have any alignment, it's Anti Religious Right. The vast majority of their positions worry me greatly about the state of things in our Politics.

I was just wondering why you were calling all "less fortunate" people lazy?

I thought you were against labeling people into stereotypical groups.

I just get tired hearing it when many rich people are born rich and do nothing ala Paris Hilton and some hard working people are called lazy.

The Democrats are the party that says government will make you smarter, taller, richer, and remove the crabgrass on your lawn.? The Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then they get elected and prove it.? ~P.J. O'Rourke

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Good quote:rofl:l:

At least one certain Bush and he uses it in a way I think no politician should ever use any religion. It's DANGEROUS and brings up hate in people even more  :cry:

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Well now that 1 == many I really am worried about the future. :blink: :whistle:

I generally find myself leaning towards conservative, tho' I can't think of any Republicans I'd vote for (except McCain). The Republican party of today is too team-minded, and their shared philosophy is not, by any stretch of the imagination, conservative.

At one time it was, but that changed long ago. Nowadays, both parties are entirely about expanding the federal government's dominion over the states. They also all seem to forget that government is about keeping social order, not getting religious on us. It baffles me that homosexuality is even talked about by politicians. Abortion I can understand, because it can be argued that it's killing someone (and argued that it isn't--I take no stance on the issue), but stuff like gay marriage? The hell?

The Republican party makes me very sad with how 'international' issues revolve around the war on terror, and 'domestic' issues revolve around whether teenagers should know about condoms.

The Democratic party...is on my side in a lot of matters, but their spirit disappoints me. Many members have balls, but it doesn't seem like any of them are in congress at the moment.

That would be awesome if people voted based on their own opinions, not because it is the "Christian way to vote Republican", or because "my family votes Democrat, so I do too," etc. I do not belong to a party although I am not old enough to register yet. However, when I do register I will not belong to a party - because it's pointless. I will vote for who has the same belief system as I do and who supports as many of the issues I support.

The poll sorta seems innacurate. Liberals can be Republicans or democrats, same for conservatives. Being democrat or republican is what party you affiliate with on a political/voting level, being liberal or conservative is a way of life. Thats why when people do or say things they are usually brought up as "well that was very liberal to do, or a very conservative remark"

I've given up, i'll never be a politician, too much red tape. I'd rather be a social political, and let it stay at that level. I'll still have my views, and when the time is right, voice them. Guess you could call me an open minded conservative, who isnt afraid to go moderate on some issues. I support our government, our troops, our president, the list goes on!

Before I clicked this link to get here, I figured half the pages were filled with Bush-Bashing, cause well, Neowin can be very liberal (its a big mesage board, its diverse). To those who would rather (and i quote alec baldwin here) "Leave the country" just cause of bush, rather than support him......all I can say is that you are hurting yourself. Another point: I hate Hillary Clinton, the woman gets on a few nerves, but if we was somehow elected in '08, I would supprt her. A country that doesnt support its leaders (and the amount of support is up to the supporter) is doomed to fail!

Somethin to ponder

Republicans have jumped on the religon bandwagon for there own benefit.

It wasent like this until the 70's.

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Up until the last 50 to 70 years ago, both parties were, as you say, "on the religion bandwagon". Stop rewriting history.

PROUD REPUBLICAN.

I am a member of the AMERICAN PARTY also known as the Republican party! The party of patriots the party of common sense.? Most importantly, the party of our LORD and savior.

The traitor and coward party, the democrats, need to do the honorable thing and disband. Democrats will NEVER win ANY election ever again because America sees that the Republican party is the one TRUE American party.

Do your patriotic duty and vote Republican down the line in 2006 and 2008!

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Cults are bad, mmkay?:unsure::

I am a member of the AMERICAN PARTY also known as the Republican party! The party of patriots the party of common sense.  Most importantly, the party of our LORD and savior.

The traitor and coward party, the democrats, need to do the honorable thing and disband. Democrats will NEVER win ANY election ever again because America sees that the Republican party is the one TRUE American party.

Do your patriotic duty and vote Republican down the line in 2006 and 2008!

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If you truly believe that then wow...

I'm defiantely doing my patriotic duty and not voting blindly as you are choosing to do... your probably one of those guys who don't even look at the candidates name on the voting ballot and just check everything you see that says republican. Truly pathetic.

Lord of the savior? Please... if christians are represented in the way we see bush and his little cabinent then I'm glad I'm not one.

Care to give me some reasons to why democrats are traitors and republicans aren't... seems to me like bush lied about a whole bunch of junk.. was a traitor to us (the american citizen).... but enough of that. Feel free to PM me and discuss my little question.

There should be a flat income tax regardless of income. No more of this pay higher percent because you earn more crap that the leftists installed over the years. Success should not be punished.

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your signature says a lot about this remark - athlon fx55 and 42' plasma? hardly short of a penny are you? think about if you were born into a poor family, your opportunities are immediately much more scarce than if you are in a well off family, therby making your standard of living lower and your future earnings lower. the more disposable income you have, the less you need to spend, so it makes sense to have higher tax rates, especially for those with more money than they know what to do with.

Who do you think protects those freedoms? Liberals? If liberals were in power after 9/11 we'd be suing al-Qaeda instead of fighting them! The Republicans are the only ones willing to protect us from the evildoers at the gates that want to take away our way of life.

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dont you think its ironic that youre talking about taking about "taking away our way of life" when your government is doing exactly that as we speak? not been watching the news recently? (and no, fox news and CNN dont count) well let me inform you, your government is trying to hush stories about how its been "interrogating" suspects in eastern european "black sites" hidden away from the worlds view - now why would they do that if they werent doing anything they shouldnt be, like torturing them? o yes and lets not get started on the patriot act, civil liberties dont really matter when "FREEDOM" is concerned do they? nevermind the fact you've been holding people without charge for over 3 years at guantanamo bay - what theyve done is so bad you cant even define it with words right? is that why you can hold them indefinetely? start learning about whats happening in the world from a news organisation that isnt in bush's back pocket, heres a good starting point BBC News

If you truly believe that then wow...

I'm defiantely doing my patriotic duty and not voting blindly as you are choosing to do... your probably one of those guys who don't even look at the candidates name on the voting and just check everything you see that says republican. Truly pathetic.

Care to give me some reasons to why democrats are traitors and republicans aren't... seems to me like bush lied about a whole bunch of junk.. was a traitor to us (the american citizen).... but enough of that. Feel free to PM me and discuss my little question.

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I agree partially with you. The guy you quoted has a lot to learn. There are faults on either side. I can see where he is coming from though, with the whole patriots things. Republican Conservatives embrace the "good ole days" when government was strict, simple, and decisive.

Who do you think protects those freedoms? Liberals? If liberals were in power after 9/11 we'd be suing al-Qaeda instead of fighting them! The Republicans are the only ones willing to protect us from the evildoers at the gates that want to take away our way of life.

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Our freedoms? Our freedoms were taken away with the patriot act. The governement can pretty much do whatever they want to you as long as they label you a terrorist (even when your not).

Our freedoms? Our freedoms were taken away with the patriot act. The governement can pretty much do whatever they want to you as long as they label you a terrorist (even when your not).

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As they should. At least im being protected, even if it is me who's being interrogated for terrorism plots

(hides anthrax)

As they should. At least im being protected, even if it is me who's being interrogated for terrorism plots

(hides anthrax)

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Really, you should watch these 'cause you could get far worse during interrogation if you were a suspected terrorist :x

http://www.channel4.com/news/microsites/T/torture/cases.html

As they should. At least im being protected, even if it is me who's being interrogated for terrorism plots

(hides anthrax)

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If it were black and white the act would be a good thing... you find a terroist and bang you can get them. However there is a TON of potential for abuse and wrong doing with this act.

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SPC for NAS (TOS 7) is basically the same principle as UAC in Windows; it blocks executables from being launched by non-Super Users. After reaching out to my contact about these issues, I received the following response: Anyway, this only became clear when I closed the OpenClaw app screen and clicked on the OpenClaw icon in the taskbar; that is when I saw the message about disabling SPC. I think, due to the fact that this is a requirement, this should be a prompt during the installation process, not when closing the App Market and then trying to launch OpenClaw. There's also no 'Getting started' guide for people like me who have never used OpenClaw. I tried to add an LLM and discovered the tutorial led nowhere. That's when I started looking around the official TerraMaster forums, and I found a guide that helpfully explains that you won't get anywhere with OpenClaw unless you have a paid plan, which is disappointing because I imagined there would be an option to use a local LLM as I do in SubtitleEdit with Whisper-XXL. In addition, with the marketing imagery on the official site, it says that the OpenClaw feature is "all processed 100% locally for absolute privacy." which led me to believe that I could install a local LLM, not one that required paid tokens. In any case, TerraMaster does not provide guidance for this new feature, which was also a selling point of the F4-425 Pro! My contact also provided clarification about the above points I raised with TerraMaster Since it is not in the scope of the review to add paid services, I'll leave that to the people who are more qualified with OpenClaw. F4-425 Pro Surveillance App TOS also comes with a Surveillance app, which is not installed by default; it can be found in the App Market recommended section. In addition, after installing, it doesn't drop a shortcut on the Desktop or top taskbar, but you can "Send to Desktop" from the App Market listing for the app for a quick way to open it. Adding my Reolink POE doorbell camera was painless. TerraMaster doesn't appear to have a repository of preconfigured cameras; instead, the camera must be added using ONVIF or RTSP. No mobile Surveillance app TerraMaster still doesn't have a dedicated Surveillance app, although from searching online, Surveillance can be used and managed through the TNAS mobile app. I tried this with the updated TNAS mobile app beta in combination with TOS 7 and got a message that Surveillance was "Only accessible through web browser," so I reckon this must be limited to the stable versions of TOS 6 and the mobile app. More quirks In addition, whenever I minimized the Live View window in the browser Surveillance app, the feed appeared to switch to the Low-bandwidth stream, and there was no way to get the High-quality stream back. To get the High-quality stream back, I had to close Live View and then reopen it. Benchmarking A pretty cool feature of the TOS 7 is that it allows you to install directly to the NVMe M.2 SSD. In order to do that, you would have to leave out any HDDs during initialization, and even then, the system partitions are always written to two HDDs when they are eventually added. With three NVMe slots, this also gives an interesting scenario where you could build a TRAID storage Pool for installing all your apps and Docker on, and keep the third for SSD cache on the HDD pool. Limitless options! SATA PCIe 3.0 X1 A CrystalDiskMark test on a mapped network drive from within a Windows 11 25H2 PC (image above) connected over a 5 GbE hub was well within acceptable ranges. Although the read result on SATA was a little less than with the F4-425 Plus, for some reason, while writes were generally better. SATA PCIe 3.0 X1 I also ran the NAS Performance tester, which tests the link speed performance. As you can see, it pretty much maxes out the 5GbE connection. Of course, you can also opt to bond the two 5 GbE connections for a bit more umph, but I didn't do that. TOS 7, which, as of testing, is still in Beta, comes with an App Center that has a bunch of handy programs you can install right off the bat, such as Emby, Plex, Docker, as well as in-house Backup and Surveillance solutions. As you can imagine, any media streaming services you would want to host off the F4-425 Pro will work great, thanks to the Intel Core N350 CPU and its 16 GB of DDR5 memory. Accessing from mobile is only possible if Security Isolation Mode is disabled, which can put your NAS at risk from external sources, so there was no way to access it from the TNAS Mobile app. It's also quiet. I had this sat next to my computer on my work desk for the past week, and I did wonder if the noise I was accustomed to with NAS devices would annoy me, but all I could hear was a soft whirring of the rear fan (which was a little annoying) when the disks were not actively copying or reading data. Conclusion So what have I learned? Unfortunately, this release raises a few important questions and concerns that I feel haven't been adequately addressed. What I didn't like Our variant shipped with TOS 7 beta, and it's advised not to use it in a production environment. I feel that's a bit limiting on an $800 device. The mobile app is also still in beta and does not support some of the first-party apps, like Surveillance, and it still has quite a few bugs. I am a bit confused about the OpenClaw marketing along with the F4-425 Pro. I feel like that if it's going to be a main selling point, then offer official guidance on how to get started with it. TerraMaster recommends enabling SPC, but then markets the NAS for use with OpenClaw, which requires disabling SPC to be able to use it, opening up genuine security concerns for the NAS; and that's before you get into the security concerns of OpenClaw itself. Of course, the above issues won't be a problem if you decide to install something else on it, or even go back to the stable TOS 6. I wish TerraMaster had just given TOS 7 as opt-in rather than shipping with it. TOS 7 has been available as a preview since December 2025 (so well before my last TerraMaster review), and according to a thread on Reddit where a user shared a screenshot from the TerraMaster Facebook page, it is scheduled to launch today, June 23, but there's nothing about that in the TerraMaster news blog. My contact confirmed over email that TOS 7 exits beta today. The rubber feet also deserve a mention as they continue to be a problem, with them coming unstuck the moment you shift the F4-425 Pro anywhere on your desk. What I liked What it comes down to, though, aside from what I already mentioned, you are still getting a quality, affordable device here, so recommending it will depend on the individual's use case. If you're just looking for a relatively small NAS device to manage virtual machines on, backup your files, and take care of your home theater streaming, then it is a great device that will certainly futureproof you for some time. It provides good performance, takes up little space, and is, on the whole, very quiet. Four bays afford proper redundancy using TRAID or RAID 5, and you can even expand on storage capacity by adding the 2-bay D5, or 4-bay D8 Hybrid DAS over a USB 3.2 (10Gbps) link. Considering the 2024 releases were more about power, with the likes of an Intel Core i5-1235U high-end laptop CPU under the hood, I asked my contact last time if we could expect more of the same in higher-end models and was told: It makes a lot of sense to use Intel's N350 chip inside a NAS; it is more than capable of doing what the F4-425 Pro is intended for, media streaming and backup. The only downside is still the clear lack of community and even staff support on the official forums. In the past, I have had topics go unanswered for days, or there would be generic-type "we've noted this and passed it onto our developer team" type responses. Along with the other things I mentioned, it all ends up costing it a couple of points. If you are comfortable with the command line, Docker, and setting up TrueNAS or Unraid, you'll be fine. You can do great things with this hardware. In TOS, the apps are a bit lacking, and things don't always work as expected.\ AI NAS?! What has become clear to me this year is that we are going to start seeing all kinds of "AI NAS" come to market, and while that might be good for us consumers, be diligent and research these claims. Although the F4-425 Pro technically comes with AI, it is really using a cloud service that is externally sourced off-device through the third party OpenClaw app. My colleague did review a newcomer to the NAS space earlier this year, and it includes a local AI assistant inside the Zettlab D4 NAS, and they do not even use AI in the product name, check out Chris' review here. Where to buy and a discount coupon However, it does not change the fact that this is truly a great entry-level home media-class NAS that you can buy right now. TerraMaster is having a 20% off launch discount, plus you can also still apply our unique 10% off coupon on checkout, which only works on the official website. So here is a breakdown of the pricing that is only valid on the official TerraMaster website. TerraMaster F4-425 Pro (N350) + 20% discount + 10% coupon = $575.99 TerraMaster F4-425 Pro (N305) + 20% discount + 10% coupon = $503.99 TerraMaster F4-425 Pro (N350) + 20% discount + 10% coupon = £525.59 TerraMaster F4-425 Pro (N305) + 20% discount + 10% coupon = £460.79 Use NEOWIN coupon code during checkout for 10% discount Over on Amazon US and UK, the F4-425 Pro also gets a 20% launch discount, but here, the above 10% coupon cannot be applied. TerraMaster F4-425 Pro (N350) for $639.99 at Amazon US (was $799.99) TerraMaster F4-425 Pro (N305) for $559.99 at Amazon US (was $699.99) TerraMaster F4-425 Pro (N350) for £583.99 at Amazon UK (was £729.99) TerraMaster F4-425 Pro (N305) for £511.99 at Amazon UK (was £639.99) As an Amazon Associate, when you purchase through links on our site, we earn from qualifying purchases.
    • well you can add a GPU for around $500, that's still around the price of Steam Machine but overall significantly better in performance.
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