flyakite Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 Awesome, looking forward to shots of it. I take it it will install like any other VS? (As in it can be removed/changed via the Display dialogs) 586862688[/snapback] Ehh... not so much. What you have to realize is, FlyakiteOSX at it's basics is an installer. It is not a program in the typical sense. What it will do is moddify your system files, install software, install skins, cursors, sounds, etc. without the user having to mess with that stuff. Display Properties only shows a few things. Mainly wallpaper in the Desktop tab and visual styles in the Appearance tab. So the wallpaper and visual style skins that FlyakiteOSX installs will appear in the tab, but everything else will not. Cursors will apear in the Cursors tab of Mouse Properties. Sound schemes in the Sounds tab of Sounds and Audio Devices, etc. But yes, sure you can change the visual style still through Display Properties and all that, but it's not just a whole set you can turn off with a switch. Especially the icons. Since the icons stored within an actual system file is modded, the system is now using that icon. To use different icons you need to use Icon Packager (or IconPhile does it as well I believe?), or you need to uninstall the "System Files" portion of the package. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/402084-flyakite-3-its-comming-d-d-d/page/2/#findComment-586862707 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamNeeds Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 Ok then...Thank you for that. Will there be an uninstaller? So that if i want to change, i can uninstall the style and any files it placed with the files that were there previous to installation (reverting back to the state of the VS before hand). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/402084-flyakite-3-its-comming-d-d-d/page/2/#findComment-586862948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TehN.e.o.b.o.n.d Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/402084-flyakite-3-its-comming-d-d-d/page/2/#findComment-586862975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
leonx81 Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 great, looking forward to install the new release. Keep up your good works! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/402084-flyakite-3-its-comming-d-d-d/page/2/#findComment-586863134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
y0sh Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 Ok then...Thank you for that. Will there be an uninstaller? So that if i want to change, i can uninstall the style and any files it placed with the files that were there previous to installation (reverting back to the state of the VS before hand). 586862948[/snapback] Yes, yes. I saw this v3 preview about a week ago. I wanted to download v2 and got that image. Can't wait either. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/402084-flyakite-3-its-comming-d-d-d/page/2/#findComment-586863155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verth-Neel Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 Holy **** man it's COMING and NOT COMMING! I went to the official site of Fly a Kite and I found with the announce of the third version!!!The second version is greate, but How would it be the third??? Well, for anyone who likes this shellpack I think this gonna be interesting ^^... http://osx.portraitofakite.com/ 586853213[/snapback] Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/402084-flyakite-3-its-comming-d-d-d/page/2/#findComment-586863163 Share on other sites More sharing options...
:No-Frost: Posted November 28, 2005 Author Share Posted November 28, 2005 xD Sorry my english sucks a littlebit xD I speack spanish, so...some words get me confused xD... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/402084-flyakite-3-its-comming-d-d-d/page/2/#findComment-586863497 Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe_banana Posted December 18, 2005 Share Posted December 18, 2005 updates? when will it be out? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/402084-flyakite-3-its-comming-d-d-d/page/2/#findComment-586939392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigitalE Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 Yes, yes. I saw this v3 preview about a week ago. I wanted to download v2 and got that image. Can't wait either. Yep, same here. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/402084-flyakite-3-its-comming-d-d-d/page/2/#findComment-586940479 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khuat Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 It messed up my XPSP2 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/402084-flyakite-3-its-comming-d-d-d/page/2/#findComment-586940742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detroit Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 I remember installing v1, it was fun then I realized how much slower my ocmputer ran :/ Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/402084-flyakite-3-its-comming-d-d-d/page/2/#findComment-586940764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
runningking7 Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 I installed V2 for an hour, the uninstalled it because it was really slow. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/402084-flyakite-3-its-comming-d-d-d/page/2/#findComment-586941162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nada. Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 :alien: Question,wish somebody can help me: I'm using FlyakiteOSX 2.0, Who can tell me, how dose it change the bootscreen as so? Can I do it without FlyakiteOSX? If so, which steps should i follow? which files dose it changed or added? I have checked the Ntoskrnl.exe file, it isn't changed, so how can it be like that? Plz answer me.... I really want to do it myself. Coz I when i reinstall my system, i can keep the things (Or who can tell me which files should i keep after installing FlyakiteOSX?). Thnx...... :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/402084-flyakite-3-its-comming-d-d-d/page/2/#findComment-586941205 Share on other sites More sharing options...
onlybasit Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 :alien: Question,wish somebody can help me: I'm using FlyakiteOSX 2.0, Who can tell me, how dose it change the bootscreen as so? Can I do it without FlyakiteOSX? If so, which steps should i follow? which files dose it changed or added? I have checked the Ntoskrnl.exe file, it isn't changed, so how can it be like that? Plz answer me.... I really want to do it myself. Coz I when i reinstall my system, i can keep the things (Or who can tell me which files should i keep after installing FlyakiteOSX?). Thnx...... :D There are a number of programs that allows you to change your bootscreen including StyleXP, LogonUI Boot Randmoizer. I havn't tried Flyakite 2 but am waiting to try the version 3 so i can't tell whether it hacks the ntoskrnl.exe file aur creates its copy. However you can try other programs which can change your bootscreen. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/402084-flyakite-3-its-comming-d-d-d/page/2/#findComment-586941835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamNeeds Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 Hows it coming along now? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/402084-flyakite-3-its-comming-d-d-d/page/2/#findComment-586942272 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RightfulSpire Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 yea cant wait to see 3.0 wish he would give us a timeline or something, i hate not knowing :( Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/402084-flyakite-3-its-comming-d-d-d/page/2/#findComment-586942296 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyakite Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 :alien: Question,wish somebody can help me: I'm using FlyakiteOSX 2.0, Who can tell me, how dose it change the bootscreen as so? Can I do it without FlyakiteOSX? If so, which steps should i follow? which files dose it changed or added? I have checked the Ntoskrnl.exe file, it isn't changed, so how can it be like that? Plz answer me.... I really want to do it myself. Coz I when i reinstall my system, i can keep the things (Or who can tell me which files should i keep after installing FlyakiteOSX?). Thnx...... :D v2.0 uses a special method to edit the boot screen. It edits the boot.ini file and appends the switches /bootlogo and /noguiboot to the end of the first boot entry. What this does is tells the system to not use the normal GUI bootup with the XP boot screen and progress bar. It also tells it to use a static bmp as the boot logo. If you look in your WINDOWS directory you will find Boot.bmp, that is the image it is using. As for v3.0, this has entirely changed. The installer creates a copy of ntoskrnl.exe. Then what it does is dynamically patch the color palette that is hardcoded into the file, as well as replaces the standard image resources in the file. What this does is allows the system to use a normal bootup screen that allows a progress bar and does not interfere with startup procedures like ChkDsk or Partition Magic. It also removes the switches set by v2.0 and sets a new switch /kernel=osxboot.exe, which tells the system to use the copy of the ntoskrnl.exe file it made. This way your original ntoskrnl.exe file is NEVER messed with. As for a time frame, it was originally supposed to be released before Christmas, but has been pushed back a couple of weeks or so. Since releases are so rare now, I think we can all agree its best to do it right than release it early and regret it later. Don't worry though, it will be worth the wait as soooo much is being changed/added/fixed. Thanks everyone! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/402084-flyakite-3-its-comming-d-d-d/page/2/#findComment-586942861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nada. Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 v2.0 uses a special method to edit the boot screen. It edits the boot.ini file and appends the switches /bootlogo and /noguiboot to the end of the first boot entry. What this does is tells the system to not use the normal GUI bootup with the XP boot screen and progress bar. It also tells it to use a static bmp as the boot logo. If you look in your WINDOWS directory you will find Boot.bmp, that is the image it is using. As for v3.0, this has entirely changed. The installer creates a copy of ntoskrnl.exe. Then what it does is dynamically patch the color palette that is hardcoded into the file, as well as replaces the standard image resources in the file. What this does is allows the system to use a normal bootup screen that allows a progress bar and does not interfere with startup procedures like ChkDsk or Partition Magic. It also removes the switches set by v2.0 and sets a new switch /kernel=osxboot.exe, which tells the system to use the copy of the ntoskrnl.exe file it made. This way your original ntoskrnl.exe file is NEVER messed with. As for a time frame, it was originally supposed to be released before Christmas, but has been pushed back a couple of weeks or so. Since releases are so rare now, I think we can all agree its best to do it right than release it early and regret it later. Don't worry though, it will be worth the wait as soooo much is being changed/added/fixed. Thanks everyone! Thanks Flyakite! :blush: But, could u tell me which files should I keep for Bootscreen, Plz? Cheers! :D Strongly support you, your team and FlyakiteOSX !!! Merry X'mas! :laugh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/402084-flyakite-3-its-comming-d-d-d/page/2/#findComment-586943110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freedom Phantom Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 yay, looking forward to its release. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/402084-flyakite-3-its-comming-d-d-d/page/2/#findComment-586943125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyakite Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 Thanks Flyakite! :blush: But, could u tell me which files should I keep for Bootscreen, Plz? Cheers! :D Strongly support you, your team and FlyakiteOSX !!! Merry X'mas! :laugh: Go to the WINDOWS directory and find the file Boot.bmp, and keep that. Then after you reformat, edit your boot.ini (in the root of your WINDOWS drive, generally C:\boot.ini. Its hidden, but trust me it is there). Or, System Properties -> Advanced tab -> Startup and Recovery settings -> "Edit" button under System Startup. [boot loader] timeout=30 default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS [operating systems] multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect That is the default boot.ini normally. On the first line after [operating systems] add the switches /noguiboot and /bootlogo, so you end up with something like this: multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /noexecute=optin /noguiboot /bootlogo After you have edited boot.ini and saved it, copy Boot.bmp into your WINDOWS folder and you're all set. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/402084-flyakite-3-its-comming-d-d-d/page/2/#findComment-586943127 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nada. Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 Go to the WINDOWS directory and find the file Boot.bmp, and keep that. Then after you reformat, edit your boot.ini (in the root of your WINDOWS drive, generally C:\boot.ini. Its hidden, but trust me it is there). Or, System Properties -> Advanced tab -> Startup and Recovery settings -> "Edit" button under System Startup. [boot loader] timeout=30 default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS [operating systems] multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect That is the default boot.ini normally. On the first line after [operating systems] add the switches /noguiboot and /bootlogo, so you end up with something like this: multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /noexecute=optin /noguiboot /bootlogo After you have edited boot.ini and saved it, copy Boot.bmp into your WINDOWS folder and you're all set. Brilliant, Thank you very much Flyakite. You're so kind. Looking forward to the V.30... Supporting you forever... :cry: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/402084-flyakite-3-its-comming-d-d-d/page/2/#findComment-586943269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrisCr0ss Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 n i thought 2 was brilliant this should be amazing!! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/402084-flyakite-3-its-comming-d-d-d/page/2/#findComment-586943540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuu Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 i'm never tried flyakite.. i guess i might have to give it a shot when version 3 comes out.. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/402084-flyakite-3-its-comming-d-d-d/page/2/#findComment-586944729 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoneAvail Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 does anyone know the exact release date? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/402084-flyakite-3-its-comming-d-d-d/page/2/#findComment-586944738 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fascist Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 Since you seem to be in the jolly mood :rofl: , how about some screenshots :shiftyninja: . Thanks :woot: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/402084-flyakite-3-its-comming-d-d-d/page/2/#findComment-586944881 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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