Blues Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 Too bad its pwned by the Saleen S7 1000BHP model.... Faster acceleration, similar top speed .... a million (dollars?) less in price oh and better handeling due to being 500kg's lighter But sure... its a nice car if you got a nice fat bank account note that 1000bhp isn't so hard to achieve you can get that much power from a corvette or a dodge viper... but they are not even close to the technology of this car, producing power is one thing but using it a something totally diffrent hahahha rofl what are you smoking cause i want some. putting a mustang and a viper in the same category.. shame on you. :no: but in response to the above poster, the car costs about 7mil usd to produce and is being solt at aout the same as about 1.5 mil usd. the reason being is that vw (yes its a vw, based on the vw w16 concept car) manufactored the car as the equivilant of a tech demo. I think clarkson was right in saying this car is the equivilant to the car world as the concord was to the airplane world. Sadly though i dont think a single person will ever be able to drive one of these in our lives save winning the lottery. And I dont think anything is going to come close technologically wise for a long time. it truely is a thing of beauty. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/408723-buggati-veyron-video-0-210-mph-in-cockpit-cam/page/2/#findComment-586934517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 the reason being is that vw (yes its a vw, based on the vw w16 concept car) manufactored the car as the equivilant of a tech demo. Actually, if you are talking about the Volkswagen Concept car that ran at Nardo, it was a w12. The veyron has a w16 made from 2 Audi v8s. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/408723-buggati-veyron-video-0-210-mph-in-cockpit-cam/page/2/#findComment-586934803 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrogers Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 The veyron has a w16 made from 2 Audi v8s. Which is still a VW, so I think his point stands. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/408723-buggati-veyron-video-0-210-mph-in-cockpit-cam/page/2/#findComment-586934995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beastage Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 hahahha rofl what are you smoking cause i want some. putting a mustang and a viper in the same category.. shame on you.:no:o: but in response to the above poster, the car costs about 7mil usd to produce and is being solt at aout the same as about 1.5 mil usd. the reason being is that vw (yes its a vw, based on the vw w16 concept car) manufactored the car as the equivilant of a tech demo. I think clarkson was right in saying this car is the equivilant to the car world as the concord was to the airplane world. Sadly though i dont think a single person will ever be able to drive one of these in our lives save winning the lottery. And I dont think anything is going to come close technologically wise for a long time. it truely is a thing of beauty. ... shame on me? shame on you for misreading me I didn't put the cars in the same category and its obvious from my post. I gave the Veyron the credit of using 1000BHP to the full potential. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/408723-buggati-veyron-video-0-210-mph-in-cockpit-cam/page/2/#findComment-586935005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nekrosoft13 Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 hahahha rofl what are you smoking cause i want some. putting a mustang and a viper in the same category.. shame on you:no:o: . saleen s7 is not really a mustang Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/408723-buggati-veyron-video-0-210-mph-in-cockpit-cam/page/2/#findComment-586935055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 Which is still a VW, so I think his point stands. *points to VW Addict* Yes, I know. But he said w16 concept car ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/408723-buggati-veyron-video-0-210-mph-in-cockpit-cam/page/2/#findComment-586935078 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulCabby Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 Heres the Bugatti episode on topgear thats not a torrent... A bit crap, but you should get the idea. http://www.youtube.com/?v=uJHCFZNFZZA POWAAAAAH! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/408723-buggati-veyron-video-0-210-mph-in-cockpit-cam/page/2/#findComment-586935113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Live Veteran Posted December 17, 2005 Veteran Share Posted December 17, 2005 It's more Audi than anything else :p It has an Audi DSG transmission, and Audi engine, an Audi Quattro drivetrain. Although technically Bugatti falls under VW's control (whereas Lambo falls entirely under Audi's control). And yes, Audi is owned by VW, but there are a lot of distinctions between Audi-developed technology (FSI, TDI, DSG, Quattro, and all of Audi's engines like the 1.8T, 2.0T, 4.2L, 5.0L, etc) and VW technology (VR6 and other VW-developed engines like the inline-5 in the mk5 Jetta and the various VR6 engines). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/408723-buggati-veyron-video-0-210-mph-in-cockpit-cam/page/2/#findComment-586935121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Kompressor Posted December 18, 2005 Author Share Posted December 18, 2005 Heres the Bugatti episode on topgear thats not a torrent... A bit crap, but you should get the idea. http://www.youtube.com/?v=uJHCFZNFZZA POWAAAAAH! Thanks for that. The car has 10 radiators. lol 100 litre petrol tank that you can finish in 12 minutes driving at the top speed. :rofl: The saleen has nothing on this. this is magnificent auto engineering...5 years in the making. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/408723-buggati-veyron-video-0-210-mph-in-cockpit-cam/page/2/#findComment-586936545 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeM741 Posted December 18, 2005 Share Posted December 18, 2005 5Million per car to make as well...according to Mr. Clarkson :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/408723-buggati-veyron-video-0-210-mph-in-cockpit-cam/page/2/#findComment-586937040 Share on other sites More sharing options...
asaki Posted December 18, 2005 Share Posted December 18, 2005 crazy stuff on that top gear episode...what amazes is the ?5,000,000 PRODUCTION cost, but only a ?850,000 retail price. does anyone know if they made more than 1? or how many they made xactly? cause i wouldnt think VW would make so many at around ?4,150,000 los:huh:uh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/408723-buggati-veyron-video-0-210-mph-in-cockpit-cam/page/2/#findComment-586938510 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted December 18, 2005 Share Posted December 18, 2005 crazy stuff on that top gear episode...what amazes is the ?5,000,000 PRODUCTION cost, but only a ?850,000 retail price. does anyone know if they made more than 1? or how many they made xactly? cause i wouldnt think VW would make so many at around ?4,150,000 los:huh:uh: Yes, thats true. You can buy them, and they make such a loss because it was built to see if it was possible. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/408723-buggati-veyron-video-0-210-mph-in-cockpit-cam/page/2/#findComment-586939195 Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbomonkeycock Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 Yes, thats true. You can buy them, and they make such a loss because it was built to see if it was possible. This is my main annoyance at the Veyron. I'm sure that the likes of Ferrari, McLaren, Lambo etc could make as good a car with money being no object but they have to make cars that are financially viable. That's why I still think the F1 is the greatest car ever :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/408723-buggati-veyron-video-0-210-mph-in-cockpit-cam/page/2/#findComment-586940119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrogers Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 This is my main annoyance at the Veyron. I'm sure that the likes of Ferrari, McLaren, Lambo etc could make as good a car with money being no object but they have to make cars that are financially viable. That's why I still think the F1 is the greatest car ever :D Main annoyance? That's the greatest thing about the Veyron!! That VW was willing to step up and do it! I'm glad it's not a Ferrari or whatever...it's even more of a statement that it essentially came out of nowhere from Bugatti. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/408723-buggati-veyron-video-0-210-mph-in-cockpit-cam/page/2/#findComment-586942106 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev1n Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 I think I read in my newspaper that this is the fastest and most expensive car on the earth, and only 1000 units are available. Top speed is faster than an F1 car. Amazing. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/408723-buggati-veyron-video-0-210-mph-in-cockpit-cam/page/2/#findComment-586942153 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beastage Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 Main annoyance? That's the greatest thing about the Veyron!! That VW was willing to step up and do it! I'm glad it's not a Ferrari or whatever...it's even more of a statement that it essentially came out of nowhere from Bugatti. I won't call a big company like VW that has Audi, Lamborghini and Bugatti under its control "out of nowhere" besides, Bugatti been around for ages Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/408723-buggati-veyron-video-0-210-mph-in-cockpit-cam/page/2/#findComment-586942664 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicane-UK Veteran Posted December 19, 2005 Veteran Share Posted December 19, 2005 Bugatti have been at the super (hyper?) car game for a long time - they are not a new name. Its just that the EB110 nailed them really and it took a long time before any company dared to take that name on and make a product worthy of its heritage! VW/Audi group have done it justice and produced a masterpiece of engineering - and in the process they have silenced a LOT of naysayers and doubters who said it couldn't be done. It has been done, and its a masterpiece. My only gripe is that i'll probably never see one, never get to sit in one, and never ever get the chance to drive one :( VW are taking a huge loss on each Veyron but its basically done three things for them: a) Along with Lamborghini, got them well and truely comfortable in the supercar market b) Proved to be an invaluable piece of engineering research for their engineers c) Given the advertising and bragging rights beyond their wildest dreams. I mean who isn't talking about the Veyron now its here?! :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/408723-buggati-veyron-video-0-210-mph-in-cockpit-cam/page/2/#findComment-586943171 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Kompressor Posted December 19, 2005 Author Share Posted December 19, 2005 If you really look into the details it will baffle you. lol I just noticed the Mad Torque coming out at the RPM level. 2200 rpm 992 lb ft. jessuss! :blink: :wacko: when this car moves off hard it must kick you in the chest with those 4 turbo's. Torque 922 lb ft @ 2200rpm Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/408723-buggati-veyron-video-0-210-mph-in-cockpit-cam/page/2/#findComment-586943212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicane-UK Veteran Posted December 19, 2005 Veteran Share Posted December 19, 2005 Yeah.. I bet you really feel that sort of torque!! Phenominal power really. Oh and er.. you might all enjoy this 'in car' video of the Veyron cruising round a track.. the guy isn't really pushing it but the noise of it! Oh my GOD! http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1830920854455243720 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/408723-buggati-veyron-video-0-210-mph-in-cockpit-cam/page/2/#findComment-586943304 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrogers Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 I won't call a big company like VW that has Audi, Lamborghini and Bugatti under its control "out of nowhere" besides, Bugatti been around for ages :rolleyes: Yes, I know Bugatti has been around for a long time. My point was, it's been dead for awhile. While still significant, it wouldn't be as big of a splash if Ferrari, or Lamborghini, or any of the other established supercar brands made a car with the Veyron's specs -- because they have modern stepping stones to get there, and whether or not they're owned by the same company as Bugatti makes no difference to the general public. They're different brands -- and since Bugatti really had no other modern cars when the Veyron was concieved, it was a big leap for the brand -- hence why I said "out of nowhere" -- even if they did have the engineering backing of VW/Audi. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/408723-buggati-veyron-video-0-210-mph-in-cockpit-cam/page/2/#findComment-586943460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicane-UK Veteran Posted December 20, 2005 Veteran Share Posted December 20, 2005 Thats true I suppose but then its also the case that Bugatti was previously known for its slightly outlandish cars - the EB110 had a 60 valve, quad cam 3.5 litre V12 with 4 turbo's strapped to it. It was sort of inevitable that the successor to that car had to be something similar, just on steroids ;) Although the fact that it was in the hands of VW would have suggested that (as you say) something more sensible was going to be the end result.. guess that wasn't going to be the case :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/408723-buggati-veyron-video-0-210-mph-in-cockpit-cam/page/2/#findComment-586946054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Got3n Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 you can let an F1 car get to 150mph before the bugatti takes off and it the bugatti will still beat the F1 to 200MPH. They did a whole show in this car on final gear, its simply awesome. but it uses a full tank of gas in 12 minutes ^_^. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/408723-buggati-veyron-video-0-210-mph-in-cockpit-cam/page/2/#findComment-586946179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicane-UK Veteran Posted December 20, 2005 Veteran Share Posted December 20, 2005 Well no, it doesn't - not in normal driving anyway. Will use it all in 12 minutes if its going absolutely flat out though. But then what do you expect if you're doing 252MPH in a 16 cylinder, 8 litre, quad turbo hyper car? ;) One thing I noticed about it that was sort of weird but sounded cool was that it must use some air assisted / pressure system on the brakes - on Top Gear, a couple of times when Clarkson pulled up in front of the camera to stop, there was a sort of hiss noise like the sort a bus makes when it pulls up. Anyone know any more about that or whats causing the noise? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/408723-buggati-veyron-video-0-210-mph-in-cockpit-cam/page/2/#findComment-586946200 Share on other sites More sharing options...
n30w1n Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 This car in all honestly looks like ****. It's very cool, very fast and we would all love to own one, but I don't understand the people who rave about how sexy it is... The hood of this car reminds me of a flaccid penis, hanging down between two testicular front fenders. The back looks like it's not even a part of the car, like it's half an eggshell held on by the spoiler that cracked through it, that's eventually supposed to come off and reveal the real rear end. This car has many strengths but sexiness is not one of them :shiftyninja: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/408723-buggati-veyron-video-0-210-mph-in-cockpit-cam/page/2/#findComment-586946206 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaLiVa Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 This car in all honestly looks like ****. It's very cool, very fast and we would all love to own one, but I don't understand the people who rave about how sexy it is... The hood of this car reminds me of a flaccid penis, hanging down between two testicular front fenders. The back looks like it's not even a part of the car, like it's half an eggshell that's eventually supposed to come off and reveal the real rear end. This car has many strengths but sexiness is not one of them :shiftyninja: Wow, what a very detailed, grotesque description... :| How can the company survive by building monsters? 800,000 quid does grow on trees, but imagine how many you'd have to cut down to get that much! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/408723-buggati-veyron-video-0-210-mph-in-cockpit-cam/page/2/#findComment-586946215 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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