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Yes, that forum is indeed for debating politics, religion, war, etc. but not flaming. Besides, there was already another thread that you could express your thoughts of religion on. Maybe the mod who closed the thread was being a little paranoid, but it was already heading towards a flame fest as of then IMO.

I like those kind of threads but not when they turn or are about to turn into an insult free-for-all.

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If everything gets closed on a glimpse of a possible flame war, then you can already close the OS forums, and partly the gendisc too then.

I know the mods have to deal with a lot of people here, but closing something without an incident is not good. The other still open religious thread we argued several pages w/o any flaming. So what.

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wat is that about 33+% is off topic, its all like that now these days on neowin this is a TECH SITE not a religous site or a fishing site for BAIT* or what way u swing. stick to the main topic of the site people!! ARG :p

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From Merriam-Webster

Debate:

a contention by words or arguments for a regulated discussion of a proposition between two matched sides

I think that's applicable here. Quite frankly, what goes on at Neowin isn't half as bad as televised debates, and if you can't handle someone mocking your beliefs/ideas, you shouldn't be involved with one in the first place. I've had teachers who have done nothing but critizice students for a reason, they try and prove everything the student believes is wrong so that the student will defend what they believe in. A couple of good knockings on someones foundations is a good way to make sure their solid.

But whatever. I'll go along with the mods. The 3 more or less equal topics was a bit...much. And like the definition says, it is "regulated".

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Originally posted by Tesseract

I would guess the "Proof or Religion" thread was closed because although there was no flaming at the time, the topic was very sensitive and it would more than likely spiral out of control. I think that deadzombie made the right decision here, but that is just my opinion.

hey mate.... how you pasted out the half page..... tell me....

thankssssss.... ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

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No offense, but sometimes people want to discuss such topics like religion, and it's not fair to close them everytime because you see a flamebait. If you don't wanna peeps start such topics again, please add No Religion to the community rules and remove Religion from RL Issues forum description.

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The issue is not about discussing religion within the forums, but how such a topic is discussed.

A thread that demands proof for someone's beliefs is asking to start a flame war. It has always happened this way in the past, and after just a few posts it was obvious that the thread I closed was also headed in that direction.

Threads that vear off-topic, such as the recently closed "What do you believe and why?" thread, basically serve no purpose other than to raise post count. Not to mention it serves as a dissappointment to guests on our boards, who may click a link on a specific subject only to end up reading about people sticking their genitals in household electronics.

If you dislike the way I or any other moderator executes our responsibilities to the Neowin boards, you are always free to take it up with any of the Neowin staff via PM or email.

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Originally posted by twist

dead, i personally don't care what you close, or why.

but if your gonna be so heavy handed about religous topics, then you should be for all topics.

you seem to really be against me when i post in religous threads ;)

Paranoid delusions twist??:evil:

Actually, was the dick in the toaster comment really necessary? Funny yes, but necessary?:dead:

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Originally posted by twist

you seem to really be against me when i post in religous threads ;)

Hmm...well EVERY topic I've posted in in the Real World Issues forum has been closed, so maybe there's a connection there ;)

Course, even if a topic gets closed, something gets said. Some point is made, no matter how inane. Or, as the case may be, insane (toaster boy).

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Originally posted by twist

nothing is really nessecary in the real world forum ;) and the thread was rather bland. hehe

Come on now, at that rate...do you think we really need new cursors for our desktop?

*Looks at little black cursor*

I take back my point. God is Dead! Viva la Windows XP themes! :p

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Originally posted by deadzombie

The issue is not about discussing religion within the forums, but how such a topic is discussed.

A thread that demands proof for someone's beliefs is asking to start a flame war. It has always happened this way in the past, and after just a few posts it was obvious that the thread I closed was also headed in that direction.

Threads that vear off-topic, such as the recently closed "What do you believe and why?" thread, basically serve no purpose other than to raise post count. Not to mention it serves as a dissappointment to guests on our boards, who may click a link on a specific subject only to end up reading about people sticking their genitals in household electronics.

If you dislike the way I or any other moderator executes our responsibilities to the Neowin boards, you are always free to take it up with any of the Neowin staff via PM or email.

I guess that you don't understand the concept of debait. :) If everyone agreed on all topics it would be quite boring. There is a big difference between a heated debate and a so-called flamewar. Learn the difference and don't jump the gun so quickly. If you can't properly defend your beliefs then they aren't worth having.

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