Tim Dorr Veteran Posted March 21, 2006 Veteran Share Posted March 21, 2006 That's exactly what I thought until I checked one day to find SF installed on my PC. Turned out a demo I had downloaded installed it. :( WTF? Who needs to stop the piracy of a DEMO? :blink: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/444707-new-version-of-starforce/page/2/#findComment-587332164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AionXn_ Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 WTF? Who needs to stop the piracy of a DEMO? :blink: LOL i know eh! god damnit. seriously, starforce needs to be SHUT DOWN! :crazy: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/444707-new-version-of-starforce/page/2/#findComment-587332170 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inplode Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 WTF? Who needs to stop the piracy of a DEMO? :blink: yep ive come across a few demos that had starforce on this ! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/444707-new-version-of-starforce/page/2/#findComment-587332175 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Sheldon Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Good old StarForce, taking away the feeling of guilt that comes from pirating... lol..nice one. :devil: And for anyone that _might_ be worried in case they have it. Check this out. http://www.glop.org/starforce/list.php Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/444707-new-version-of-starforce/page/2/#findComment-587332177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
»X« Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 (edited) Checkit http://www.glop.org/starforce/images/starf...icial-words.png He also can't spell. :p And you can't link huge images like that :p - timdorr Edited March 21, 2006 by ti -m ./dorr Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/444707-new-version-of-starforce/page/2/#findComment-587332183 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beastage Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 I dunno, seems reasonable to stop the spread of piracy. What how?!!! you're a coder and that sounds reasonable to you?! is it reasonable to jeopardize pc's because some stupid piece of code thinks its pirating?! btw Futuremark are not the ones who discovered but rather members on their forums. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/444707-new-version-of-starforce/page/2/#findComment-587332204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted March 21, 2006 Veteran Share Posted March 21, 2006 ... He also can't spell. :p Might be because he's Russian. :rolleyes: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/444707-new-version-of-starforce/page/2/#findComment-587332211 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Dorr Veteran Posted March 21, 2006 Veteran Share Posted March 21, 2006 What how?!!! you're a coder and that sounds reasonable to you?! is it reasonable to jeopardize pc's because some stupid piece of code thinks its pirating?! Ha! I was wondering when someone was going to fall for my trap :laugh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/444707-new-version-of-starforce/page/2/#findComment-587332229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheazel Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 I just LOVE Starforce. They give gameprotection a bad name, Games should start from there own power and ditch the gameprotection. Just like Oblivion. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/444707-new-version-of-starforce/page/2/#findComment-587332266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadrack Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 This is really sad. The people who pay their hard earned money are the losers. The pirates will just make a crack that removes the DRM protection and not have to deal with it at all. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/444707-new-version-of-starforce/page/2/#findComment-587332267 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beastage Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Ha! I was wondering when someone was going to fall for my trap :laugh: Trap eh? oh no you don't... you aren't getting away with it that easily Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/444707-new-version-of-starforce/page/2/#findComment-587332275 Share on other sites More sharing options...
quigley0 Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 I've found threads about removing starforce, but I assume that once you remove it the game no longer plays? Also, would it be against Neowin rules to ask for assistance in getting a game to work, without starforce installed? Like I said, I am not a Pirate, but, I feel that this software causes more harm than anything else. Some of the games on the list I actually like: trackmania, BoA, etc. It just sucks. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/444707-new-version-of-starforce/page/2/#findComment-587332296 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceminess Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 I've found threads about removing starforce, but I assume that once you remove it the game no longer plays? Also, would it be against Neowin rules to ask for assistance in getting a game to work, without starforce installed? Like I said, I am not a Pirate, but, I feel that this software causes more harm than anything else. Some of the games on the list I actually like: trackmania, BoA, etc. It just sucks. Posting that kind of stuff is risky for neowin. I would suggest places more like cdfreaks or daemon tools boards. I'm not going to link to their boards but a simple google search and you can find them. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/444707-new-version-of-starforce/page/2/#findComment-587332358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
djesteban Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 This kind of protection scheme should be illegal. It is just as bad as a virus IMHO. I still remember the problem I had when I wanted to install Splinter Cell Chaos Theory. Wouldn't run because I had virtual drives installed and I need those to mount image for my job. I was lucky though that I was able to get my money back. Trust me, I will never buy a game with that protection sheme EVER again, that's for sure. I hope Ubisoft won't use this protection again or i'll do my best to convince people in Montreal not to buy there games... even if it's made here. It's just a total disrespect to the customer... :no: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/444707-new-version-of-starforce/page/2/#findComment-587332436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gertin Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 WTF? Who needs to stop the piracy of a DEMO? :blink: They do it so that pirates don't use the unprotected demo .exe to run the full game. :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/444707-new-version-of-starforce/page/2/#findComment-587332478 Share on other sites More sharing options...
summers Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 If Starforce can gain access to Ring0 on Windows, virus writers can reverse engineer the code, learn how to gain access the same way, or even simpler, attack Starforce's code to enable their virus to hitch a ride on the system. In other words, if Starforce can be hacked (which it had many times), then Starforce is a serious backdoor to any system. Don't they have a law against this? Hopefully Vista doesn't allow anything to gain access to Ring0. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/444707-new-version-of-starforce/page/2/#findComment-587332507 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReAnimation Posted March 21, 2006 Author Share Posted March 21, 2006 Update: Its been confirmed by futuremark that they have not carried out any investigations into starforce themselves, it appears that the information came from members of futuremarks forums. More info here: http://www.futuremark.com/news/?newsarticl...0603/2006032104 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/444707-new-version-of-starforce/page/2/#findComment-587333009 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiall Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 They do it so that pirates don't use the unprotected demo .exe to run the full game. :) remembers tip for future lol cant this this going down very well :no: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/444707-new-version-of-starforce/page/2/#findComment-587333185 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos11 Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Let's wait for an ad-aware fix! :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/444707-new-version-of-starforce/page/2/#findComment-587333241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxconn287 Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 starforce is awesome u pirate u DIEEE Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/444707-new-version-of-starforce/page/2/#findComment-587333277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
soil Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 :whistle: sounds like a virus. starforce suck i hope this crap doesnt get put on SC4 :crazy: im not paying ?30 for a game with that crap on. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/444707-new-version-of-starforce/page/2/#findComment-587333282 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glowstick Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 How I remember it, every application using the Starforce driver can get access to kernel mode (aka Ring 0). Yay for that. Also, what's the fuzz about all this Ring 0 stuff anyway? Every damn driver in Windows runs in Ring 0. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/444707-new-version-of-starforce/page/2/#findComment-587333307 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePitt Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 New version of starforce Will be really "funny"/"nice"/"funky" (haha), when this crap takes the control via EFI :rolleyes: :blink: :pinch: :| Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/444707-new-version-of-starforce/page/2/#findComment-587334216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 The next version will just call the FBI and then they will just bust down your door when starforce suspects illegal activity :ninja: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/444707-new-version-of-starforce/page/2/#findComment-587334300 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Circaflex Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 wait, does FM make Starforce? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/444707-new-version-of-starforce/page/2/#findComment-587335020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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