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what do you guys make of all the reggie bush stuff? makes me laugh, but i was very sick of USC and their "dynasty" attitude (even though they only technically won 1 nat. champ.) so i'm glad this is all coming back to bite them in the ass. if what that agent guy says is true, it looks like reggie will be losing his heisman, his records and the 2004 national championship.

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Why are you glad that this is happening to USC? I know you aren't big on USC, but to take pleasure in something they didn't even do wrong is odd to me. This is soley on Reggie Bush and his family. This kind of thing can happen to any school. Should people have been happy that Michigan was stripped of their records after the Fab Five situation with a booster?

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Well method, USC is in a bigger hole than Bush. Their back up QB, and possibly starting QB Mark Sanchez was arrested for sexually assaulting a girl on campus and their two "stars" didn't fair well in the draft.

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yeah I know. The NCAA can't really touch Bush, except in record which probably doesn't mean anything to him. I just hate how people use incidents like this to take potshots at schools who may or may not have known about these types of problem. Even my old school, University of Arkansas, just came off of probation because a booster overpaid some players. Did the Hogs deserve for it to come back and bite them in the ass. I don't believe colleges should be soley responsible for all the situations. In USC case, if Bush's parents did accept extra benefits then they should be held responsible in some way. If Bush knew or was involved then he should be ruled ineligible from when the deal was signed. I don't believe in losing scholarships for whatever years in isloted cases.

When it rains it pours. Sanchez accused of sexual assalt, Lendale White with the positive drug test, and the Bush house, it just gets worse. I'm waiting for Booty to be out next season with an injury. Actually that is a good thing since they play Arkansas in the first game next year.

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yes, being a michigan fan, i've had to deal with my fair share. and trust me, nobody has ever held back when it came to us. so i'm not gonna feel sorry for anybody else. i know it's not always the kids fault, when you have people with money approaching poor athletes, what do you think they are gonna do? i'm just glad the ****** booster that was paying off the michigan athletes died. i wouldn't care as much if usc hadn't had so much BS hype surrounding them.

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I hate to double post, but Espn reported earlier than Dwanye Jarrett is under investigation by the NCAA concerning how much rent he paid when he lived with Matt Leinart. Leinart's dad said that Dwayne owes him 10 grand.

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are you serious? man, this is getting worse by the day. yeah, i agree with you about the punishment. i've heard that argument before too. IF there was a violation committed, the only people that are going to suffer are all the young students that flocked to USC to play football. they might even lose some scholorships or something.

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man, a $4000 a month apartment?? that must be nice...i wish my daddy showered me with riches.

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Well method, USC is in a bigger hole than Bush. Their back up QB, and possibly starting QB Mark Sanchez was arrested for sexually assaulting a girl on campus and their two "stars" didn't fair well in the draft.

Yeah. 2nd and 10th overall in the NFL draft. What a couple of loser hacks.

:rolleyes:

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Yeah. 2nd and 10th overall in the NFL draft. What a couple of loser hacks.

:rolleyes:

Yea, considering Bush was projected to be #1 for the past 6 months and Leinart was projected #1 last season :rolleyes:

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And

The Texans surprised just about everyone when they chose Williams. Bush couldn't help that the Texans felt that defense was a priority. Its not like there is much difference between going number one and number two. Leinart was more of a fall, but not as bad as Rodgers last year. Leinart probably would have gone number two before the Saints picked up Brees. Also, the Titans gm was set on Vince Young. The Jets did try to trade up to pick Leinart later, but the Lions wanted to much for their pick.

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The Jets wanted Leinart? I'm not too sure of that, since they had their eyes on Ferguson all pre-draft long so they can fix the left side of their OL.

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Yeah I don't know where you heard the Jets were going to pick up Leinart and living in Nashville I know for a fact that the Titans were anything but set on Vince Young.

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From the reports that I heard Floyd Reese wanted the draft VY while Jeff Fisher and Norm Chow wanted Matt Leinart.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/story/413600p-349704c.html

The Jets view left tackle D'Brickashaw Ferguson as the infrastructure for their offense. And after taking him with the fourth pick, they tried to construct a luxury high-rise around him: Matt Leinart.

Not long after picking Ferguson and passing on Leinart, the Daily News has learned, the Jets were furiously working the phones Saturday trying to move back into the top 10 to get the USC quarterback.

They held serious discussions with the Lions at No. 9, but were unwilling to meet Detroit's price. If GM Mike Tannenbaum had been able to get Leinart to go along with Ferguson, it would have been the the most productive draft day in Jets' history.

Predraft speculation was that the Jets had Vanderbilt's Jay Cutler rated over Leinart, but sources insist the Jets had Leinart listed over Cutler. Leinart was definitely whom the Jets were targeting when negotiating with Detroit.

The Lions were willing to move down to the No. 29 spot, the second of the Jets' two No. 1 picks, which they had acquired in the John Abraham trade. The Jets offered that pick, plus their third-round pick at No. 71, for No. 9, clearly not enough. But when the Lions demanded the Jets' second-round pick (35th) in addition to the first- and third-rounders, talks broke down and the Lions selected linebacker Ernie Sims.

The cost to move up the 20 spots is more than the 29th and 71st picks, and the Jets surely knew that, but their unwillingless to part with the second-rounder didn't leave any room for negotiating. If the Jets had given up those three picks, the Lions would have had to part with a later pick to make things even on the draft value chart all teams use.

At the same time they were talking to the Lions, the Jets called the Cardinals, who were picking 10th. But Arizona had no interest in trading. For good reason, of course. They took Leinart themselves.

The Jets never were interested in taking Leinart with the fourth pick. They felt they couldn't pass up Ferguson, who plays the most important position on the offensive line. But the Jets obviously liked Leinart enough that they tried to double-dip in the top 10.

Even so, passing on Leinart at No. 4 was a mistake. They could have rectified that by making the trade with Detroit. If the Jets had been able to squeeze the Falcons for their own No. 1 pick (15th) in the Abraham trade - they didn't get enough for him - they would have had enough ammunition to pull off the trade with Detroit. Ironically, the Broncos, who wound up with that Atlanta pick in the three-way Abraham deal, moved up from that spot to the Rams' No. 11 spot and took Cutler. The price: a third-round pick, No. 68.

The Jets' chances of getting Leinart improved when the Raiders passed on him at No. 7 to take Texas safety Michael Huff, the player the Lions wanted. The Jets never had to worry about Lions GM Matt Millen taking Leinart. Detroit is still having Joey Harrington nightmares. Detroit was the highest team on the board the Jets called.

Fifteen years ago, the Jets desperately tried to trade up for Brett Favre. They couldn't get a deal done and Favre went one spot ahead of them to the Falcons. The Jets took Browning Nagle. If Leinart becomes an All-Pro, the Jets will regret passing on him and then not paying enough when they had a second chance.

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