jokeripa Posted May 29, 2006 Share Posted May 29, 2006 pwnt Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/462939-sony-bmg-offers-lordi-mp3s-from-illegal-source/page/2/#findComment-587555094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iconoclast Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 I don't fully understand what is going on, but HA! anyways :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/462939-sony-bmg-offers-lordi-mp3s-from-illegal-source/page/2/#findComment-587556053 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malisk Posted May 31, 2006 Share Posted May 31, 2006 The site is probably run by Sony BMG given the logos and the contact address at the bottom. Well I don't know what it said when you looked, but to me it just shows the Sony logo next to the finnish maintainers. You don't think they could've uploaded it on the site when they made it? Seems more than plausible to me. :huh: But yes, Sony BMG is their music company, not that I'm sure that has to do with anything. From Kulstad's info, it seems like SiteFactory is more like the culprit here, as it's on their servers. That doesn't have to mean anything either though, but it should be a stronger link than to Sony. Sony may be annoyed about this though as it connects them with P2P. ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/462939-sony-bmg-offers-lordi-mp3s-from-illegal-source/page/2/#findComment-587559952 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guol Posted May 31, 2006 Share Posted May 31, 2006 A conspiracy at our hands, we have :whistle: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/462939-sony-bmg-offers-lordi-mp3s-from-illegal-source/page/2/#findComment-587560085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxconn287 Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 Nothing is going to happen to stop getting all giddy :mystery: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/462939-sony-bmg-offers-lordi-mp3s-from-illegal-source/page/2/#findComment-587562562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
179037_1437846311 Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 Fun with Sony BMG & MP3 metadata Finnish Eurovision entry for 2006, Lordi, has a small website at http://eurovision.lordi.org/ with some interesting info. The site is probably run by Sony BMG given the logos and the contact address at the bottom. Nice part is the "Video&Music" department. Direct link to audio player is http://eurovision.lordi.org/main.site?acti...e/view&id=8 or only for the SWF part of the player http://eurovision.lordi.org/flash/lordi_mediaplayer.swf First thing to impress me was the good quality of sound right from the beginning. Usually one can hear at best only low-quality 96/128kbps MP3 or WMA samples from official sources. I noticed that my browser of choice, Opera, created a real MP3 file to its cache directory when the first song started (192kbps MP3 file for "Hard Rock Hallelujah"). Nice, I thought, one could easily copy the few files to hard drive/MP3 player. Just for future reference, I wanted to dig up the complete URL of the downloaded song. Opera or Firefox didn't show this info easily, so I quickly checked the SWF file, no metadata in plaintext. A little googling revealed that there exists some kind of SWF extractors/decoders. I tried out "Action Script Viewer" demo from http://www.buraks.com/asv/1.html which could extract the SWF file to some extent (after several complaints, though). ASV demo spitted out SWF action script lines as below: stage.showmenu = false; mp3player = new Mp3Player (); mp3player.setVol(0); mp3player.setMaxVol(30); mp3player.setLooping(true); mp3player.setAutoplay(true); mp3player.setFadeIn(true); volslider.hslider._x = mp3player.getVol(); cb_songlist.addItem("Hard Rock Hallelujah", "/flash/hard_rock_hallelujah.mp3"); mp3player.addSong("/flash/hard_rock_hallelujah.mp3", 0); cb_songlist.addItem("Devil Is a Loser", "/flash/devil_is_a_loser.mp3"); mp3player.addSong("/flash/devil_is_a_loser.mp3", 0); cb_songlist.addItem("Would You Love a Monsterman", "/flash/would_you_love_a_monsterman.mp3"); mp3player.addSong("/flash/would_you_love_a_monsterman.mp3", 0); cb_songlist.addItem("Devil Is a Loser.mp3", "/flash/devil_is_a_loser.mp3"); mp3player.addSong("/flash/devil_is_a_loser.mp3", 0); cb_songlist.addItem("Blood Red Sandman", "/flash/blood_red_sandman.mp3"); mp3player.addSong("/flash/blood_red_sandman.mp3", 0); So, the URLs were not encrypted or obfuscated in any way. One could save the songs easily with e.g. browser or wget as below, using the complete URLs. wget http://eurovision.lordi.org/flash/hard_rock_hallelujah.mp3 wget http://eurovision.lordi.org/flash/devil_is_a_loser.mp3 wget http://eurovision.lordi.org/flash/would_yo..._monsterman.mp3 wget http://eurovision.lordi.org/flash/blood_red_sandman.mp3 The metadata for the songs are as below blood_red_sandman.mp3 [3 897 344 bytes, 128kbps MP3] GENRE = Other TRACKNUMBER = 03 TITLE = lordi-bloodredsandman devil_is_a_loser.mp3 [6 769 523 bytes, 256kbps MP3] TITLE = Devil Is A Loser ARTIST = Lordi ALBUM = The Monster Show COMMENT = www.GrupoeMusica.com TRACKNUMBER = 6 GENRE = Hard Rock hard_rock_hallelujah.mp3 [5 942 418 bytes, 192kbps MP3] TITLE = hard r hallelujah ALBUM = 3rd lopullinen masteri ARTIST = LODRI TRACKNUMBER = 7/12 ENCODERSETTINGS = Audiograbber 1.83.01, LAME dll 3.93, 192 Kbit/s, Stereo, High quality would_you_love_a_monsterman.mp3 [2 956 643 bytes, 128kbps MP3] TITLE = 06 GENRE = Blues Hmm. Nice, free MP3s, no DRM crap, unfortunately 2 MP3s out of 4 were of inferior quality. And they can't spell LORDI correctly, have to fix the tags for own use. And.. what's that.. the best-quality file "devil_is_a_loser.mp3" has comment field "www.GrupoeMusica.com". Let's check.. a P2P music site? [speechless] Yep. Spanish site offering direct ed2k-links to full songs, albums, etc. Shame on you, Sony BMG for downloading your artists' own music from P2P networks, hope you get sued!!! And are these mp3-s legal? :blink: So can everybody download them? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/462939-sony-bmg-offers-lordi-mp3s-from-illegal-source/page/2/#findComment-587840936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
crimsonhead Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 No, these are: http://sitefactory.epte.fi/flash/hard_rock_hallelujah.mp3 http://sitefactory.epte.fi/flash/devil_is_a_loser.mp3 http://sitefactory.epte.fi/flash/would_you..._monsterman.mp3 http://sitefactory.epte.fi/flash/blood_red_sandman.mp3 Legal as in Sony is offering them, so you can take them? Yes Legal as in Sony aquired them from legal sources? No Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/462939-sony-bmg-offers-lordi-mp3s-from-illegal-source/page/2/#findComment-587840975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
179037_1437846311 Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 No, these are: http://sitefactory.epte.fi/flash/hard_rock_hallelujah.mp3 http://sitefactory.epte.fi/flash/devil_is_a_loser.mp3 http://sitefactory.epte.fi/flash/would_you..._monsterman.mp3 http://sitefactory.epte.fi/flash/blood_red_sandman.mp3 Legal as in Sony is offering them, so you can take them? Yes Legal as in Sony aquired them from legal sources? No ? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/462939-sony-bmg-offers-lordi-mp3s-from-illegal-source/page/2/#findComment-587843435 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gowcra Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 lovely :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/462939-sony-bmg-offers-lordi-mp3s-from-illegal-source/page/2/#findComment-587843467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gowcra Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 lovely :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/462939-sony-bmg-offers-lordi-mp3s-from-illegal-source/page/2/#findComment-587843468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulCabby Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 HARD ROCK HALLEUJAH! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/462939-sony-bmg-offers-lordi-mp3s-from-illegal-source/page/2/#findComment-587843482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
crimsonhead Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 ?The links you copied didn't work, so I pasted the working ones from the other page. Sony apparently downloaded the mp3s from a P2P network. Thats the point. Lordi sucks. :devil:: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/462939-sony-bmg-offers-lordi-mp3s-from-illegal-source/page/2/#findComment-587843528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToneKnee Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 Well done in resurrecting a 2month+ old thread! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/462939-sony-bmg-offers-lordi-mp3s-from-illegal-source/page/2/#findComment-587843646 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlerner Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 nm didn't look at the posting date. :whistle: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/462939-sony-bmg-offers-lordi-mp3s-from-illegal-source/page/2/#findComment-587844640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corris Veteran Posted September 2, 2006 Veteran Share Posted September 2, 2006 Done and done. :whistle: http://digg.com/music/Sony_BMG_using_illegally_obtained_mp3s why did u put it on digg if its already on there? http://www.digg.com/music/Sony_BMG_hosting_MP3_from_P2P_Site Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/462939-sony-bmg-offers-lordi-mp3s-from-illegal-source/page/2/#findComment-587844652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 Sony at it once again, LOL :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/462939-sony-bmg-offers-lordi-mp3s-from-illegal-source/page/2/#findComment-587845096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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