jerry Posted August 8, 2006 Author Share Posted August 8, 2006 It's like I said...when Sony sells out of it's initial batch (likely, despite Sony's blunders), and the PS3 isn't on the shelves for X-mas, look what two consoles will be in abundance on the shelves... -Spenser I'm guessing there will be shortages for both PS3 (massive) and 360, unless Microsoft has been secretly stockpiling (cough*Spartan*cough). Great launch library + Cheapest price point + Good availability = :devil: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/484974-rumored-wii-launch-date-price-details/page/2/#findComment-587767676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Teej Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 A handheld with GameCube discs would be a pretty stupid idea. The discs are too big for a handheld, there's no casing on them, they're programmed for a higher resolution than a Nintendo portable screen would have, and would have a battery life worse than PSP. With that said, I doubt Nintendo would do it. As for the $229 price, well, that's an expensive controller. GameCubes sell for $75 with a game over here. If Microsoft bundle a memory card with the Core 360, it may turn some potential buyers. If there is a game or two controllers bundled with the Wii, then the price would make more sense. Then again, the price is still a rumour. Also, the article is back on IGN, albeit minus the CPU talk. Actually you're thinking of a Gamecube Handheld, not a handheld that uses Gamecube discs. The format doesn't determine the resolution, the hardware does. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/484974-rumored-wii-launch-date-price-details/page/2/#findComment-587767779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaPrime Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 Actually you're thinking of a Gamecube Handheld, not a handheld that uses Gamecube discs. Is there a difference? Surely the idea of a handheld that uses GameCube games is to play the entire collection. The format doesn't determine the resolution, the hardware does. Yes, but GameCube games are made to optimise a higher resolution (just like DS games are made directly for a much smaller resolution). On a small screen and a resolution half the size (or less), things can get too small, such as text and HUD. There's also the other problems I mentioned. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/484974-rumored-wii-launch-date-price-details/page/2/#findComment-587767861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PL_ Veteran Posted August 8, 2006 Veteran Share Posted August 8, 2006 Heh, there was talk of Nintendo wanting to do a "portable gamecube" as their new gameboy. Personally, I think it'd be great. You could play the new GBE games either on the GBE, the Wii or the Gamecube all out of the box. At the same time, you could play Gamecube games on the GBE. Lets face it. The Gamecube Interface is roughly the same as the DS's with the exception of two analogue sticks and a Z button, which would could easily be added. Personally, I'm actually more intrested in the portable gamecube handheld then the Wii price XD Y'know what I would love? Something along the lines of the DS, that was backwards compatible with Gameboy. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/484974-rumored-wii-launch-date-price-details/page/2/#findComment-587768144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAbad28 Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 Yes! Haha, can't wait until this thing comes out! It look's sweeeeet! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/484974-rumored-wii-launch-date-price-details/page/2/#findComment-587768157 Share on other sites More sharing options...
savedandfamous Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 It's launch lineup is looking seriously amazing. Now that Super Mario Gaxaly is once again (circa E3 05, and NoA recent comments) "possible" for launch it's even better. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/484974-rumored-wii-launch-date-price-details/page/2/#findComment-587768362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spenser.d Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 A handheld with GameCube discs would be a pretty stupid idea. The discs are too big for a handheld, there's no casing on them, they're programmed for a higher resolution than a Nintendo portable screen would have, and would have a battery life worse than PSP. With that said, I doubt Nintendo would do it. As for the $229 price, well, that's an expensive controller. GameCubes sell for $75 with a game over here. If Microsoft bundle a memory card with the Core 360, it may turn some potential buyers. If there is a game or two controllers bundled with the Wii, then the price would make more sense. Then again, the price is still a rumour. Also, the article is back on IGN, albeit minus the CPU talk. What's wrong with that price. It's probably the cheapest you'll have gotten a console for at launch in ages (inflation adjusted). That's pretty sweet-looking to a lot of people. -Spenser Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/484974-rumored-wii-launch-date-price-details/page/2/#findComment-587768398 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdsams Veteran Posted August 8, 2006 Veteran Share Posted August 8, 2006 $229 is a good price point IMHO for the wii and i think it will do very well at that price as well... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/484974-rumored-wii-launch-date-price-details/page/2/#findComment-587768446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaPrime Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 What's wrong with that price. It's probably the cheapest you'll have gotten a console for at launch in ages (inflation adjusted). That's pretty sweet-looking to a lot of people. I can't blame Nintendo for wanting to make a profit on the hardware. But when you see current gen consoles producing the same graphic quality for half the price or less, it's just not that great value. When you compare it to the competition, it's cheap. It's just that the price for the technology is a bit much. Let's hope the remote is worth it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/484974-rumored-wii-launch-date-price-details/page/2/#findComment-587768721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Teej Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 Is there a difference? Surely the idea of a handheld that uses GameCube games is to play the entire collection. Yes, but GameCube games are made to optimise a higher resolution (just like DS games are made directly for a much smaller resolution). On a small screen and a resolution half the size (or less), things can get too small, such as text and HUD. There's also the other problems I mentioned. 1) Yes, there is. You don't know for sure what Nintendo is up to. Besides, even if it is a GCN handheld, so what? It's obviously based off of the Wii hardware (as indiciated by the "Reduced powered version" tag in the article), and Satoru Iwata states that the Wii is very power consumption friendly. Considering this won't be released until at least Xmas 2007 (although you're more likely lookng at Xmas 2008), Nintendo could easily find a way to make batteries a hell of a lot more powerful. Right now, The DS Lite Battery stands at 6-9 hours play on the brightest setting, and 19 hours on the lightest. Now, while I realise the DS is now Gamecube handheld, who's to say Nintendo won't figure out a way to make the DS Lite battery last longer, or slightly bigger to allow more power consumption? Who's to say the new GCN Handheld could potentially allow two batteries? 2) Fair enough, although I feel that looking into a 5" screen on a handheld is a bit different to looking into 5" TV (you pay more attention to detail). Besides, this is IF Nintendo plans a GCN handheld. They might just wanna use it as the new Nintendo handheld medium. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/484974-rumored-wii-launch-date-price-details/page/2/#findComment-587768743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaPrime Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 1) Yes, there is. You don't know for sure what Nintendo is up to. Besides, even if it is a GCN handheld, so what? It's obviously based off of the Wii hardware (as indiciated by the "Reduced powered version" tag in the article), and Satoru Iwata states that the Wii is very power consumption friendly. Considering this won't be released until at least Xmas 2007 (although you're more likely lookng at Xmas 2008), Nintendo could easily find a way to make batteries a hell of a lot more powerful. Right now, The DS Lite Battery stands at 6-9 hours play on the brightest setting, and 19 hours on the lightest. Now, while I realise the DS is now Gamecube handheld, who's to say Nintendo won't figure out a way to make the DS Lite battery last longer, or slightly bigger to allow more power consumption? Who's to say the new GCN Handheld could potentially allow two batteries? I think Nintendo would make a handheld as powerful as the GameCube in a couple of years, but I don't see it using GameCube discs. GC discs are around 40% bigger than UMD discs and they would push the unit to around 10cm by 10cm (that's assuming it would be a clam shell, much wider if it isn't) which is somewhat fat for a handheld. Wii hardware is based off GameCube hardware, so it makes sense to use a lower clocked Wii CPU. DS doesn't use optical discs so it's battery life is much better. Nintendo could include a bigger battery since the handheld would be a lot bigger than normal. Although fitting two analog sticks and all the controls in a square shape could really cramp the hand when playing. 2) Fair enough, although I feel that looking into a 5" screen on a handheld is a bit different to looking into 5" TV (you pay more attention to detail). Besides, this is IF Nintendo plans a GCN handheld. They might just wanna use it as the new Nintendo handheld medium. Well a 5" screen is quite big for a handheld console, especially considering that it would need to be in 4:3 to play all of the GameCube games properly. 4" would have to be the maximum. Basically GameCube was not meant to be turned into a portable system. I do not see Nintendo using GC discs for a new handheld, because they're just not handheld-friendly. If Nintendo do turn to discs (oh the irony) they should be 6cm maximum. Although, 1GB flash cards are getting much cheaper, in two years time they may only cost like $5-$10, which would be the better alternative. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/484974-rumored-wii-launch-date-price-details/page/2/#findComment-587768851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiracyX Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 $230 = ?120 AMAZING. I dont think it will be a straight conversion, as we in UK always get crippled with excess charges on top meaning we will pay more for it, something like ?130-?140. who knows. I am looking forward to this considering its going to be so cheap. I wonder how much the games are going to cost tho..... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/484974-rumored-wii-launch-date-price-details/page/2/#findComment-587768885 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragingtoad Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 Alot of people gonna be dissappointed when its officially $299 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/484974-rumored-wii-launch-date-price-details/page/2/#findComment-587768903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
trix Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 Alot of people gonna be dissappointed when its officially $299 why'd you say its going to be $299? i'm personally hoping for under ?200 + 1 game :DD although i doubt it will be, or i'll want most of the games that come out on the release date :pinch:: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/484974-rumored-wii-launch-date-price-details/page/2/#findComment-587769159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Teej Posted August 9, 2006 Share Posted August 9, 2006 Alot of people gonna be dissappointed when its officially $299 Moronic Anti-fanboy... I will put good money that a standard Wii system (i.e. no games or crap like that) will cost $299. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/484974-rumored-wii-launch-date-price-details/page/2/#findComment-587770050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaPrime Posted August 9, 2006 Share Posted August 9, 2006 Moronic Anti-fanboy... I will put good money that a standard Wii system (i.e. no games or crap like that) will cost $299. You mean $199 right? Either that or you forgot to add 'not'. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/484974-rumored-wii-launch-date-price-details/page/2/#findComment-587770104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
morficus Posted August 9, 2006 Share Posted August 9, 2006 i already have my Wii fund ready and i'll be buying it as soon as they release it :) I'm glad Nintendo made their console quite affordable. I'll definately buy one at the launch day. Yup yup yup. I'm looking out for pre-orders as well. I'll be sitting at the door when this baby hits the market :yes: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/484974-rumored-wii-launch-date-price-details/page/2/#findComment-587770134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Teej Posted August 9, 2006 Share Posted August 9, 2006 You mean $199 right? Either that or you forgot to add 'not'. Hosnap, I meant NOT be $299 XD Sorry, quoting noobs makes me noobish at times :( Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/484974-rumored-wii-launch-date-price-details/page/2/#findComment-587770409 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bei337 Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 Aw man I was expecting it to be $199.99 :whistle: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/484974-rumored-wii-launch-date-price-details/page/2/#findComment-587772028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dt Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 229 might confuse people and might make them think it's 299 (case in point: this thread) so ... maybe a 199 launch is likely Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/484974-rumored-wii-launch-date-price-details/page/2/#findComment-587773720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shetland Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 can i ask why the gamecube is abbriviated to GCN, where does the N come from? i find it silly. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/484974-rumored-wii-launch-date-price-details/page/2/#findComment-587774354 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerus Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 Its just to make it 3 letters, like everything else. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/484974-rumored-wii-launch-date-price-details/page/2/#findComment-587774504 Share on other sites More sharing options...
trix Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 never heard it abbreviated to GCN always NGC.. asin Nintendo GameCube :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/484974-rumored-wii-launch-date-price-details/page/2/#findComment-587775086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gfunk4life Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 http://www.megagames.com/news/html/console...stusd4999.shtml i think this will help sales more Wii Games To Cost USD 49.99. even with the consoles costing 229.99 the 49.99 for a game is better Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/484974-rumored-wii-launch-date-price-details/page/2/#findComment-587775644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matrix XII Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 never heard it abbreviated to GCN always NGC.. asin Nintendo GameCube :p I've never heard it NGC.. for some reason it's always been GCN. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/484974-rumored-wii-launch-date-price-details/page/2/#findComment-587775795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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