bachjoy Posted November 11, 2002 Share Posted November 11, 2002 I was surfing some Macintosh rumor websites, and came accross this program. 3dosx. Although it is clumsy to use, it looks great in concept. Does anyone know if there is any similar thing for Windows XP. I found a few 3d desktops by searching google, but none of them have the polish that this macintosh shell replacement had. Also on that note, other than a lightstep or afterstep, is there any shell replacement for Windows that has the wow look both in functionality and in looks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeR Posted November 11, 2002 Share Posted November 11, 2002 that's cool....I know there are a bunch of apps like that for windows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Dorr Veteran Posted November 11, 2002 Veteran Share Posted November 11, 2002 i dunno about a windows version, but that looks cool. I don't see how it would be all that hard to port either.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thornz0 Posted November 11, 2002 Share Posted November 11, 2002 this one is similar in nature, but it seems more focused on a theme than normal gui: 3dna i know ive seen a few others in the past, but im not sure where to get em anymore. Also on that note, other than a lightstep or afterstep, is there any shell replacement for Windows that has the wow look both in functionality and in looks. ive heard good things about talisman 2, but havent tried it. Desktop X is very easy to use, but isnt a shell replacement so that may not be what your looking for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xahid Posted November 11, 2002 Share Posted November 11, 2002 How about 3DNA Desktop & Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aleni Posted November 12, 2002 Share Posted November 12, 2002 3d desktop? i think its not a good idea, hard to use, err probably easy when u get used to it, but come on, it takes time to discover things there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deron Dantzler Posted November 12, 2002 Share Posted November 12, 2002 pretty innovative...i won't be using it, but i might install just to see what it looks like. i bet the graphics aren't as good as the screenshots :). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Fahim S. MVC Posted November 12, 2002 MVC Share Posted November 12, 2002 How about 3DNA Desktop & I've used this.... and it is actually very intuitive....... also very customizable but it doesn't replace the shell all-together.... it's like a crazy version of the quick launch bar.... but really crazy...... Peeeeeeeeez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aleni Posted November 12, 2002 Share Posted November 12, 2002 lmao, crazy version of quick launch :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bachjoy Posted November 12, 2002 Author Share Posted November 12, 2002 Thanks thornz0 and xahid. I downloaded the 3dna desktop and it looked pretty cool, and actually works pretty good. Although I do believe that they have to come a long way before it is good enough for everyday use. As you were saying lean & aleni, all it really is, is a quick launch bar, except it takes longer to open somthing than just simply clicking a button at the top (or bottom) of your screen. Who knows what the desktop will be like in 15 years, as microsoft, I believe, has been quoted as saying that they want to move on from the old desktop metaphor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cub-x Posted November 12, 2002 Share Posted November 12, 2002 Actually, Microsoft _HAS_ a 3D desktop.. But unfortunatly only as screenshot on their internal research team. I found a page, about a year ago, where Microsoft told on their developer site they were researching different kind of desktops (including a 3D one). But still not released any of them :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MxxCon Posted November 13, 2002 Share Posted November 13, 2002 personaly i don't think 3d desktops will be usable untill "default" screen resolutions increase alot..to like 1600x1200+ so all those icons far away will still be readable/recognizable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jardragon901 Posted November 13, 2002 Share Posted November 13, 2002 personaly i don't think 3d desktops will be usable untill "default" screen resolutions increase alot..to like 1600x1200+ so all those icons far away will still be readable/recognizable. I agree, also it would help if people had better video cards(a voodoo 3 is crap, no matter what people try to tell you). I wish game makers would just stop supporting anything less than a Geforce 2 eqivalent(sp?), becuase even a geforce 3 can be found for under $100 usd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Fahim S. MVC Posted November 13, 2002 MVC Share Posted November 13, 2002 Actually, Microsoft _HAS_ a 3D desktop.. But unfortunatly only as screenshot on their internal research team. I found a page, about a year ago, where Microsoft told on their developer site they were researching different kind of desktops (including a 3D one). But still not released any of them :( yep.... you can see it here.... TaskGallery.... I watched a presentation on it... and it seems that MS are thinking more deeply than how do we make windows 3d..... Peeeeeeeeeeez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kagaku Posted November 13, 2002 Share Posted November 13, 2002 Personally, I don't see a need for a 3D desktop/shell. What advantages does it offer over 2D shells? Aside from looking pretty, they're really hard to use most of the time, and use alot of resources up. I'd rather go with an extremely customizable 2D shell, such as LiteStep, GeoShell, or Blackbox, all of which completely own explorer :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Fahim S. MVC Posted November 13, 2002 MVC Share Posted November 13, 2002 Personally, I don't see a need for a 3D desktop/shell. What advantages does it offer over 2D shells? Aside from looking pretty, they're really hard to use most of the time, and use alot of resources up. I'd rather go with an extremely customizable 2D shell, such as LiteStep, GeoShell, or Blackbox, all of which completely own explorer :D If you read the stuff under the link I posted you'd see that microsoft agree with you... they reckon that most of the time we will still work 2d, one app, full screen and they are probably right..... Peeeeeeeeeeeez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leedogg Posted November 13, 2002 Share Posted November 13, 2002 Actually. Instead of having a complete 3d shell, why not just have 3d navigation? for example take mobydock or yz dock and instead of a single bar, make it a 3d ring that you can rotate around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnalogRival Posted November 15, 2002 Share Posted November 15, 2002 Hm, 3D desktop reminds me of Microsoft Bob. Oh the horror.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Fahim S. MVC Posted November 15, 2002 MVC Share Posted November 15, 2002 Hm, 3D desktop reminds me of Microsoft Bob.Oh the horror.... WTF is M$ Bob? Peeeeeeeez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowzer Posted November 15, 2002 Share Posted November 15, 2002 Where a 3D shell is good at is enhancing your daily use with windows, so long as it doesn't detract. The new project microsoft has been working on is info-bowl, which is close to that OSX3D shell post first in this thread. Microsoft has realized that fancy 3d complete worlds aren't productive to power users. Having 3d shelves in a fancy 3d room to put files is something microsoft tried with microsoft bob. Albeit it was on a more 2d level. Where microsoft will use 3d effects is in manipulating and working or navigating files, as-well as enhanced effects for minimizing/maximizing etc. This is not a new concept either, as the first 3d file navigator was by sgi called 3dfsn. It made its appearance in the movie jurassic park. Another area where 3d works on the desktop is volume. Normally your windows that are open have 3 states, minimized, maximized, or restored up/down to a specific size. You can title multiple windows on your desktop but only on a 2D layer. The demo I saw allowed windows to not only be on the desktop in the normal fashion, but also instead of being minimized to make room, they could be pushed back, the further back they go, the more they are scaled down. Giving the feeling your monitor and desktop has volume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClintEastman Posted November 15, 2002 Share Posted November 15, 2002 What microsoft is planing to do (as far as i can remember) is use the gpu to render the gui, in other words it would use flat, textured polygons on a 2D plane. Resulting in very flexable, very fast (pretend your gona have a NV30 by the time Longhorn's out) gui with lots of fancy effects! :woot: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twist Posted November 15, 2002 Share Posted November 15, 2002 hmm, i wouldn't use a 3d gui. explorer takes enough resources to run, imagine if it was 3d. yeesh it'd take like 500mb of memory. i feel that 3d desktops are something like desktopX, it's there, but doesn't reall improve anything, just looks different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnalogRival Posted November 15, 2002 Share Posted November 15, 2002 Hm, 3D desktop reminds me of Microsoft Bob.Oh the horror.... WTF is M$ Bob? Peeeeeeeez Do a search on the net. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeza Posted November 15, 2002 Share Posted November 15, 2002 3d desktops......nice idea has anyone ever used a program called Activeworlds or something like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dashel Posted November 16, 2002 Share Posted November 16, 2002 It doesn't seem like a 3D interface will be particularly usefull untill we have an interface device that can interact in 3 dimensions as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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