Build 5734 Released to Testers

[primexx]

Sorry, NDA.

i'm pretty sure you already breached that.

[PyX]

Thanks for posting, I want it!

@PsykX, go ask Nvidia and ATI, it's more their fault and not Microsoft's. Damn video drivers.

lol well it's not really nVidia or ATI's fault because they are responsible for the graphics that appear on the screen when you play a game only, not for what's running on the background. I know what you mean though, it's up to them to make the next-gen video cards compatible with DX10.0

On the other hand, MS was supposed to disable most of the services when you play a game, I haven't heard about this feature being cut nor implemented. If, indeed they shut down all the useless services in the background, it can give more CPU usage, RAM usage and more Disk usage to spend on the games! That's like one of the only features in Vista that really did surprise me, that and DX10, so I hope it's not removed.

[Randolph]

i'm pretty sure you already breached that.

Oh man...the NDA has BEEN breached this Vista was a fetus. You didn't know? :huh: :rolleyes:

/sarcasm

I really wish we could stop with the "No. Can't discuss because of NDA." crap. :angry:

[zeta]

lol well it's not really nVidia or ATI's fault because they are responsible for the graphics that appear on the screen when you play a game only, not for what's running on the background. I know what you mean though, it's up to them to make the next-gen video cards compatible with DX10.0

On the other hand, MS was supposed to disable most of the services when you play a game, I haven't heard about this feature being cut nor implemented. If, indeed they shut down all the useless services in the background, it can give more CPU usage, RAM usage and more Disk usage to spend on the games! That's like one of the only features in Vista that really did surprise me, that and DX10, so I hope it's not removed.

Err. ATI and nVidia's display drivers are *always* active when you've installed them. If anything is appearing at all on your screen, you're using them. I've had a few random blue screens using ATI's RC1 beta drivers, when I just go to hit switch user or the like. It's a bit of a nuisance. I haven't had time to debug the minidump yet, but I'm pretty sure it's ATI's fault... since it doesn't happen with the stock drivers that come with Windows =)

[Randolph]

I can't edit my previous post but I mean't "since Vista" *.

- tired :/

[RaisinCain]

Uh, no... It's a DVD- Digital Versatile Disc. Not a compact disk (CD).

[funkyblue]

Anyone actually been able to download it yet?>

[1Frothy]

Just out of curiosity, how do you know this? It's less than a month from RTMing, why would we get another build? TAP testers are the real beta testers, they'll get more builds, but I don't see why we would.

What do you mean real beta testers? That's insulting to those of us on the techbeta that work very hard and may I add for free in an effort to make Windows Vista decent.

Beta Testers will get at least another build before RTM.

[Elliot B.]

Uh, no... It's a DVD- Digital Versatile Disc. Not a compact disk (CD).

I was being pedantic. A DVD is a disc, that is compact :p

[hajj_3]

hopefully there may be 1 more build released to normal testers as there are still quite a few issues with 5728.

/me prays that vista is delayed by 1 month so that it becomes a lot more bug free :)

[Jazket]

Very good talk indeed. The only thing is you all already left the 5734 subject far away from being the central poin of the conversation. DVD is meaning? and Compact Disks???? NDA?? Oh I know why, is it because there are no screenshots of the build available yet?

:laugh:

[xxdesmus]

^^ check the front page... Paul's got some screenies for us, no changes.

[Max Veteran]

^^ check the front page... Paul's got some screenies for us, no changes.

Thats 5728. Older build.

[xxdesmus]

^^ Oh my bad, you're right. I looked at it this morning when I was still half asleep :blink: :laugh:

I hate Paul anyways :whistle:

[funkyblue]

I have a feeling this build is fake. No other sites have mentioned it, and no one has confirmed that they have downloaded it..I smell a rat!

[M118LR]

What do you mean real beta testers? That's insulting to those of us on the techbeta that work very hard and may I add for free in an effort to make Windows Vista decent.

Beta Testers will get at least another build before RTM.

TAP is the top dog, always has been. They get weekly builds as stated. Tech Beta maybe one a month if you are lucky. Tech Beta is due to get one more build. For TAP, they could get four more builds. So who is more important ? Looks to be TAP.

[biznotch]

would be nice to see some screenshots... not that anything will really change that much at this late stage (unfortunately). wondering when they will put the sounds in finally??

[BoDEAN]

would be nice to see some screenshots... not that anything will really change that much at this late stage (unfortunately). wondering when they will put the sounds in finally??

Every post with a vista build screenshot looks the same, just a different build on the bottom left. Not much to get excited about over that bud

[Jeston Veteran]

Every post with a vista build screenshot looks the same, just a different build on the bottom left. Not much to get excited about over that bud

I believe you mean bottom right ;)

[ic1male]

DirectX 10 is not backwards compatible so it won't appear on XP. Games will be made that offer a DX9 or a DX10 path which will be in accordance with your OS and hardware.

[MarvnDuran]

I will wait a little before there's a stable build and can't wait to test it in Boot Camp :p

All I wanna know is will it play games better? I know nobody has an answer on this, but still. I want the question answered asap by microsoft... I mean, all I will do on Windows is play games and some of my work with office 2007. Otherwise, I never use Windows.

Actually over at www.winsupersite.com Paul has done quite a bit of testing on games. According to him HL2, Doom 3 and others run as good or better than XP.

Google a bit before making asumptions.

[SFkilla]

Actually over at www.winsupersite.com Paul has done quite a bit of testing on games. According to him HL2, Doom 3 and others run as good or better than XP.

Google a bit before making asumptions.

I'm not sure about this... :huh:

Its true that since RC1 game speed have increased but its definitely less framerate in Vista than in xp for the same games. But with some games its hard to feel the difference.

Ex: Farcry runs around 55fps in Xp for me and it runs around 45fps in vista 5728.

Actually i even found a link were they tested ATi & Nvidia on vista & Xp here:

Source of the benchmark here:Click me!

[Randolph]

Drivers aren't optimized yet.

[SFkilla]

Drivers aren't optimized yet.

Exactly...

[Kristian]

Exactly...

:D Well of course they aren't, but lets not think that Vistas gaming experience will increase 30+ % with just better drivers