f0rbez Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 This is already included in ryamvm's update pack, if you use it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/501985-ht-and-dual-core-users-read/page/2/#findComment-587940771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NienorGT Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 Just came back from BF2142, Titan floor is ok here, I think I have few FPS more now... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/501985-ht-and-dual-core-users-read/page/2/#findComment-587940779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Greeno~ Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 HyperThreading - 2 logical processors. 1 Physical and 1 Logical Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/501985-ht-and-dual-core-users-read/page/2/#findComment-587941051 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted October 9, 2006 Veteran Share Posted October 9, 2006 I disable HT/Dual Core/Etc to get maximum performance on my primary cpu. Games work the best in this configuration. Thanks for the patch tho, already knew it was out, but R3/4 already? Dayum! If anything, i could see that slowing it down (on a dual core system that is, HT would probably speed it up) Mainly because your turing off one core, and forcing everything to work on one core only, on my system, hl2 (for example) runs entirely on core 2, uses all of it, everything else then runs on Core 1. And i'll have to try this hotfix, wonder if i'll see any improvements (no idea how great though, i seem to miss small things) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/501985-ht-and-dual-core-users-read/page/2/#findComment-587941100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WooSH Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 .. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/501985-ht-and-dual-core-users-read/page/2/#findComment-587941119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryne Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 Anyone tried this on a Core 2 Duo PC yet? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/501985-ht-and-dual-core-users-read/page/2/#findComment-587941133 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AimLXJ Posted October 9, 2006 Author Share Posted October 9, 2006 Just came back from BF2142, Titan floor is ok here, I think I have few FPS more now... Wierd, you have anything in mind that I should try? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/501985-ht-and-dual-core-users-read/page/2/#findComment-587942482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NienorGT Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 Wierd, you have anything in mind that I should try? Don't know... you are the only one to get wierd things... But I won't care too mush of BF2142... to me BF2 still in "Beta" phase due to numerous bugs... so don't expect that mush from the pre-release demo of 2142... :huh: As info I can't remap some buttons... they just kept unchanged... :rolleyes: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/501985-ht-and-dual-core-users-read/page/2/#findComment-587942501 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaViD_BRaNDoN Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 (edited) Anyone with Core Duo can vouch for the performance increase using the aforementioned patch? Also, where can we get Rev 4 of that patch (as indicated at the Microsoft KB)? Edited October 16, 2006 by DaViD_BRaNDoN Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/501985-ht-and-dual-core-users-read/page/2/#findComment-587959027 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaViD_BRaNDoN Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 I found a more detail on how to go about getting this Core Duo patch work @ http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=60416 Do share your experiences :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/501985-ht-and-dual-core-users-read/page/2/#findComment-587959178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricDemon Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 I've been using this hotfix for quite some time on my dual core machines... it's not so much as a performance increase, but more of a compatability feature for older non multi-threaded apps/games. I still use it though, nothing wrong with being up-to-date with patches etc. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/501985-ht-and-dual-core-users-read/page/2/#findComment-587959186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techno_Funky Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 Is it jsut me or everybody, I can't find the damn download link! :angry: Hell yeah iam with you man :angry: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/501985-ht-and-dual-core-users-read/page/2/#findComment-587959253 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AimLXJ Posted October 16, 2006 Author Share Posted October 16, 2006 Anyone with Core Duo can vouch for the performance increase using the aforementioned patch? Also, where can we get Rev 4 of that patch (as indicated at the Microsoft KB)? Sorry, I don't have any connections with Rev4 :s, you have to be a Microsoft tester or whatever inorder to get it Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/501985-ht-and-dual-core-users-read/page/2/#findComment-587961013 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dys12586 Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Does anyone know if this hotfix is compatiable with Windows XP x64 or where you can get the x64 version of this hotfix? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/501985-ht-and-dual-core-users-read/page/2/#findComment-587961759 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaViD_BRaNDoN Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 I've applied the hotfix on two of my Core Duo notebook using the steps from http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=60416 but I've yet to notice any difference. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/501985-ht-and-dual-core-users-read/page/2/#findComment-587961801 Share on other sites More sharing options...
:: Lyon :: Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Should we apply this patch for Vista as well? or Vista has got it right Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/501985-ht-and-dual-core-users-read/page/2/#findComment-587961825 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted October 17, 2006 Veteran Share Posted October 17, 2006 well, installed it, haven't noticed any major changes, task manager did report 98% CPU usage though, haven't seen it do that before Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/501985-ht-and-dual-core-users-read/page/2/#findComment-587961830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AimLXJ Posted October 18, 2006 Author Share Posted October 18, 2006 Should we apply this patch for Vista as well? or Vista has got it right As you should know, Vista is still a beta right now so with my knowledge sure why not but its up to you. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/501985-ht-and-dual-core-users-read/page/2/#findComment-587964280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
null_ Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 I'd imagine that this fix has already been included in Windows Vista. To the original poster, thanks for mentioning this - I've noticed a small jump in performance on my second computer. :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/501985-ht-and-dual-core-users-read/page/2/#findComment-587965047 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techno_Funky Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 Ok well sorry about me not reading the post well the link is included in the post :blush: Installed the patch on my C2D machine did not find any performance boost as such. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/501985-ht-and-dual-core-users-read/page/2/#findComment-587965175 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MightyJordan Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 I'm afraid I don't have a dual-core processor (yet. give me about 2 years, lol). Is there a patch or update or program similar to this item that can do the same thing but for single core processors (Intel Celeron preferred)? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/501985-ht-and-dual-core-users-read/page/2/#findComment-587966048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scirwode Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 I found a more detail on how to go about getting this Core Duo patch work @ http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=60416 Do share your experiences :D This has been known for so long and only now it comes to Neowin :sleep: . You will not see much of a performance boost if you just open windows and browse the internet. There's also not much difference in performance as the fix only applies to notebooks. Desktops I believe already have this feature enabled though I could be wrong. If your rendering video or 3D models, you might notice a slight difference in speed, but other than that it barely noticeble. Windows Vista I believe correctly reads dual-core so the update does not need to be applied for it. I forgot to add that AMD has a very good solution to this problem by fooling Windows XP that there's only one processor running on a dual-core machine. I'm a bit unclear about the name of the program but I hear it is pretty neat. Scirwode Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/501985-ht-and-dual-core-users-read/page/2/#findComment-587966877 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted October 19, 2006 Veteran Share Posted October 19, 2006 I'm afraid I don't have a dual-core processor (yet. give me about 2 years, lol). Is there a patch or update or program similar to this item that can do the same thing but for single core processors (Intel Celeron preferred)? Well, the problem is how Windows schedules things with a dual core chips, single core chips don't have that problem. Unless they have that hack HyperThreading enabled. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/501985-ht-and-dual-core-users-read/page/2/#findComment-587967727 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AimLXJ Posted October 28, 2006 Author Share Posted October 28, 2006 **WARNING!!!*** Anyone that has installed this beta patch, DO NOT, I REPEAT, DO NOT upgrade or touch your video BIOS at ALL! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/501985-ht-and-dual-core-users-read/page/2/#findComment-587994139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
venejo Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 This patch installs these files: 29-Sep-2005 00:02 5.1.2600.2765 2.136.064 Ntkrnlmp.exe 28-Sep-2005 23:35 5.1.2600.2765 2.057.344 Ntkrnlpa.exe 28-Sep-2005 23:35 5.1.2600.2765 2.015.744 Ntkrpamp.exe 29-Sep-2005 00:04 5.1.2600.2765 2.180.096 Ntoskrnl.exe On my system these files are on build 5.1.2600.2774 and come form the WindowsXP-KB909095-x86-ENU update. So i guess many other improvements are included since the 896256 update. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/501985-ht-and-dual-core-users-read/page/2/#findComment-587994157 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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