Rainbow Six: Vegas |x360| Early Impressions


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this facial recognition SUCKS for me....I'm not bald ffs, I want my hair!

i keep getting "invalid front picture, please take it again"....now im getting "invalid side picture, please take again" and each time i have to wait like 5 damn minutes for it to generate an "invalid" image :/

This thing is killing me, at least I got the achievement for it though, but damn, this is not nearly as cool as I hoped it would be.

Are you trying it during the daytime?

If not and you are using artificial lighting, the amount of or lack of artificial lighting really, really, really makes a huge difference. I kept getting the invalid side picture error message when I was using lamps.

As a result, I came to the conclusion that having really dramatic darks and lights seems to make it not like things at all.

I also figured out that the background behind me mattered as well. What I mean is ideally, having a hollywood green screen would be the ultimate way yo go. So as silly as it sounds, see if you have a blanket or towel or something along those lines that is a rather bright or pastel like color.

Basically you need to make sure the background color is not close in hue or shade to either your hair or face color. Since you are saying it is not seeing your hair, from playing with it for so long I am going to go out on a limb and guess whatever your background is, possibly due to the lighting you are using and in particular the shadows that are a result of the lighting, are very close in hue and value to your hair color. To explain it further...

I am bald as can be, shave my head with a razor every day or every other day. I kept having an issue because although I have no hair at all, I have a beard that is very full and appeared darker than it is be cause of the lighting I was using. So because background was also dark, when doing the side picture, it was "reading" my beard and background as all one shape, hence the error message about invalid picture.

I truly believe it is so particular because it does such a good job when it indeed does work. I think it is better that it is so hard to get right in the long run, that is how they can make it look so good. If it read whatever the camera took and did not question it, it would wind up looking like crap. So try to not get frustrated, it is without a doubt a pain in the ass to get a good set up with it, but it is worth it.

I cannot argue with you though that it does take a long time to render, no doubt about that.

I heard this game had 4 player co-op is that true?

Affirmative. 4 player CoOp is for real. (Y)

I took a picture of my character and myself next to the TV as it is right now.

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Noticed how it is looking washed out. That is because this is still with artificial lighting, not sunlight.

I will try and redo my character to the sunlight one tomorrow, but it is supposed to rain all day, so more than likely Friday I will have to do it, that is if it is nice out weather wise.

And Yes, it without a doubt does slim you down to a soldiers build. ;)

i was trying it with my artificial light, although they arent the typical light bulbs, they are pretty damn bright.... ill open up all 3 of my windows tomorrow and see how it goes

Believe it or not, I think the brighter the light, the worse it actually comes out. :wacko: I actually had to change lamps as the first one I used was just to bright.

yes...you cant take a picture of your ###### :/....i tried, it was too big for the "fill in red square"

:rofl: :rofl: You must have accidentally pressed Y. That makes the camera zoom in. ;) :laugh:

Haha, that made me laugh. I'm going to try and take a picture of my butt with two dots for eyes. I almost forgot about the glasses/nose disguise. Brilliant! I hope it works. :D

I've been playing the single-player for a good 5 hours. The best FPS on the 360. Simple as that. The gameplay and control mechanics are pretty much flawless for me. Enjoying it alot more than GRAW. This should no doubt hold me over until BiA: Hell's Highway.

I just got the game and mine worked out pretty fine, DL you know there are slider for adjusting the britness and contrast.on the bottom of the windows right. I don't have the camara with me and pretty lazy to take a picture but just gave it go I know it takes time took me 10 min to adjust the picture and another 5 to develope. lol

I just got the game and mine worked out pretty fine, DL you know there are slider for adjusting the britness and contrast.on the bottom of the windows right. I don't have the camara with me and pretty lazy to take a picture but just gave it go I know it takes time took me 10 min to adjust the picture and another 5 to develope. lol

Yep, I saw the sliders right away. ;) My living room just has very poor lighting, so it was not ideal. As you can see mine came out decent, just not as good as I know it can.

Hey DirtyLarry, looks very good the Camera Face mapping, it does look very much like you, so I am impressed with the feature, sure is nice to play with friends and then recognize them i think its cool, if I pick up Rainbow six I will pick up a camera also. Cant wait to see what it looks like in sunlight, although it does look cool as it is now.

k ive given up on the whole camera thing....with all 3 windows completely open, the sun is shining through i was able to get a way better picture but...I AM STILL bald...it doesnt pick up spikes, it only picks up flat hair and hair down on your forehead...i tried tilting my head down as much as possible and it still turns out bald practically every time...i find the technology to be quite flawed myself, but oh well

I kept the bald guy, put some face paint on it and im done...sick of wasted time trying to get a picture of myself... I also had tested a friend and he turned out quite bald as well...it has to be the technology. :/

I've been playing the single-player for a good 5 hours. The best FPS on the 360. Simple as that. The gameplay and control mechanics are pretty much flawless for me. Enjoying it alot more than GRAW. This should no doubt hold me over until BiA: Hell's Highway.

hipster, is it smoother than GRAW? the problem i had with that one is that you could just buy the farm at any moment. it was so frustrating. Is Vegas different?

thx

hipster, is it smoother than GRAW? the problem i had with that one is that you could just buy the farm at any moment. it was so frustrating. Is Vegas different?

thx

It's pretty challenging and there were a couple times I threw my controller mid-way through the Spire level but its mostly because of lack of finding a better way to enter a room. If you're smart and patient, it rarely is frustrating. IMO the AI is smarter in this than in GRAW. That, paired with the fact its close quarters, makes the firefights much more fun and intense too. Plus the colors of Vegas are so darn purty.

Me and my whole family is in love with the Face-Mapping feature. I haven't even played the game that much yet, we've been having so much fun mapping friends' faces onto characters, starting up a local game with Friendly Fire turned ON and blasting away! Hahaha! :rofl: :devil:

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