Rainbow Six: Vegas |x360| Early Impressions


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I just took a look at a video over on GT and I must say it looks amazing, the gameplay looks like something you could get hooked on and Single Player CO-OP on LIVE for up to 4 Players is awesome! Can anyone provide a link to me showing the Face Mapping feature? The video only showed a 5 second glimpse.

What I hate in Rainbow Six Vegas is the accuracy - its just awful.

Half of your bullets are gigantic tracers and all submachineguns have better accuracy and power than rifles.

hmm thx for the update hipster. is it true the health system's like COD2-3/GOw in that it recharges? that would help, GRAW sucked eggs for having no med packs in-level.

Yes, it recharges..

Screen goes almost all black with strange color distortion..

I just took a look at a video over on GT and I must say it looks amazing, the gameplay looks like something you could get hooked on and Single Player CO-OP on LIVE for up to 4 Players is awesome! Can anyone provide a link to me showing the Face Mapping feature? The video only showed a 5 second glimpse.

To answer myself...

There's a good video on CO-OP and face customization on EuroGamer TV Today. Check it out here.

Anyone know if the face mapping feature will map glasses? I might pick up this game and whatever the camera is called. Might just buy the bundle with an extra year of Xbox Live to save money.

One of the members on here posted some shots earlier in this thread with his glasses on.

One of the members on here posted some shots earlier in this thread with his glasses on.

Hmm... must have missed that. Couldn't tell from the first picture because his face was all washed out. I can see them of the other picture, and it looks better than I expected.

Been released in the UK tomorrow, just got my copy through from Gameplay! However for some reason, Gameplay have sent me two copies, but only charged me for one! :blink: So now it seems i've got a free copy of RS Vegas :D Anyway probably give this a go tonight after work....

What I hate in Rainbow Six Vegas is the accuracy - its just awful.

Half of your bullets are gigantic tracers and all submachineguns have better accuracy and power than rifles.

This is why I change my ROF to 1 round per trigger squeeze. I never liked how in RS or GR they default you to maximum ROF. Personally, I think the 1 round is alot more 'realistic' and the accuracy is greatly improved because you don't have the recoil. Slap on a silencer and you can be deadly.

That said, the sneaking up on enemies is kind of weak. There have been instances where I stay completely covered by a wall and the enemy still knows I'm coming and starts firing away.

Finally got the game, I'm not even done with the first Map Section of the game before i jumped on Live.

I love the Player Customization! Finding matches can be a real pain, great pings, no Connect issues but when i search for an English server

i always end up on a server where they speak Japanese, German or BlaBlaMakesNoSense. I really wanna try out Co-op, but i know so few

people who has Xbox 360 :(

Oh really?

What button he was using to shoot with

Well different games have different control setups, but usually:

Right Trigger = Shoot

Left Trigger = Grenade

X = Reload

Y = Switch Guns

etc

Finally got the game, I'm not even done with the first Map Section of the game before i jumped on Live.

I love the Player Customization! Finding matches can be a real pain, great pings, no Connect issues but when i search for an English server

i always end up on a server where they speak Japanese, German or BlaBlaMakesNoSense. I really wanna try out Co-op, but i know so few

people who has Xbox 360 :(

Send me a friend invite, I'll be happy to play Co-Op with you, I got the game a week or so ago but I haven't had a chance to play it at all yet.

Well different games have different control setups, but usually:

Right Trigger = Shoot

Left Trigger = Grenade

X = Reload

Y = Switch Guns

etc

Send me a friend invite, I'll be happy to play Co-Op with you, I got the game a week or so ago but I haven't had a chance to play it at all yet.

If you got time for a game tonight, I'll be online from now and the next 2-3 hours :)

Is anyone else having problem while playing Realistic mode, I started playing couple of days ago and I think after the 2 or 3rd mission the game changed the setting to normal all by itself.

I started on realistic - dunno if it has changed, where do you see that?

Well different games have different control setups, but usually:

Right Trigger = Shoot

Left Trigger = Grenade

X = Reload

Y = Switch Guns

etc

Send me a friend invite, I'll be happy to play Co-Op with you, I got the game a week or so ago but I haven't had a chance to play it at all yet.

Yeah I know that! :p

I was talking to soloredd - he says he switches semi-automatic for improved accuracy.

But I cant shoot fast enough with the trigger buttons on semi-automatic setting so I was wondering if he used 'smaller' buttons to shoot making it easiyer and faster.

Look down and see :p

This is why I change my ROF to 1 round per trigger squeeze. I never liked how in RS or GR they default you to maximum ROF. Personally, I think the 1 round is alot more 'realistic' and the accuracy is greatly improved because you don't have the recoil. Slap on a silencer and you can be deadly.

That said, the sneaking up on enemies is kind of weak. There have been instances where I stay completely covered by a wall and the enemy still knows I'm coming and starts firing away.

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