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Hmm this is what i have been wondering too either build a new desktop PC or buy a 20" iMac or 15.4" MacBook Pro i think i will be going with the 20" iMac because great for watching DVD's photo editing and looks freaking fantastic. Also it now runs XP and Vista so that is even better.

So if i were in your position i would get a 20" iMac and wireless mouse and keyboard because would you really take you laptop everywhere like where do you go with your laptop now is it really like everywhere in the house. One question to ask is could you live with a 20" screen in one place and you moving around your room with the wireless mouse and keyboard?

Because that is what im going to be doing as i already have a 17"Wide laptop which will do me sufficient for when i really need the portability in college which is in half a year.

Tech_Dude:

Just so we're clear, am I to understand that you will not be using OS X on a new Mac (should you get one), but rather, Vista? Or do you intend to use both, but have Vista as your main OS?

both, i thought i made it clear earler that i'll do boot camp? wait a sec... post #52 right above yours.... :rolleyes:

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I thought it was just Windows in general that you wanted, not Vista in particular - though Vista would be the natural answer at this point.

If you just want to run a few Windows programs or just games, then i tmight make more sense to just use XP until you find a compelling reason to go for Vista. As for myself, I find that OS X has basically supplanted Windows quite easily for 99% of my needs, but I do require Windows for some gaming and that occasional oddball app that is Windows-specific.

I'm assuming your need for Windows is far greater than mine.

Anyway, carry on. :)

I thought it was just Windows in general that you wanted, not Vista in particular - though Vista would be the natural answer at this point.

If you just want to run a few Windows programs or just games, then i tmight make more sense to just use XP until you find a compelling reason to go for Vista. As for myself, I find that OS X has basically supplanted Windows quite easily for 99% of my needs, but I do require Windows for some gaming and that occasional oddball app that is Windows-specific.

I'm assuming your need for Windows is far greater than mine.

Anyway, carry on. :)

no problem man, I just want the best of both worlds. Run Mac OSX for like a week, then go to windows, then back and so on... I don't game, I just use the compouter to do school projects when needed, e-mail, internet, im, photos, few videos etc.

I'm slowing aiming for the mac full now, but still have about 50% thought on the HP. Both realy great computers. Guess I still need to head over to the mac store and best buy to check both out.... but not soon, becuase I have finals :pinch: :| :wacko: haha So I got to get studing on STD's, large math concepts, SAT words and help a teacher out with some room cleaning.... ohhh I know how fun is that :sleep:

Well, from what I gathered, you can play with Windows and OSX on a Mac (or even linux or Vista) but you can't do that with a PC (well, not that easy anyway).

If it was a lower price range, then I'd get a PC-based laptop, but you can't beat the combination of OSX and Windows on the same computer.

OK well the past few days I've had these mac attacks, where I get all crazy about a mac. But I have calm down a bit, and i'm leaning towards the HP. I might just pre configure it off of costco.com. Since they ahve a great 6 month return policy. I already preconfigured a system for fun. and Came up to $1,943.99 The specs are as follows:

  • Intel core 2 duo T7200 2.0 GHZ
  • 2GB Ram
  • 240GB HD
  • Super multi 8x DVD+/-R/RW double layer DVD drive
  • 512MB Nvidia Geforce Go 7600
  • Intel pro wireless
  • 17" WSXGA HD LCD with brightview 1680x1050
  • Free upgrade to XP MCE 2005
  • Free upgrade to the HP imprint with mic and webcam
  • System recovery DVD for HP system + XP MCE 05
  • HP express card analog TV tuner with remote...

Like I said I don't want to have to upgrade for a long time... With the 512MB GC and the 1680x1050 res. It should be all good..

holy that laptop is a tank. Looking at the HP site it is pushing 8lbs. I guess if you want a desktop replacement then its fine, but speaking from experience; I wouldn't want to tote anything heavier than 5.5 - 6 lbs around uni every day with me.

well with me, it will just be around the house... so it wont realy matter.

But I want to be mobile,I hate siting at a desk. do enough of that at school...

Depends on the desk & chair :p A school desk of any sort is never a fun place to be...

yeah I agree, lucky though I have 1 1/4 years left of high school. Starting my new trimester tomorow yea me! :p Hope I get some good classes this time..

I do have one question and this goes with the post i made above, Now I'm prety munch set at the specs, but as for the processer, I do want to intel core 2 duo, but do you think I realy need a 2.00 GHZ? or will a 1.60 or 1.66 Ghz do well?

List your uses and ponder if you think you'll need the speed later on. I tend to go for as much as I can afford with hardware since I get my use out of it anyways, especially when I overclock that certain component.

I kind of listed them on the first page...... but the main low down is Digital multimedia like photography, video editing. DVDs, internet, im. I also use Office 2003 Pro, but will be upgradeing to Office 2007 pro. ( thats if I stay with windows )

"When you use Mac, you will never go back." -fuBar

"When you use Windows, you will throw it out the window." -fuBar

I guess I have to make the trip to both best buy and the mac store and test both of them out, thast will be the only way I can be for sure what I want.

I kind of listed them on the first page...... but the main low down is Digital multimedia like photography, video editing. DVDs, internet, im. I also use Office 2003 Pro, but will be upgradeing to Office 2007 pro. ( thats if I stay with windows )

I guess I have to make the trip to both best buy and the mac store and test both of them out, thast will be the only way I can be for sure what I want.

Doesn't BB have Windows and Mac OS X?

Because Futureshop has both OS on demo and Vista too!

Doesn't BB have Windows and Mac OS X?

Because Futureshop has both OS on demo and Vista too!

I know one time they sold a mac in store, but I think its only on line...

I don't think we have a feature shop. But we have a best buy and few doors down is a mac store ( northwest owned )

well with me, it will just be around the house... so it wont realy matter.

But I want to be mobile,I hate siting at a desk. do enough of that at school...

Well, isn't getting a 17" notebook the opposite of mobile :blink: ? Sure, you may have the budget to get it but do you REALLY need it? What you want and what you need is two different things. 15.4" is the absolute maximum for portability. You say you're going to finishing be High School or whatever (I have no idea of the education system there) so you should probably start to plan ahead on what you should be doing in college or university.

If you are planning on taking a course where a computer is a must, then maybe you need a powerful notebook. But if you're just going to be typing out reports, the occasional photography and video editing, then a 14" notebook could easily do just that. You've already said that you're not a gamer so why go for something with a mid range graphic card? You ask that you wish for the Intel Core 2 Duo, but technically it brings nothing much in terms of performance if you're are just using it for what you've stated, then it's a wasted purchase.

Maybe you need the Intel Core 2 Duo for video editing but what software are you going to be using? I use Adobe Premiere 6.0 (Alright it's old, but if someone can donate me RM6000 to buy Adobe Premiere Pro 2.0, I'll be grateful) and it's fast enough on my notebook, which is 15.4" and has an Intel Core Duo processor. My friends, who most of them are in the Multimedia industry, buy notebooks that cost RM2899 (convert it to US currency as I can't remember the exchange rate) and they're able to run Maya and LightWave 3D with little to no problems at all.

They're not gamers so they got Intel GMA 950 which is good enough. All of their notebooks are dual core with at least 1 GB of RAM and it still functions correctly and as it should. It's not about getting the latest and greatest sometimes where notebooks are concern. Sure, the screen is bigger and you have a seperate keypad, but you might as well get a powerful desktop if that is what you want. You must trade off a few things if you wish to get a notebook. Since you're aiming for portability, then 17" is out of the question.

Sure, the HP Pavilion dv9000 looks nice and the HP advertising is good. But don't buy into the "Oh, that looks cool, I need to get it". The Macbook and to a certain extent the Macbook Pro is good enough for someone in high school for all your daily needs. 15.4" notebooks from Dell and HP are also good enough to last at least 3 years and should have good battery life.

It now all comes down to what you really need to help you achieve academic success. Like I said, your parents can probably afford that notebook, but is it what you really need?

Scirwode

Well, I'm so used to a large screen. But if I were to get a macbook Pro. it would be a 15.4" 17" is to large and a few spots are just a waste of space. plus its more expenstive.I'm NOT going by looks. I want a laptop/computer that will last me a while. and those specs I provided earer are JUST AN IDEA.

I'm planing on going to a tech school we have in the states called ITT tech. They provide great tech programs that are right up my ally. Programs that will requre high speeds. I'm only a junior, Gonna graduate in June '08 if it comes to that I need a smaller notebook then I'll get one. But at this rate I don't see me making the final choice till after the new year, but you'll never know...

Well, I'm so used to a large screen. But if I were to get a macbook Pro. it would be a 15.4" 17" is to large and a few spots are just a waste of space. plus its more expenstive.I'm NOT going by looks. I want a laptop/computer that will last me a while. and those specs I provided earer are JUST AN IDEA.

I'm planing on going to a tech school we have in the states called ITT tech. They provide great tech programs that are right up my ally. Programs that will requre high speeds. I'm only a junior, Gonna graduate in June '08 if it comes to that I need a smaller notebook then I'll get one. But at this rate I don't see me making the final choice till after the new year, but you'll never know...

I know for a fact that HP will be releasing a new line of notebooks when Windows Vista is released to the public (One of the perks in knowing friends in HP Taiwan and Malaysia) so it should be in January. Since you're going to a Tech School (though I have no idea what that is unless it's IT base), then most probably 15.4" is still good enough. And you already contradicted yourself by saying that 17" is too large and a waste of space in your post.

That said, you say you're going to be using programs that will push even the Pavilion dv9000 to its limit. So why don't you start listing the number one priorities of this notebook and then list down the programs you'll probably be using. If it's anywhere near to what I use in a daily basis (and I'm in the advertising and creative department) then you're still better off with 15.4".

I would NEVER buy a HP/Compaq. As far as i'm concerned they're crap.

Then you're missing out on a good brand. What is it with people and brand loyalty :blink: ?

Scirwode

I know for a fact that HP will be releasing a new line of notebooks when Windows Vista is released to the public (One of the perks in knowing friends in HP Taiwan and Malaysia) so it should be in January. Since you're going to a Tech School (though I have no idea what that is unless it's IT base), then most probably 15.4" is still good enough. And you already contradicted yourself by saying that 17" is too large and a waste of space in your post.

Well I know its the same thing bit the 17" macbook Pro is a waste of space. the HP has more to offer to take advantage of the extra space. As for those new laptops, it seems funny to release new versons 2-3 months after a revision on the dv8000. ( now dv9000 but alright...

That said, you say you're going to be using programs that will push even the Pavilion dv9000 to its limit. So why don't you start listing the number one priorities of this notebook and then list down the programs you'll probably be using. If it's anywhere near to what I use in a daily basis (and I'm in the advertising and creative department) then you're still better off with 15.4".

I'll get back to you on that tomorow, Just wanted to say my 2 centss about the first part of ur responce. thanks for helping me btw...

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