Mac OS X 'Leopard'-related Discussion

[PyX]

I agree. I prefer Quick Look over Cover Flow.

But Coverflow must be based on Quick Look.

Anyway, Quick Look seemed useless at first, but it's really usefull and quick in fact. Especially if people start to add modules to it so that you can open other types of documents... but then again, will it remain Quick Look, or just Look if they do that... ?

Btw, I don't use Coverflow in iTunes, but really plan on using it in Finder. I'm just deceived that they didn't do 1024x1024 icons... you know, with all these huge 30" displays, and some bigger ones in the future as well... maybe things will look pixelized in some way. And while you're at making them bigger, why just not making them huge so that they stay for a while?

[osirisX]

I just tried it for you, and no, currently Quick Look won't preview INDD files. Either Apple or Adobe will probably (and hopefully) release a CS3 Quick Look plugin once Leopard hits GM.

That'd be right :/ It's frustrating that Preview doesn't even open INDD files.

[.Neo]

But Coverflow must be based on Quick Look.

I prever to use Quick Look over Cover Flow, purely based on the fact that I find it easier to watch previews in a sperate window. It has nothing to do with the underlying frameworks being used.

That'd be right :/ It's frustrating that Preview doesn't even open INDD files.

Yeah it's a shame, but personally I think we, as Mac OS X users, should feel lucky that we already have PSD and PDF support out of the box.

I really wonder if Quick Look will be picked up by 3rd party developers, because without them the feature is a bit meaningless. Apple really took a bit of a gamble on this one.

[osirisX]

Yeah, I'm very grateful to have support for PDF, PSD, AI, EPS, etc. I could use Bridge to browse files but I find it to be slowish and I dislike the interface (I love columns view way to much :p).

[giga Veteran]

Anyone willing to test some other image files for me for Cover Flow/Quick Look? Specifically .dng and .cr2 raw files.

[.Neo]

Sure. I don't have such files on my HDDs though, but if you can find a way to send them over I'd be happy to run a small test.

[osirisX]

Screenshots from the latest Leopard build:

Boot Camp 2:

Desktop Wallpapers:

iChat 4

System Version:

[suspiria]

Screenshots from the latest Leopard build:

That's not the "latest" build anymore...

http://www.macrumors.com/2007/09/21/apple-...-leopard-9a559/

Graphite looks nice though, judging from your screenshots....

[PyX]

Looks nice. Apparently, a couple of things were tweaked in this build and they got a brand new software update app (?)

2 seeds this week... they did that with 10.4.11 I think... and it's still not out. I doubt we can come to conclusions at this moment.

[Quillz]

I'm starting to wonder now if the final build of Leopard will continue to use the Aqua scroll bars. I mean, surely they would have changed them by now, right?

[Chicane-UK Veteran]

Its quite possible that modified scroll bars would be in an internal build. Changing them simply mean a merge of that element of the UI before it shipped.

I'm personally not holding out much hope for that happen though :(

[Calum Veteran]

Well they should change the scrollbars if they want consistency with iTunes!

And tbh I'm getting bored of the Aqua scrollbars!

Edited September 22, 2007 by cJr.

[.Neo]

Probably because they match the few Aqua elements left. If they replace the scroll bars the "OK" buttons, checkboxes, radio buttons tabs (in applications) etc. need to go too.

That's the only reason I can come up with. But then again, it doesn't explain why Apple choose to equip iTunes 7 and iLife '08 with different scroll bars and checkboxes.

At least they updated the Desktop icon right? :p

Gotta love those 512x512 pixel icons!

[crazzyyfool]

New volume bezel.

[.Neo]

It's too bad Apple won't use those for progress bars as well. The iPod classic's new UI has a very nice bars as well.

[osirisX]

Loving both the new Desktop icon and volume bezel.

[Chicane-UK Veteran]

Gawd.. wish I was on the beta programme for Leopard! Would have loved to have had a play with it before it came out! :(

[osirisX]

It's official. Apple have killed off the Apple fanboy public holiday known as iCal Day. The iCal icon in Leopard now shows the current date even if iCal isn't running.

Other things include:

- The Welcome Video to Mac OS X 10.5 now has a new audio track (It's the same one used in the Aluminium iMac ad).

- New Desktop images (A picture of the Earth and a picture of a partial bit of the Earth).

- New Spaces Icon (It isn't very different compared to the previous one. The System Preference Pane icon for Expos? & Spaces has also been updated to match the new Spaces icon).

- Front Row has its own icon (It's the same icon used for it on the Leopard site, Apple Remote buttons).

- Menus and dialog sheets now overlay with a translucent filter, allowing you to see a hint of the underlying windows.

- Screen sharing "finally works right" and seems very fast at full resolution.

- More user interface consistency across the operating system.

Gallery

[trust_no1]

https://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?show...#entry588869266

[.Neo]

It's a shame Apple won't update the system sounds and boot chime once in a while. They're all getting a bit old.

[DrunkenMaster]

So far Leopard hasn't impressed me much. Its much the same as Tiger is save for a few changes. My everyday use is probably to include Spaces. I'm not sure I'm sold on the idea of TimeMachine as I think it will unnecessarily gobble up HDD space for files that don't need to be backed up. That's not to say I won't upgrade. I think there's bound to be bug fixes, new features developers will use in new apps, and with the 64-bit optimizations, its the only way I'm going to get any more speed from this sad little iMac G5.

The 'impress' part is focused on the idea Jobs promised us Top-Secret features and they were hardly oohs and aahs save from Time Machine. I sure as hell wouldn't want MS to copy it - they wouldn't have been able to do it by themselves- but where were all the other features? Jobs has really got to stop over-hyping his products if there's no overhype. This is because Leopard is a large revenue source for Apple and a $$$$/profit machine.

Apple should make a Changelog available to the public if they haven't already. When Tiger came out it took a few months of people hacking around to figure out what all the new features were because Apple didn't really tell anybody.

I figure at this rate, the Gold Master will probably be sent out within a week for one more round of testing and another week before it starts being duplicated. Looks like end of October - at least I've convinced myself - is still on track. ;)

[.Neo]

You can turn Time Machine off per individual file or folder if you don't want it to be backed up.

I have to agree on the "Top Secret" features part. At WWDC07 Apple didn't show us much extra that wasn't already in the early betas. Apart from the revamped UI that is.

The resolution independent UI looks amazing the in latest build! They really managed to pull it together.

:rofl:

Edited September 23, 2007 by .Neo

[crazzyyfool]

The resolution independent UI looks amazing the in latest build! They really managed to pull it together.

:rofl:

Oh dear. :laugh:

[.Neo]

Oh dear. :laugh:

Somehow I get the feeling we won't be seeing a "ready for action" resolution independence UI in Leopard just yet. :p

[Koyder]

2 questions:

1. Is there an interface (System Preferences?) to control resolution independence or does it still have to be triggered via Quartz Debug?

2. Is Quartz 2D Extreme enabled by default? It's been there since Tiger, I wonder if Apple's ever going to actually make use of it.

Also, could someone post a screenshot of the Leopard Dock against some bright wallpaper? I've got a feeling it won't look good with all the multiple icon shadows. Thanks in advance!