Vice Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 Interesting. I wonder how long it will take for it to leak in Final form. I remember years past that Tiger GM leaked about 2 weeks before the release date and Neowin enforced a no screenshots / no talking about using it on the forum. Getting close to the final release now.. I feel indifferent thats for sure. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/521244-mac-os-x-leopard-related-discussion/page/31/#findComment-588876718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
divinatum Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that 599 is in fact like 1 build away from GM. Who knows, maybe final build number will be 9a600. As for seeing the GM build early... I doubt it. It's possible yes, but I think 599 will be the last seeded build on ADC until It's released when ADC members will download their copy. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/521244-mac-os-x-leopard-related-discussion/page/31/#findComment-588876783 Share on other sites More sharing options...
osirisX Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 9A600 would be a nice round number to finish off with. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/521244-mac-os-x-leopard-related-discussion/page/31/#findComment-588876862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Neo Posted September 26, 2007 Author Share Posted September 26, 2007 9A600 would be a nice round number to finish off with. Beautiful. Talking about polish and paying attention to detail! :laugh: ;) I'm hoping that applications will be updated faster to support Leopard, it took them quite a while after Tiger hit GM. Currently iLife '08, iWork '08 and Adobe Creative Suite 3 don't run properly. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/521244-mac-os-x-leopard-related-discussion/page/31/#findComment-588876871 Share on other sites More sharing options...
XiXora Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 TBH, I can't wait. TextMate 2 is leopard only :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/521244-mac-os-x-leopard-related-discussion/page/31/#findComment-588876961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watters Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 Well of course iLife 08 and iWorks 08 probably already have a fix, so all you have to worry about is CS3/other apps Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/521244-mac-os-x-leopard-related-discussion/page/31/#findComment-588876971 Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardsim7 Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 I can't wait!! :D -Rich- Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/521244-mac-os-x-leopard-related-discussion/page/31/#findComment-588876977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotdog666al Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 The Leopard UI is more consistent, but not more polished, it looks far "cheaper" than Tiger did. Now Neo will most definitely disagree with me and some others will too, but comparing them side by side you will notice the difference in quality. Granted its not a train wreck or anything, but it definitely shows someone different is working on its GUI this time around. As for the statement regarding it being like Vista, thats a bit much, Leopard will be a prime OS as far as functionality and programs go, its GUI will be the work in progress imo. I like the direction they are going but they didn't quite make it yet and it certainly shows. Only downside is Apple has never really updated the theme of a Mac OS release, so don't count on it changing much until 10.6, but its very obvious whoever is doing the new work isn't as critical for every fine detail as the previous designer was. Pixel perfectionists will be upset by this, but the average person won't. I just hope they finish the resolution independence as that was one feature I was really looking forward to.Btw the new nano is quite nice in person, in pictures especially dead on, it looks terrible, like a big crappy photoshop bevel, in your hand its quite different. I agree with you completely, I just had to skim through to come to that conclusion. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/521244-mac-os-x-leopard-related-discussion/page/31/#findComment-588876997 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that 599 is in fact like 1 build away from GM. Who knows, maybe final build number will be 9a600. As for seeing the GM build early... I doubt it. It's possible yes, but I think 599 will be the last seeded build on ADC until It's released when ADC members will download their copy. i thought that the last released build is 559? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/521244-mac-os-x-leopard-related-discussion/page/31/#findComment-588877117 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillz Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 When does Apple intend to announce the release date of Leopard? I thought they'd do it at the Paris Expo, but apparently not. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/521244-mac-os-x-leopard-related-discussion/page/31/#findComment-588877319 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadishTM Veteran Posted September 26, 2007 Veteran Share Posted September 26, 2007 Probably be another special event, still annoyed with the interface - seems like a hash of everything put together. Tiger's was refined, maybe it will grow on me .... Radish? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/521244-mac-os-x-leopard-related-discussion/page/31/#findComment-588877330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardsim7 Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 Good question :) -Rich- Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/521244-mac-os-x-leopard-related-discussion/page/31/#findComment-588877336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Neo Posted September 26, 2007 Author Share Posted September 26, 2007 When does Apple intend to announce the release date of Leopard? I thought they'd do it at the Paris Expo, but apparently not. If I remember correctly they didn't announce Tiger's precise release date until it was actually done. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/521244-mac-os-x-leopard-related-discussion/page/31/#findComment-588877591 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Kompressor Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 usually around the last week of October. like 23rd - 26th Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/521244-mac-os-x-leopard-related-discussion/page/31/#findComment-588877714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardsim7 Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 When's the next Apple announcment thing scheduled anyway? -Rich- Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/521244-mac-os-x-leopard-related-discussion/page/31/#findComment-588877722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PyX Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 Usually, do final OS 10.X install on any (even beta) versions of previous OS X installations? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/521244-mac-os-x-leopard-related-discussion/page/31/#findComment-588877833 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Neo Posted September 26, 2007 Author Share Posted September 26, 2007 Probably be another special event, still annoyed with the interface - seems like a hash of everything put together. Tiger's was refined, maybe it will grow on me ....Radish? People used to say the same thing about Mac OS X 10.2 Jaguar while 10.3 Panther was in beta. History really does repeats itse:p. :p Usually, do final OS 10.X install on any (even beta) versions of previous OS X installations? You can't update betas to GM versions. You should be able to update Tiger to Leopard. Not sure if you could update Panther, or below, to Leopard. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/521244-mac-os-x-leopard-related-discussion/page/31/#findComment-588877838 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadishTM Veteran Posted September 26, 2007 Veteran Share Posted September 26, 2007 People used to say the same thing about Mac OS X 10.2 Jaguar while 10.3 Panther was in beta. Well mainly it was the pinstripes that got more subtle over time with OS X revisions until Leopard came along (in that sense it was like Microsoft's Luna, it was a complete theme). Radish? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/521244-mac-os-x-leopard-related-discussion/page/31/#findComment-588877853 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Neo Posted September 26, 2007 Author Share Posted September 26, 2007 Well mainly it was the pinstripes that got more subtle over time with OS X revisions until Leopard came along (in that sense it was like Microsoft's Luna, it was a complete theme).Radish? The only thing that didn't change back then was the brushed appearance itself. Otherwise basically everything saw updates or color tweaks. Leopard finally gets rid of those pinstripes altogether. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/521244-mac-os-x-leopard-related-discussion/page/31/#findComment-588877859 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vf- Posted September 27, 2007 Share Posted September 27, 2007 The only thing that didn't change back then was the brushed appearance itself. Otherwise basically everything saw updates or color tweaks.Leopard finally gets rid of those pinstripes altogether. This metal is worse, it makes me think the entire UI is made of cardboard. Can't stand that feeling, and its friggin everywhere as well! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/521244-mac-os-x-leopard-related-discussion/page/31/#findComment-588878562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xero Posted September 27, 2007 Share Posted September 27, 2007 Radish don't worry bud your not alone. Apple really got their wires crossed this time, gloss or no gloss? all metal or mostly metal, it seems they wanted consistency but got screwed up halfway through. Mail and Preview toolbars are NOT consistent, scrollbars, push buttons, checkboxes, are NOT consistent, new folders are not consistent with the other old icons and even the new ones they created for Time Machine, Spaces, ect. If it were all consistent I'd be less annoyed even with the current look (which sucks imo) but the fact that its all mixed up annoys me. I don't think it will grow on me, but its not enough to make me not upgrade. But don't worry give me a few months after its release and hopefully I'll be able to give it a consistent GUI. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/521244-mac-os-x-leopard-related-discussion/page/31/#findComment-588878565 Share on other sites More sharing options...
suspiria Posted September 27, 2007 Share Posted September 27, 2007 This metal is worse, it makes me think the entire UI is made of cardboard. Can't stand that feeling, and its friggin everywhere as well! Well, I guess you have some modding to do. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/521244-mac-os-x-leopard-related-discussion/page/31/#findComment-588878569 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadishTM Veteran Posted September 27, 2007 Veteran Share Posted September 27, 2007 Bloody well hope so Xero :D (Y) Radish? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/521244-mac-os-x-leopard-related-discussion/page/31/#findComment-588878574 Share on other sites More sharing options...
suspiria Posted September 27, 2007 Share Posted September 27, 2007 ...Mail and Preview toolbars are NOT consistent... http://www.thinksecret.com/archives/leopar...rce/mail01.html http://www.thinksecret.com/archives/leopar...ce/preview.html How are they not consistent? They look pretty similar to me... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/521244-mac-os-x-leopard-related-discussion/page/31/#findComment-588878581 Share on other sites More sharing options...
osirisX Posted September 27, 2007 Share Posted September 27, 2007 They aren't consistent because they don't use the white plastic like everything else is using. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/521244-mac-os-x-leopard-related-discussion/page/31/#findComment-588878705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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