Mac OS X 'Leopard'-related Discussion

[sambrentnall]

i know i cant wait, i want to know what day its coming out so i can bookt he afternoon off to get to my local apple store. its half an hour away on the train!!!

I want an anouncement lol

[Elliott]

:o Really? Where? :blink:

Oh, tons! Like...ReadyBoost?

Uhm...yea, okay, not really. :p

[benderthefender]

its october, wheres leopard?

[KeR]

Cant wait to use my $100 I got back for the iPhone :)...I really hope the release is this month.

[Quillz]

:o Really? Where? :blink:

I'm not going to bother listing them because I know certain people here will dispute every single thing I post, not to mention this topic isn't about Vista, anyway. Go on Wikipedia or something if you want a full list of Vista's features.

[DrunkenMaster]

For you guys running 9a559, have you tested on an iMac G5? I'm hoping its a lot faster. I'm sick of Tiger beachballing and slowing down for no apparent reason.

[Quillz]

Leopard likely to be released October 26.

[crazzyyfool]

I have to say. I'm not liking Leopard atm after installing and using it for a bit.

I don't like the non-rounded corners on the menu bar. It doesn't look right especially since all app windows and the finder windows have rounded corners.

The Front Row transition is just a plain boring fade to black now. Not like the desktop zoom we currently have in Tiger :( WTF?

Stacks is cool. But the font used is wrong, it looks like Arial and is not the standard system font.

The damn calculator widget still has the corrupt skin. This has been the same since the launch of Tiger. :(

Cover flow is nice but I think its overkill for the Finder. Its a neat addition to iTunes but I just find it cumbersome in Finder windows.

Full screen windows look horrible against the 3D Dock.

The shadows behind the Dock icons look wrong, especially against lighter backgrounds.

The iCal dynamic date update only happens to the Dock icon and not the app icon.

The Dock looks pants on the sides of the screen and also you cannot configure how to view a Stack while the Dock is on the side. It always defaults to "Grid" mode and the "View as" option is not available. :(

The icons in the Stack menu when viewed as a fan have jaggy edges and are not anti-aliased.

The Dock icon reflections are misplaced when the Dock is a smaller size than the default. The reflections appear underneath the icon. :wacko:

The Aqua scrollbars and buttons etc need to go. The don't fit at all with the new unified theme and look out of place.

Anyway. I hope there is another seed of Leopard before GM or at least the GM version is different.

Edited October 4, 2007 by kraized

[PyX]

Another small thing in iTunes... my crossfade is clearly turned off and there is no gap between songs... MUCH better while listening to live stuff, the crowd doesn't go WOOO.OOO..OOHG!!

[iSimx]

I have to say. I'm not liking Leopard atm after installing and using it for a bit.

I don't like the non-rounded corners on the menu bar. It doesn't look right especially since all app windows and the finder windows have rounded corners.

The Front Row transition is just a plain boring fade to black now. Not like the desktop zoom we currently have in Tiger :( WTF?

Stacks is cool. But the font used is wrong, it looks like Arial and is not the standard system font.

The damn calculator widget still has the corrupt skin. This has been the same since the launch of Tiger. :(

Cover flow is nice but I think its overkill for the Finder. Its a neat addition to iTunes but I just find it cumbersome in Finder windows.

Full screen windows look horrible against the 3D Dock.

The shadows behind the Dock icons look wrong, especially against lighter backgrounds.

The iCal dynamic date update only happens to the Dock icon and not the app icon.

The Dock looks pant on the sides of the screen and also you cannot configure how to view a Stack while the Dock is on the side. It always defaults to "Grid" mode and the "View as" option is not available. :(

The icons in the Stack menu when viewed as a fan have jaggy edges and are not anti-aliased.

The Dock icon reflections are misplaced when the Dock is a smaller size than the default. The reflections appear underneath the icon. :wacko:

I agree with you on most of the points e.g. the jaggy edges, overkill of coverflow and transition of Front Row, however things like the full screen windows looking horrible with the 3d dock... maybe it takes time getting used to?? anything new takes time getting used to I guess.

[instant.human]

i for myself like the fullscreen windows against the 3d menu bar and the not rounded edges... the reflections indeed look odd... and some things seem bad aswell.

coverflow seems like overkill to me too but then again you can turn it off. i for myself dont like the list-view in the tiger-finder, just dont... like it, so i dont use it. but some people may prefare it so... here we go. :)

[CPressland]

The "non rounded" menu bar is the worst offender for me, but otherwise most of the other things will get fixed in incremental updates like X.5.1 X.5.2 X.5.3? Right?

[Cormier6083]

This is t3h suxxors. :( I don't like the menu bars. Bleh.

[Elliott]

I wish I could find the thread on all the complaints about the 10.3 and 10.4 interfaces before they were finally released. :p It's basically all the same as this.

[Shuu]

i'm poor & broke. :(

[Quillz]

The "non rounded" menu bar is the worst offender for me, but otherwise most of the other things will get fixed in incremental updates like X.5.1 X.5.2 X.5.3? Right?

I don't see what's so bad about this? Please explain how squaring off the menu bar affects productivity in any way, shape or form. I think the only reason people complain about this is because the menu bar has been rounded since 1984. Yeah, nostalgia is great, but for something so minor and pointless, it's just that... pointless complaining.

[osirisX]

The non-rounded menubar fits nicely with the new iMacs. It also doesn't look weird in screenshots.

[saxondale.]

Apple Seeds ZFS Read/Write Developer Preview 1.1 for Leopard

Apple has seeded version 1.1 of ZFS (Zettabyte File System) for Mac OS X to Developers this week. The preview updates a previous build released on June 26, 2007.

In the release notes, Apple confirms that the original release of Mac OS X Leopard (10.5) will only offer Read-Only ZFS. As a result, no ZFS pools or filesystems can be modified or created under 10.5.0. This developer's preview enables full read/write capability, including the creation/destruction of ZFS pools and filesystems.

ZFS is described as "a fundamentally new approach to data management. We've blown away 20 years of obsolete assumptions, eliminated complexity at the source, and created a storage system that's actually a pleasure to use."

The initial version of Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard is rumored to be released on October 26th, 2007. It's unclear when Leopard will incorporate full Read/Write ZFS support, but it seems clear that Apple is working on adding this functionality.

[Quillz]

The non-rounded menubar fits nicely with the new iMacs. It also doesn't look weird in screenshots.

Exactly. I've always hated how Mac desktop screenies always had the small black spaces at the top left and right.

[Koyder]

The new menubar has seen some improvements since June and it's really grown on me. Let's hope Apple improves the new Dock, too (removing the conflicting shadows would be a good thing to begin with).

[Xero]

I have to say. I'm not liking Leopard atm after installing and using it for a bit.

I don't like the non-rounded corners on the menu bar. It doesn't look right especially since all app windows and the finder windows have rounded corners.

The Front Row transition is just a plain boring fade to black now. Not like the desktop zoom we currently have in Tiger :( WTF?

Stacks is cool. But the font used is wrong, it looks like Arial and is not the standard system font.

The damn calculator widget still has the corrupt skin. This has been the same since the launch of Tiger. :(

Cover flow is nice but I think its overkill for the Finder. Its a neat addition to iTunes but I just find it cumbersome in Finder windows.

Full screen windows look horrible against the 3D Dock.

The shadows behind the Dock icons look wrong, especially against lighter backgrounds.

The iCal dynamic date update only happens to the Dock icon and not the app icon.

The Dock looks pants on the sides of the screen and also you cannot configure how to view a Stack while the Dock is on the side. It always defaults to "Grid" mode and the "View as" option is not available. :(

The icons in the Stack menu when viewed as a fan have jaggy edges and are not anti-aliased.

The Dock icon reflections are misplaced when the Dock is a smaller size than the default. The reflections appear underneath the icon. :wacko:

The Aqua scrollbars and buttons etc need to go. The don't fit at all with the new unified theme and look out of place.

Anyway. I hope there is another seed of Leopard before GM or at least the GM version is different.

Everything you said I completely agree with, finally someone with some sense. I sure as hell hope there will be some method via terminal to disable some of those pointless features like the obnoxious dock icon reflection.

However it is nice to hear its fairly stable. Anyone install Adobe CS3? They were saying it might not work properly under Leopard?

[iSimx]

I would be very surprised if it didnt work properly on leopard, but if there is, im sure it will be corrected.

[mattrobs]

I'm still waiting to see the final default wallpaper. A little too "stock photo" for Mac.

Does anyone know when the Aqua wallpapers came out in comparison to the release dates?

[iSimx]

I don't think they will be releasing aqua wallpapers for leopard??

[DrunkenMaster]

Some interesting developments. MacRumors is reporting that the developer builds of Leopard have ZFS read+write access. ZFS will eventually be a filesytem for OS X but not in initial 10.5 release and what TimeMachine will probably be recommended to run on. Release will have read-only ZFS access.

MacRumors: ZFS Confirmed in Leopard

This is a nice development to say the least. I can't wait to start up a pool of HDDs, esp with the costs coming down all the time. With a fast enough network, you could almost decentralize your desktop storage to another system with one of these systems. Horray!!!

Any reason where I might have been holding back on getting Leopard are now gone. I can only hope Apple truly does a point release with support. Though I wonder how this is going to work to upgrade HDDs unless you get a new DVD to boot from.