Mac OS X 'Leopard'-related Discussion

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Simply because files will get left behind and thousands of things can go wrong. However, I done a upgrade install, Leopard uses more CPU Usage Tiger but it seams to be calming down a little now. Framerates are a little bad, I mean, sometimes you can really see the dock struggle to magnify, but those symptoms seam to be happening less and less. Over all though... I'm not impressed, it's got loads of new tech inside it and stuff, but the UI isnt as nice as Tiger with Uno applied.

To Raskren: So why is it that Doom 3 uses both cores in Vista but only one in XP then? Applications dont need to be multi threaded because Vista can direct applications to run differently. And on another note, you've never had anything nice to say about anyone on the Mac forums. It's just a constant fraking argument and I'm absolutely sick of it.

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Simply because files will get left behind and thousands of things can go wrong. However, I done a upgrade install, Leopard uses more CPU Usage Tiger but it seams to be calming down a little now. Framerates are a little bad, I mean, sometimes you can really see the dock struggle to magnify, but those symptoms seam to be happening less and less. Over all though... I'm not impressed, it's got loads of new tech inside it and stuff, but the UI isnt as nice as Tiger with Uno applied.

Thats odd that your Macbook struggles to magnify... My Powerbook G4 has no problem doing it, it has to be with the video card as that is the only thing more powerful in mine then yours.

My Powerbook G4 specs:

G4 1.67GHz

1GB of DDR2 667MHz RAM

80GB HD

128MB Radeon 9700

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Simply because files will get left behind and thousands of things can go wrong. However, I done a upgrade install, Leopard uses more CPU Usage Tiger but it seams to be calming down a little now. Framerates are a little bad, I mean, sometimes you can really see the dock struggle to magnify, but those symptoms seam to be happening less and less. Over all though... I'm not impressed, it's got loads of new tech inside it and stuff, but the UI isnt as nice as Tiger with Uno applied.

To Raskren: So why is it that Doom 3 uses both cores in Vista but only one in XP then? Applications dont need to be multi threaded because Vista can direct applications to run differently. And on another note, you've never had anything nice to say about anyone on the Mac forums. It's just a constant fraking argument and I'm absolutely sick of it.

If you done an Upgrade Install and your having problems maybe Clean Install is in order. ;)

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To Raskren: So why is it that Doom 3 uses both cores in Vista but only one in XP then? Applications dont need to be multi threaded because Vista can direct applications to run differently. And on another note, you've never had anything nice to say about anyone on the Mac forums. It's just a constant fraking argument and I'm absolutely sick of it.

I'm disputing your facts (apparently that's against the rules in the Mac forum?). If you don't like it, report my posts and see what a moderator thinks.

Neither Mac OS X nor Vista can split a single threaded application into multiple threads. The app has to be programmed that way from the start.

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Most are saying it runs cooler now. Probably because before a lot of apps were single threaded and took a while for one core to do but now that both cores can do it in much less time it probably makes a lot less heat that way.

In theory a multi-threaded app should take slightly more CPU overhead to manage both cores. It may also utilize more Level 1 and Level 2 cache (L2 cache makes up most of on-die real estate).

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In theory a multi-threaded app should take slightly more CPU overhead to manage both cores. It may also utilize more Level 1 and Level 2 cache (L2 cache makes up most of on-die real estate).

Well then I'm not sure the reason why people are getting faster and still creating less heat.

For someone who dislikes Apple you sure like to read Apple topics a lot :).

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Well then I'm not sure the reason why people are getting faster and still creating less heat.

For someone who dislikes Apple you sure like to read Apple topics a lot :) .

Maybe less OS overhead?

Why is there such hostility against me in this forum?

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Leopard is amazing.

Terminal with the pro theme.

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Can't stress enough how much more intuitive and easier things are. If you guys are like me, you'll have a ton of PDFs scattered around your computer. So the easiest way to fix this was to basically make a smart folder which indexes all your PDFs. That in conjunction with cover flow previews (where I can browse each page) and quick look for an even larger one is freaking AWESOME.

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Great news for Canon photographers. Cover Flow and Quick Look work flawlessly (and quite fast I might add) with .CR2 raws. ^.^

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So. You can select more than one item and quick look to slideshow/scroll or even go into index mode.

My walls folder:

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Wow those are some nice screens. Terminal looks sweet and tab terminals will definitely be a great tool.

This is all good and true, but do a lot of people here actually use the Terminal extensively everyday? I think the only time I've ever been in it was to move the Dock to the top of the screen.

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This is all good and true, but do a lot of people here actually use the Terminal extensively everyday? I think the only time I've ever been in it was to move the Dock to the top of the screen.

Terminal is so much quicker when moving, deleting large batches of files. Once you learn the commands its just second nature and a hell of a lot faster than to go through finder.

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Just a question, I remember when back when there was a concept presented by steve jobs of searchable menu's using spotlight. Is this feature still persistent in the GM version of leopard :s ? I thought that was one of the best features i've ever heard of.

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This is all good and true, but do a lot of people here actually use the Terminal extensively everyday? I think the only time I've ever been in it was to move the Dock to the top of the screen.

When was the last time you read a stack trace or managed an application that ran on 400 machines? Just because a given feature is not useful for your daily workflow doesn't mean the updates aren't significant for others. For programmers, system administrators, scientific research types updates to command line tools are important.

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Just a question, I remember when back when there was a concept presented by steve jobs of searchable menu's using spotlight. Is this feature still persistent in the GM version of leopard :s ? I thought that was one of the best features i've ever heard of.

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SnowRanger13

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This is all good and true, but do a lot of people here actually use the Terminal extensively everyday? I think the only time I've ever been in it was to move the Dock to the top of the screen.

Home use I don't use it much, but for tweaking some advanced server config it's the way to go. Apple has server set up pretty easy with OS X Server but I still end up using terminal with some things.

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Yeah, I'm thinking I need to do a clean install some time soon, but it's so much hassle to reinstall all my apps. Bah, Photoshop is really the only application that'll be a hassle.

As for my framerate issues i'm pretty sure it's the GPU thats giving me the issues

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Yeah, I'm thinking I need to do a clean install some time soon, but it's so much hassle to reinstall all my apps. Bah, Photoshop is really the only application that'll be a hassle.

As for my framerate issues i'm pretty sure it's the GPU thats giving me the issues

I have a Macbook and don't get any framerate issues? Can you be more specific? Everything is smooth and fast here. :s

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