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that looks hot. When are you going to release that? And will you need third party software?

I just did a clean install of Leopard. I had a archive and install but this is much faster after clean, gawd i love leopard.

It will need Shapeshifter for sure, maybe a couple others for the "Full" experience. Going to take some time to adjust to Leopard, going to try and skin the docks glass floor as well.

Btw, Spaces is awesome, have a nice space dedicated to a nice fullscreen iTunes :)

ok I did an upgrade and here is some feedback...... ( iMac C2D 2.4Ghz 2gb )

install went smooth as you would expect, first time booting into leopard thought i had the BBOD but no I was just being impatient. All apps seem to be working bar the theme type apps like Shapshifter, Candy e.t.c. bar but no big deal there as the new interface is clean and uniform accross the OS.

APPS no longer needed....

Quicksilver - Spotlight is lightning fast and launches all apps, docs without fault ( i know some of you use advanced features but i don;'t )

AppZapper - as above because spotlight is fast and thorough.

Candybar

Shapeshifter - for now not needed but be interesting to see if any new themes can take advantage of the Core Animation e.t.c. :)

ADOBE ACROBAT - Preview is just so much better for PDFs and combine this with QuickLook there just is no need for Acrobat.

PROBLEMS

Spamsieve not currently working with Mail

Growl not currently working with Mail

When connecting to network shares on my windows box the mount does not appear on the desktop.

Time Machine not working with a network shared drive - i understand this may not be possible but it would have been nice.

Overall it is very very quick and actually works as quick as when you see Apple perform the demos at the keynotes for a change :)

why o why are there no new games :(

That was the first install BUT....

I installed on my MBP C2D and the install got stuck on reboot with the Apple logo for 4 hours !!! I had to reboot same again, so i went through the installation again this time i left it over night and got a login window.

But it would not recognize my password.

Booted of the Leopard DVD and used the password reset option, saved, rebooted still doesnt recognize my password even though the password reset utility found my user correctly.

I am now trying an Archive & Install to see if that works

This problem is appearing all over the net and possibly a BIG problem with the Leopard install lot of people getting a blue screen though.

If my reinstall doesnt work again, does ne1 know any terminal commands that I could run to add a user with root access

It will need Shapeshifter for sure, maybe a couple others for the "Full" experience. Going to take some time to adjust to Leopard, going to try and skin the docks glass floor as well.

Btw, Spaces is awesome, have a nice space dedicated to a nice fullscreen iTunes :)

yeah, i got an itunes space too :)

Seeing as they're removed netinfo manager how am I supposed to move the location of my home folder?

Edit, they've moved the functionality. It's in Account in System Preferences, just right click your username.

That looks a lot better and easier to use than NetInfo.

New Safari security dialog after trying to launch an app you've downloaded. ;)

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When you take a screenshot of a window in Leopard, does it capture the shadow? If so, I hope there's also a way to capture windows without them.

Yes, it captures the shadows now. Not sure if there is a way to capture without them though.

When you take a screenshot of a window in Leopard, does it capture the shadow? If so, I hope there's also a way to capture windows without them.

It does capture the shadow, but you could press Cmd+Shift+4 and drag a box around the window.

How are the huge shadows? In theory, it sounds great, but I can only imagine on a light background or over white windows they'll look jarring.

Yeah. they are meant to make the front-most window more "obvious". :laugh:

Another bug. If I have say Mail in one Space and go up to Preferences in the menu bar the preference window will open in Space 1 on its own. Seems to only happen with Mail though.

Also. If you have 4 Spaces for example with different apps and windows in each space then you go and add another 2 Spaces in the preferences all the existing apps and windows from the previous Spaces will consolidate into one Space. :(

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One bug I've found is when you return to your desktop from Front Row, the mouse cursor has disappeared. Anyone else got this problem?

I think its cause when you navigate through frontrow, it uses regular key commands (up down left right blah...) well if you press em on your keyboard while you're at the desktop you'll see the cursor vanishes too.

Hi guys, just went from every page from 80 to 99 to find a way to change the dock at the bottom back from the 2D to the 3D in terminal, any help would be greatly appreciated :)

To 2d:

defaults write com.apple.dock no-glass -boolean YES; killall Dock

From 2d to 3d:

defaults write com.apple.dock no-glass -boolean NO; killall Dock

Enjoy.

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