kinetix63 Veteran Posted January 3, 2007 Veteran Share Posted January 3, 2007 A fresh "Best Defragmenter" poll for 2007. Please use this as a reference when researching Defrag utilities. As time goes on, the poll can be updated to add further options. Happy voting! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/526716-definitive-best-defragmenter-2007/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 john0877 Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 my drive never has to spin up and spin down to keep up with the dvd drive. you must have crappy drives :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/526716-definitive-best-defragmenter-2007/page/5/#findComment-588544826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Imothep Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 O&O Defrag Pro To me, by far the best between Diskeeper and PerfectDisk. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/526716-definitive-best-defragmenter-2007/page/5/#findComment-588544900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 ZIPO Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 my drive never has to spin up and spin down to keep up with the dvd drive. you must have crappy drives :p No I just have a problem with Windows cache file. It decreases when a large file is being copied so that the system becomes less responsive. And fragmentation only makes things worse. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/526716-definitive-best-defragmenter-2007/page/5/#findComment-588544916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Jeremy of Many Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 When I refer to free space consolidation, I am not interested in having a pretty display or expecting significant improvement over the performance already present, but to reduce future fragmentation. If you have gaps between existing files, a newly written file is more likely to be fragmented moreso than it would be if you had made everything contiguous. John0877 is correct regarding the mechanical movements of the HDD. FSC helps reduce this. Another concern is the defragmentation and placement of directories. It is important to have the directories placed next to the MFT because of how file queries are managed. Basically, when you double-click a file, the drive reader has to query for its location in the MFT, then the directories in series (I think, not positive) until it reaches the file(s). If your directories are scattered (which is most likely because few defragmenters do directory placement), it's more work for the drive reader. Anyway, I'm testing 20 defragmenters and will post the results on my blog and several forums. Negative criticism, comments, discussion/debate, questions are all welcome. If my understanding is incorrect I welcome anyone with more knowledge to clarify. :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/526716-definitive-best-defragmenter-2007/page/5/#findComment-588545167 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Blaine Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 Anyway, I'm testing 20 defragmenters and will post the results on my blog and several forums. Have anything for us to read yet? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/526716-definitive-best-defragmenter-2007/page/5/#findComment-588550176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Jeremy of Many Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 Sometime this week, yes. I'm making a simple HTML based chart followed by explanations. These are the defragmenters I have tested: Ashampoo Magical Defrag 2 AusLogics Disk Defrag DirMS Diskeeper 2007 Diskeeper Lite HDiskDefrag IOBit SmartDefrag JKDefrag MindSoft Defrag MST Defrag O&O Defrag 2000 O&O Defrag Pro 8.6 PCMesh Defrag For Windows (Same as Abexo's Disk Defragmenter) PerfectDisk 8 Power Defrag Power Defragmenter + Contig SpeeDefrag UltimateDefrag Vopt Windows Defragmenter Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/526716-definitive-best-defragmenter-2007/page/5/#findComment-588553543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 MrBear5587 Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 Cool. Am looking forward to seeing your findings Jeremy (Y) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/526716-definitive-best-defragmenter-2007/page/5/#findComment-588554763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Pallab Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 I was just wondering how does one test a defragmentation software? For the results to be accurate exactly same data must be present at exactly the same spot on the hard disk for all the software. How are you achieving that? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/526716-definitive-best-defragmenter-2007/page/5/#findComment-588559106 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 [deXter] Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 I was just wondering how does one test a defragmentation software?For the results to be accurate exactly same data must be present at exactly the same spot on the hard disk for all the software. How are you achieving that? The first step is to mess up a drive so that it's suitably fragmented. The next step is to ensure that no 'interfering' services/programs are enabled on startup, like antivirus, updaters, services of other defragmenters, programs that create temp files, etc. Once the drive is ready, it's imaged to another drive using software like Norton Ghost or Acronis True Image. Imaging programs can create an exact sector-to-sector clone of a drive. After the test is done, the image is restored again for the next test. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/526716-definitive-best-defragmenter-2007/page/5/#findComment-588559301 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Pallab Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 The first step is to mess up a drive so that it's suitably fragmented. The next step is to ensure that no 'interfering' services/programs are enabled on startup, like antivirus, updaters, services of other defragmenters, programs that create temp files, etc. Once the drive is ready, it's imaged to another drive using software like Norton Ghost or Acronis True Image. Imaging programs can create an exact sector-to-sector clone of a drive. After the test is done, the image is restored again for the next test. Ok. Thanks :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/526716-definitive-best-defragmenter-2007/page/5/#findComment-588559536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Jeremy of Many Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 The results will not be available until next week sometime due to spontaneous circumstances. I'm doing this virtually in VMware Workstation where the snapshots save file locations on the virtual disk. The fragmentation level in the original snapshot is 29-30% of the virtual disk. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/526716-definitive-best-defragmenter-2007/page/5/#findComment-588560195 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 deleted-user-9812 Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 Diskeeper 2007! Then PerfecDisk. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/526716-definitive-best-defragmenter-2007/page/5/#findComment-588562011 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 gadean Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 I used to use PerfectDisk but with Diskeeper2007 the auto defrag works so well I had to buy it. Prior versions of Diskeeper were okay but never quite good enough to purchase. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/526716-definitive-best-defragmenter-2007/page/5/#findComment-588562054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 soldier1st Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 i keep switching between perfectdisk 8 and diskeeper 2007 so these results may help. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/526716-definitive-best-defragmenter-2007/page/5/#findComment-588562370 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 BryanChung Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 I recently switched to Diskeeper 2007 after [dExTeR]'s recommendation :p Moreover with auto defrag! :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/526716-definitive-best-defragmenter-2007/page/5/#findComment-588562466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Jeremy of Many Posted May 27, 2007 Share Posted May 27, 2007 Hey everyone! Just wanted you all to know that I am progressing well with my results and should hopefully have them out next week sometime. I'm trying to make the information as detailed and thorough as possible. It will also be unbiased; no favoritism whatsoever. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/526716-definitive-best-defragmenter-2007/page/5/#findComment-588583130 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Lomond Posted May 27, 2007 Share Posted May 27, 2007 I prefer O&O Defrag in new version 10. Background defrag and 5 different methods of defragmentation. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/526716-definitive-best-defragmenter-2007/page/5/#findComment-588584430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Jeremy of Many Posted May 29, 2007 Share Posted May 29, 2007 I prefer O&O Defrag in new version 10. Background defrag and 5 different methods of defragmentation. Same thing in 8.6, 10.0 is just a new UI and some memory enhancements according to a changelog I viewed a while back. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/526716-definitive-best-defragmenter-2007/page/5/#findComment-588587964 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Blaine Posted May 29, 2007 Share Posted May 29, 2007 I recently switched to Diskeeper 2007 after [dExTeR]'s recommendation :p Moreover with auto defrag! :D haha, same!!! We talked some through pm's, and then he convinced me to buy it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/526716-definitive-best-defragmenter-2007/page/5/#findComment-588587978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 migo Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 Anyone know how an automatic defragger would contribute to quicker HD failure? I've got a 4200RPM hard drive, so if it's jumping around too much it can die pretty quickly. Going for empty CPU cycles is fine, but I have a feeling my hard drive might die quicker if it's continuously defragging and doesn't get a break. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/526716-definitive-best-defragmenter-2007/page/5/#findComment-588595204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Pallab Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 Well it definitely does increase disk thrashing. It's continuously defragging the drive. I dont like that. I definitely feel its unneccesary. And without automatic defrag also you should not defrag too often. Not more than once a week. I generally defrag once a month. Thats generally good enough. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/526716-definitive-best-defragmenter-2007/page/5/#findComment-588601393 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Jeremy of Many Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 Anyone know how an automatic defragger would contribute to quicker HD failure?I've got a 4200RPM hard drive, so if it's jumping around too much it can die pretty quickly. Going for empty CPU cycles is fine, but I have a feeling my hard drive might die quicker if it's continuously defragging and doesn't get a break. Get a Seagate 300GB SATA2 NCQ drive. ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/526716-definitive-best-defragmenter-2007/page/5/#findComment-588603256 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 migo Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 I'm on a laptop.... 2.5" IDE only. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/526716-definitive-best-defragmenter-2007/page/5/#findComment-588603657 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 ZIPO Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 Jeremy, what happened to that test? It was supposed to be out last week, right? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/526716-definitive-best-defragmenter-2007/page/5/#findComment-588604615 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 KenGo Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 Other - I love UltimateDefrag by disktrix. http://www.disktrix.com/ KenGo edit-never tested on XP, only on Vista, though. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/526716-definitive-best-defragmenter-2007/page/5/#findComment-588608339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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A fresh "Best Defragmenter" poll for 2007. Please use this as a reference when researching Defrag utilities. As time goes on, the poll can be updated to add further options.
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