Puzzle Box 2

[Aeschylus Maximus]

I also found this to be a funny coincidence..

If you notice that the last puzzle is titled "people disappear"... I did a search with Ask.com for those two words.. and this came up towards the top:

http://www.skeptictank.org/hs/vanish.htm

lol... Coincidence that the name of the article is the same as the game???

The only thing that i think people disappear means is that the next puzzle box will be about history

[SWAMMIE]

There's NO QUESTION that this game has been overdone about 1000 times to much... It was just something I thought was funny more than anything...

[Walmer]

Wow, if this set of puzzles has only been done for a day, I can't wait to see the overanalyzing after a week of waiting for a new set of puzzles. :)

[chriscross93]

This is a full summary of the Vanishing Point Game up to date. It has all the codes we got so far, the pre-game info, the meta puzzle, all the white box locations and more. Download from>>>> http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/59985/VPG-COM-doc.html (Word document)

http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/60219/VPG-COM-pdf.html (PDF)

Have you updated this file since the last time you posted this?

[reddawnz]

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[confusio]

OK, talking about overanalyzing (heck we need something to do for a week !! hehe) here are the transcripts for

the three videos we have so far (I didn't include the one from the event in Vegas, not sure if there are any more clues in there).

I watched/listened the videos many times in slow speed, I may have some errors and I still have some blanks

I marked with **** (feel free to fill in the blanks and correct if something is wrong).

Don't know how many clues we may find, but I'm strongly convinced that there are many...

some food for thought in my next post.

Video 0 - hearthchalenge.wmv

Title: Hear the Challenge - Game home page

Set: Hotel Room

Transcript:

Absolutely not, that wasn?t our deal, our deal was I?ll give away extraordinary prices to exceptional people, and you will be happy.

Yeah I know it?s expensive, but these people are way ahead of the curve.

If you want to interest them, your prizes better be worth their while?

No, I can?t come to the office to explain, I can?t, I?ve gotta catch a plane the eighth is coming fast.

Right, you?ll be glad you wrote the check, I promise you, it will be timeless.

Yeah, I know, some of the puzzles are ridiculously hard, believe me the people you are looking for, can handle it, the real trick is, can they solve them in time?

If they need help they can always search for the vanishing point tag.

Sigh. The vanishing point? ?It?s where things disappear, remember?

No. no, no, come on, I?m not just doing it for the trip to Vegas, we are gonna make someone famous around the world, although I?d said for a girl with a photographic memory Vegas is a very profitable city.

Look, you hired me to pull up this stunt that nobody else could possibly do, the stage is set, the time is right and I haven?t forgotten a thing.

I have to get off the phone now.

Yes I do, time for me to vanish.

It?s too late to back out now, we?ve started, and there is no turning back.

Video 1 ? loki_time.wmv

Title: Video 1 - End of puzzle box

Set: Some sort of backstage A/V production facility

Transcript:

You are my hourglass, the fastest you work the faster the sun runs out on me.

That?s right, at the end of this challenge I will cease to exist, every puzzle you solve takes me a little closer to my own vanishing point.

I don?t like talking about myself I don?t like being noticed, but I wanted to tell you a little bit of my history, after all you?ve earned it, right?

My job is to giveaway spectacular prices to incredible people in the most challenging way possible.

Am I lucky or what?

How I?ve get this gig? I graduated with a quadruple major, physics, stage art, history and folklore, all and all in two years? but my grades were not that outstanding, I got a lot of call from recruiters but only one noticed that my GPA was exactly 3.1416.

That?s harder to arrange than you may think.

Ok, enough confession for now, if you are smart as I think you are, we?ll talk again.

Video 2 ? loki_640_magicweb_011107.wmv

Title: Video 2 - End of puzzle box 2

Set: Some sort of backstage A/V production facility, same as Video1

Transcript:

Congratulations. That?s 24 puzzles down, only 24 before I disappear.

I guess your kind of a magician too, you?ve sawed a lady in half ?

All right so where was I, oh right, so I?m in this room with the one recruiter, usually these guys ask you about your research, or your grades, but this guy looks me in the eye and says tell me about a time you made something disappear ?.

I told him about disappearing my chemistry professor?s office, I took the door down, I **** hinges, laid up a little bit of drywall, some whitewash and you can?t forget about the baseboards, and I hanged on of those big huge billboards across the walls advertising swim meets, or book swaps, so the next morning he shows up for office hours, no office..

He trans around, I?m standing at the end of the hallway trying to keep myself from laughing, he starts on the corridor reading the name plates on every door.

Took him about two weeks to think about prying into the window.

So the recruiter says, wow, but can you ***** if hire you ?

And I said, hey give me the job and I?ll be giving you your watch back.

Edited January 15, 2007 by confusio

[spalding80]

Yea, that might work. If you know how to edit cookies.

I don't think it has to do with the cookies. If you are not logged in and go to collectionplate it shows a 0. It takes you signing in which would give collectionplate a point of reference. The only thing I can think of is trying to access the other sites within vanishingpoint.com. The puzzles are www.vanishingpointgame.com/shell_time then magic. Does anyone think that you could access the boxes before the timer hits zero, or on_the_run and collectionplate, access the links before the video comes? I know its a bit of a crapshoot, but we do have 5 days of nothing to do. Just a thought.

[SnotRocket]

I don't if you guys have already seen this or not. I'm not going to read through 53+ pages to find out. If you follow this link: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/community/default.mspx near the bottom-left portion of the page is an image is related to the game.

It's caption is "Most of you won't figure this out." and "vanishingpointgame.com"

[Interface7]

Does rabbit trail have somethnig to do with point 8 being near "moon" like the goal of the contest?

Why does my rabbit trail puzzle say it has been solved already?????

[confusio]

OK, following up from my previous post with the transcripts. I don't know how much effort/work these guys put to

create the history script the scenes, choose the words, etc.

We know that most probably "Loki" is a fictional character for the game played by a professional actress, and

that "her" full name is Lorelei or Loreley Kitsune that is linked with Japanese folklore, a red fox, trickster and

the "murmuring rock", she presents herself as a very smart person, with abilities as such that makes her

the only person "to pull up this stunt that nobody else could possibly do".

It's obvious that the story line in the videos is fully scripted, like the clue about her quadruple majors that

coincidentially are the four themes of the game, or her personal history, and particularly from the last video (Video 2)

the whole thing about the office prank (that we already know may have been inspired in the old MIT prank)

and the interview with the recruiter.

Now, watching the videos over and over I noticed that in the first (Video 0) and second (Video 1) videos when

she says "right" she pulls her glasses down. Call me crazy but to me it looks that the gesture is actually

part of the script in the way she particulary does it on Video 1. What it means ? no clue yet.

But ... some dude in the unfiction forum found the attached picture at http://vanishingpointgame.com/images/loki.jpg

(the picture is still in the site as I write this, not sure if they will remove it when they notice we found it).

Coincidence ?

Now the whole dialog about the proffesor's office prank, there are couple of things that for me feel like clues,

such us "doors", "name plates", "swim meets", "book swaps", "office hours", "whitewash",

"billboard", etc, and she makes a strange pause and emphasys when she says "and you can't forget the baseboards".

Also, I mentioned this before, on the very first video (Video 0) she puts four watches in a box, but keeps one

on her hand, that is shown again on Video 1, and could be related to the dialog on Video 2 when she says

to the recruiter "And I said, hey give me the job and I?ll be giving you your watch back".

Who is the recruiter anyway and why the hole story is relevant for the game ? may be the one who

interviewed her to do this stunt ?

What do you think ?

I better take a break before I start seeing little green people in my window ...

Cheers

PS I'll post some technical details in another message later ...

Edited January 15, 2007 by confusio

[Aeschylus Maximus]

This is a full summary of the Vanishing Point Game up to date. It has all the codes we got so far, the pre-game info, the meta puzzle, all the white box locations and more. Download from>>>> http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/59985/VPG-COM-doc.html (Word document)

http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/60219/VPG-COM-pdf.html (PDF)

Have you updated this file since the last time you posted this?

Yes i check the forums everyday and try to solve some puzzles too so this file is always updated.

[confusio]

I don't if you guys have already seen this or not. I'm not going to read through 53+ pages to find out. If you follow this link: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/community/default.mspx near the bottom-left portion of the page is an image is related to the game.

It's caption is "Most of you won't figure this out." and "vanishingpointgame.com"

That's part of the pregame thingy ...

[mox6]

OK, following up from my previous post with the transcripts. I don't know how much effort/work these guys put to

create the history script the scenes, choose the words, etc.

Now the whole dialog about the proffesor's officer prank, there are couple of things that for me feel like clues,

such us "doors", "name plates", " swimmies" (the only ones I know are the floating devices for kids, and who

the heck will post something about swimmies in a college billboard), "book swaps", "office hours", "whitewash",

"billboard", etc, and she makes a strange pause and emphasys when she says "and you can't forget the baseboards".

Cheers

Hey confusio,

Its NOT Swimmies... Its Swim Meets.

[confusio]

Its NOT Swimmies!!.... Its Swim Meets!

And what does it mean ?

[mox6]

And what does it mean ?

Its game-meaning.. is unknown.. and i doubt it has a meaning.. but swim meets just means the swimming team has a meeting or practice or competition..

[confusio]

Hey confusio,

Its NOT Swimmies... Its Swim Meets.

Got it, got it, changed the transcript, now it sounds like that when a listened again.

[Karl Sheldon]

Well had a day away from this to clear my mind a bit and think afresh about the meta game, caught up with some pages and well does anyone ever sleep. (I Know I don't)

Well the counters are definatly not cookie related as I have reinstall PC today (MS updates doh!)

I have my 18 secure white boxes still -good - did not realy want all that again.

Glad they re-enabled tham all last night. Good Stuff

To the Video and the covered up wall - confused - don't think the MIS one is the correct one as its the Presidents office and she is very clear in the video about the chemistry professor - come to think of it since when did she study chemistry anyway - could be a bluff. Not sure but think we need a bit more investigation, also doubt we are meant to call MIT but is there an MS/AMD link here someplace??

White box coat of arms - college badge maybe ? I feel I have seen it before someplace, buged me all day.

Video definatly gives us something to do this week and further email/phone work for sure, they saw haw we devoured it last week so sure there is more to come.

Lets have some fun !

[godwi014]

Hey,

I have found an image hidden on the collection plate site. If you go to the site and select all, it will highlight the image. I pasted it into word and it is a small pic of what looks like the letter "J". You can bring it up in script editor and view alot more script, not sure if this is anything?

[confusio]

Well had a day away from this to clear my mind a bit and think afresh about the meta game, caught up with some pages and well does anyone ever sleep. (I Know I don't)

Well the counters are definatly not cookie related as I have reinstall PC today (MS updates doh!)

I have my 18 secure white boxes still -good - did not realy want all that again.

Glad they re-enabled tham all last night. Good Stuff

To the Video and the covered up wall - confused - don't think the MIS one is the correct one as its the Presidents office and she is very clear in the video about the chemistry professor - come to think of it since when did she study chemistry anyway - could be a bluff. Not sure but think we need a bit more investigation, also doubt we are meant to call MIT but is there an MS/AMD link here someplace??

White box coat of arms - college badge maybe ? I feel I have seen it before someplace, buged me all day.

Video definatly gives us something to do this week and further email/phone work for sure, they saw haw we devoured it last week so sure there is more to come.

Lets have some fun !

Yeah it's fun, we are creating a lot of buzz that is what they wanted, and it's an interesting way of excercising our collective mind.

I don't believe they expected to have the puzzles solved in just few hours, again msft and Mr. Bill understimated the power of

a chaotic interconnected group of smart and enthusiastic people, not just computers, routers and software.

I hope that they also learn from this experience and for the next launch we are talking about something like "Open Vista".

Sooner or later they will realize that they can make much more money if they trust the "collective mind" and

move away from spending a lot of money and too much time in developing crapy software.

I'd love to see them innovate instead of producing massive code upgrades with just a new product name.

Just my humble opinion

Cheers

Edited January 15, 2007 by confusio

[Apogee]

Hey,

I have found an image hidden on the collection plate site. If you go to the site and select all, it will highlight the image. I pasted it into word and it is a small pic of what looks like the letter "J". You can bring it up in script editor and view alot more script, not sure if this is anything?

Can you post it? I can't get it to select all.

[godwi014]

Can you post it? I can't get it to select all.

I will try, you have to click over on the right of the site to get in the right frame and then ctrl+a. Maybe that will help.

[Orph]

This is my first post on the forums but I have been here from the start so I'd just like to say hi to everyone.....anyway,

In response to this:

Hey,

I have found an image hidden on the collection plate site. If you go to the site and select all, it will highlight the image. I pasted it into word and it is a small pic of what looks like the letter "J". You can bring it up in script editor and view alot more script, not sure if this is anything?

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I think your "J" is simply an icon for javascript, as the page contains jave

Also I found a site which I am pretty sure is not in-game but you never know, http://www.vanishingpointgame.info/

I looked up the whois info for the site and don't see a problem posting it as it is public info:

Domain Name:VANISHINGPOINTGAME.INFO

Created On:11-Jan-2007 06:09:31 UTC

Last Updated On:11-Jan-2007 07:06:12 UTC

Expiration Date:11-Jan-2008 06:09:31 UTC

Sponsoring Registrar:Go Daddy Software Inc (R171-LRMS)

Registrant Name:steve guntrip

Registrant Country:NZ

Interesting to note the site was registered with GO Daddy and also Steve Guntrip is a member of the band that the site links to

http://www.myspace.com/themanagersband

http://www.themanagers.co.nz/

The guys email address and phone number is available on whois, anyone want to ring him? what do people think?

Also I noticed the Windows Launch countdown on this page http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/community/default.mspx

and it looks like it will co-incide with the end of vanishing point (or the opening of the last box anyway)

Also in the last video when Loki mentions it took 2 weeks for the Professor to climb in the window, this could be lated to the new WINDOWS becoming accessible in two weeks (Retail anyway)

Also the site http://hacks.mit.edu/Hacks/by_year/1990/vest_bboard/

which has the article about the Prank at MIT also contains the following info just below the title

Location: 3-208

Date: October 15, 1990

Maybe Loki mentioned the prank to get us to see this info?

Edited January 15, 2007 by Orph

[nuguy]

OT but...

Frustration with this gravity lock puzzle. This one I think is broken.

The small red square is the white box, the larger red square is the solution entry box and button. I am not able to see the small white box unless I push the reset button. Once pushed the white box appears but it is inactive the box is not visable unless I push the reset button. Wonder if this is how everyone sees it?

Strange.

Hope someone will have an idea as to how to get this to work. I've tried everything I could think of. I am using IE 7 but tried it with FF and got the same result.

BTW if I can get this to work I'll have 18 of 36.

[Audiobuc]

Hey I'm new around here, but I thought I would just add a little to the mix.

I did a search on quadruple majors. I found a short link on a man named Jay Dweck who was a quadruple major at MIT in 1977. He finished up in 2 years with the following degrees : SB in Chemical Engineering, SB in Mathematics, CHE in Chemical Engineering, and SM in Chemical Engineering.

http://www.mitadmissions.org/topics/learni...ok_at_jay.shtml

Loki claims she finished in two years in a quad major, and then tells a story the is similar to one at MIT, only she was pulling the prank on her chemistry prof. Mr Dweck matches the quad major at the same university, only he majored in Chemistry. He later went on to become the CTO at Goldman Sachs.

This may not mean anything, but I thought I would throw it out there.

[no.fear]

I have had the same problem a few times.... I figured out something that might help...

Go to the puzzle "HEADLINER" in the 2nd box and see if the WHITE BOX is there also... if it is.. click it.. the one in the brick.. lower left..

If you have 17 out of 18 and the posters one keeps showing up.. this may fix it...

My puzzle piece count shows 18 out of 36 now like it should.. even though the POSTERS box is still showing up..

You may also want to go back and see if any of the other boxes have reappeared.. I did that and it worked..

thanks, it did work, I found a reappeared box in seven card monte and counter shows 18 after I click on that one. However, other box on the posters still reappears.

someone talked about cookies being modified for the counter. i dont think counter has anything to do with the counter; otherwise did anyone try to modify the cookies to get 38 of 38 count and that should lead to the final question?