Puzzle Box 4

[malcolmst]

Apparently there's two Tanli's in China :o But they're both SW of Inari...

http://www.fallingrain.com/world/CH/1/Tanli.html

Latitude 29.8000

Longitude 117.4500

http://www.fallingrain.com/world/CH/16/Tanli.html

Latitude 23.3317

Longitude 108.3656

[Aeschylus Maximus]

Everyone seems to agree that Odessa is the "O" in L.O.K.I. However, I have to wonder why they gave us the coat of arms of "Odessa Oblast" (ie. the province) rather than just "Odessa" which has a less elaborate coat of arms (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odessa).

According to Wikipedia, Odessa Oblast is known by the single word Odeshchyna. Could that be the O name we're looking for?

Well in Russian oblast means just county. or area

[hozie1]

Apparently there's two Tanli's in China :o But they're both SW of Inari...

http://www.fallingrain.com/world/CH/1/Tanli.html

Latitude 29.8000

Longitude 117.4500

http://www.fallingrain.com/world/CH/16/Tanli.html

Latitude 23.3317

Longitude 108.3656

To me the fact that TANLI is all in caps on the page seems suspect. Almost points to TANLI being an anogram.

To me the fact that TANLI is all in caps on the page seems suspect. Almost points to TANLI being an anogram.

since i still (and probably never will) cant click on my final white box, can someone tell me if there is an email address to contact Loki, or is there a form type thing on the final page to fill the names into?

[mauriziocorso77]

Just for those people wanting a quick recap of all directions.

RIGHT

UP

RIGHT

DOWN

LEFT

DOWN

LEFT

DOWN

[lagunite]

Did anyone notice that in the /lokiv video that they were trying to draw a link between a few things....

Each of the girls except the last one on the right was holding an item....

1. Watch --> Major 1 = Physics --> Puzzle Box 1 = Time --> /on_the_run --> Lorelei

2. Magicians Wand --> Major 2 = Stage Arts --> Puzzle Box 2 = Magic --> /collectionplate --> Odessa

3. Herodotus Histories --> Major 3 = History --> Puzzle Box 3 = History --> /more_answers --> Kara

4. <nothing> --> Major 4 = Folklore --> Puzzle Box 4 = Vanish --> /roamingroaming --> ??? TANLI/Mystery Spot --> ??? Ames Room/Perspective ???

Why would the last girl not have something to represent her Major and/or Puzzle box theme?... did she say something that is an additional clue? Is there some other relevance to this absence?

There also might be an overlooked pattern here...

Odessa was an ancient Greek settlement, why would that not be linked with History?

Lorelei was a legend, why would that not be linked with Folklore?

Kara was a cypher, why would that not be linked with Physics?

So if there is supposed to be a relationship between Loki's name(s) and the themes, then you would conclude that the final name is related to Stage Arts.

If you believe that the Mystery Spot is an Ames Room which is a perspective trick, doesn't that bring us back to the Magic box 2 and the Post Cards puzzle where the answer to "How do they do that?" is truely "Perspective" (even though the puzzle answer was t nelson downs). And then there is the little switch they did when the puzzle was solved where they changed the original image of the train to..... a girl sitting in a chair with nothing in her hands... kind of like the 4th girl in the /lokiv video.

It seems to me that there has been an additional layer of clues and relationships provided from the start that must some how help in tieing this whole thing together.

I think that last name has some relationship to Stage Arts. It might help confirm that the "Mystery Spot" (which is capitalized and could definitely mean the name of a place) is indeed the place in Santa Cruz, but it may also help guide on correlating the TANLI clude and the final location of the /roamingroaming clue into the true name we are looking for.... I don't buy the couple "I"'s postulated so far.

Any thoughts?... And does someone have an accurate tool for plotting the path on a map for this last clue?

[crowen]

Everyone seems to agree that Odessa is the "O" in L.O.K.I. However, I have to wonder why they gave us the coat of arms of "Odessa Oblast" (ie. the province) rather than just "Odessa" which has a less elaborate coat of arms (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odessa).

According to Wikipedia, Odessa Oblast is known by the single word Odeshchyna. Could that be the O name we're looking for?

Yes but that same article says that odessa IS the adminstrative town of Odessa Oblast so it has the same chance of being correct

[astro_boy]

Has anyone noticed that the abbreviation of Mystery Spot is MS?

Perhaps we need to begin our directions from Microsoft headquarters...

[jd1288]

I think the Santa Cruz idea is worthless considering that there are dozens of "mystery spots" around the US. If you think the santa cruz theory is viable, you should check to see if any other mystery spots lead to an "i" town. Here's a list:www.roadsideamerica.com/set/SCIspots.html

The only one I know of not on the list is located in St. Ignace Michigan

[novastar]

I want to point something out, the distances provided are extremely specific, down to almost feet!!! unless we have an extremely specific starting location then you'll never be able to find the exact coordinates of the destination. Maybe the distance mean something else?

...just a thought

[signalpirate]

you guys ... you know what ??? i think i would pass on the grand prize to tell you the truth ..

$pace flight

[hozie1]

you guys ... you know what ??? i think i would pass on the grand prize to tell you the truth ..

$pace flight

It says they are also awarding cash to offset the tax penalty along with that prize.

[fuhshizzle]

First time post, but I will say that I have enjoyed being a fly on the wall here.

My thought is that the mystery point lies in the map of the pyramids of giza from box 3.

I also believe that to get to the location, the calculation must take into account the value of pi. Pi has played too large a role in this game for it to not be considered. I don't know the formula, but certainly someone here does...

[signalpirate]

It says they are also awarding cash to offset the tax penalty along with that prize.

Since the Internal Revenue Service requires winnings from lottery drawings, TV game shows and other contests to be reported as taxable income, tax experts contend there's no such thing as a free spaceflight. Some contest sponsors provide a check to cover taxes, but that income is also taxable

[malcolmst]

I can't figure out how up/down were solved from the videos. I went through all of them, and this is what I got (including when she touches her glasses or makes a comment about a direction):

Pregame video

Left

"Right"

Video 1

Right

"after all, you've earned it, RIGHT"

Video 2

Left

"Shows UP for office hours"

Video 3

Right

"only 12 puzzles LEFT"

Video 4

Left

"one more riddle LEFT"

Am I missing something? :s

[hozie1]

Yes, the $50,000 check is also taxable, however the greater portion of the value of the prize (hence where most of the tax comes from) is the portion of the prize other than the check. So, the check will probably be enough to cover the tax owed. Adding a $50,000 check to a prize worth $250,000 (or whatever) will not increase the tax owed by $50,000.

[mauriziocorso77]

I can't figure out how up/down were solved from the videos. I went through all of them, and this is what I got (including when she touches her glasses or makes a comment about a direction):

Pregame video

Left

"Right"

Video 1

Right

"after all, you've earned it, RIGHT"

Video 2

Left

"Shows UP for office hours"

Video 3

Right

"only 12 puzzles LEFT"

Video 4

Left

"one more riddle LEFT"

Am I missing something? :s

Only about 3 videos

[nosajretsim]

yes, but they are giving 50,000 dollars...the article says it's about 25 in taxes....and the tax on the 50 grand is probably close to 10....so you're still looking at some pocket money.

[lagunite]

I think the Santa Cruz idea is worthless considering that there are dozens of "mystery spots" around the US. If you think the santa cruz theory is viable, you should check to see if any other mystery spots lead to an "i" town. Here's a list:www.roadsideamerica.com/set/SCIspots.html

The only one I know of not on the list is located in St. Ignace Michigan

you could be right, but I think there is something to that "vanishing girl in a chair" element in the Postcard trick.... This whole thing has been about Loki vanishing... and there still is no explaination why the train just flipped to a girl after the puzzle was solved. And, while not as strong a clue, I also still think there is some element to Stage Arts in the determination of the final name.

[malcolmst]

Only about 3 videos

Oh.. lol, ok. Forgot to include the clue videos. So we're making the assumption that right-right means down, and right-left up?

[mauriziocorso77]

Oh.. lol, ok. Forgot to include the clue videos. So we're making the assumption that right-right means down, and right-left up?

we arent assuming anything. L.O.K.I actually said 'down' and 'up' in the videos.

[astro_boy]

Oh.. lol, ok. Forgot to include the clue videos. So we're making the assumption that right-right means down, and right-left up?

I think you're confused!

The order is:

RIGHT (Right!)

UP (up into space)

RIGHT (... right?)

DOWN (24 puzzles down)

LEFT (12 puzzles left)

DOWN (should have written down)

LEFT (no puzzles left)

DOWN (time for us to put her down)

There is one clue given in each video of Loki, the word is emphasised as she lowers her glasses.

[malcolmst]

we arent assuming anything. L.O.K.I actually said 'down' and 'up' in the videos.

In that case I must be asleep.. I have 8 left/right directions (enough for the riddle), and only heard one reference to "UP" in the 8 videos :s

Edit: They are:

Pregame video: L

Clue 1: L

Video 1: R

Video 2: L

Video 3: R

Clue 4: L

Video 4: L

4 Lokis: R

[diggletd]

Ok stupid question. Are there really four of them or is it photo doctor thing

[astro_boy]

Ok stupid question. Are there really four of them or is it photo doctor thing

I know it's hard to believe, but yes, there are actually four Lokis!

P.S. Just ignore the black smudge that appears on the second Loki from the left as the third Loki walks in - it's nothing ;-)

[bele]

Ok stupid question. Are there really four of them or is it photo doctor thing

Camera trick. She's an actress that's been on some soap operas and was recently in Memoirs of a Geisha. (I don't remember her name off the top of my head, I know it's been mentioned in a previous thread.)