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i'm running out tuesday and buying vista.....should i spend the extra $ on ultimate or will i be happy with home premium? i've seen the comparison charts...but would all the "extras" be worth it? and can you turn off shadows copies but still use system restore....does home premium have this feature?

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Ultimate is mostly for users who NEED the features of Business but also want the features of Premium. i.e. Student notebooks or possibly business notebooks, people who don't mind spending the extra for something they may possibly need, or to know that you have the best version :p

Don't buy Ultimate just because it has "Ultimate Extras". Home Premium certainly doesn't have shadow copies... that's reserved for Business, Ultimate and Enterprise.

Check out this guide http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details...ang=en#filelist and see if you really need any of the features in Business or Ultimate.

FYI you'll need Business or Ultimate to initiate Remote Desktop sessions, perform complete backups, to run two seperate processors, use Fax & Scan, Wireless network provisioning, Offline Folder Support, EFS, gpedit, etc.

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there are some advantages of ultimate but u have to compare them to the difference in price. I think ultimate is for the type of people who read Neowin, against Home Premium, which is for the general consumer.

However couldnt you always use Anytime Upgrade if you decided you did need ultimate?

i'm running out tuesday and buying vista.....should i spend the extra $ on ultimate or will i be happy with home premium? i've seen the comparison charts...but would all the "extras" be worth it? and can you turn off shadows copies but still use system restore....does home premium have this feature?

N.O.

Nar ultimate isn't worth the time nor money its just there to make the Customer feel like there top dog really.

If anything Home Premium is the way for Home/Media usage.

Business is more for the Power user with advanced security needs

No really you look at ultimate and think yer im gonna be top dog with this yer number 1 ;).

I am a big supporter of Vista, but I think Ultimate is a waste of money. Either get Business for the security features or get Home Premium for the media features, chances are you don't really need both. Also, the Ultimate Extras are a joke.

Fully agree :yes:

Ultimate is just a big waste of money, and the Extras are just a bad joke. Get Business, it has all the important features. I'd regard it even as a plus that it doesn't come with the Media center crap :cool:

The best thing about Ultimate is that it's called 'Ultimate'. If it was called 'Most fully featured' Edition, everyone would refuse to pay twice as much for very little else, but how could I buy any other edition if there is an 'Ultimate' edition?

If it was exactly the same as the rest, I would still feel like I was missing out by owning a different version.

i'm running out tuesday and buying vista.....should i spend the extra $ on ultimate or will i be happy with home premium? i've seen the comparison charts...but would all the "extras" be worth it? and can you turn off shadows copies but still use system restore....does home premium have this feature?

I would say if you're a home user with the "basic needs," that is, word processing, e-mailing, surfing the Internet, etc. then Home Premium will be plenty. If you want additional eye candy, like the Ultimate Extras, and also want some additional gaming perks, then go for Ultimate.

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