AIM 6.1.16.1

[kaiwai]

Could you PLEASE PROVIDE a DIRECT link to the FULL DOWNLOAD rather than hiding it somewhere - I don't care if it is in some other 'place' put the damn link on the download page along with everything else; and once release; do the same thing for the RTM version.

And people wonder why people hate AOL and hate AOL written software - written and maintained by 'thick as pig ****' morons who can't be bothered making life easier for end users.

[ZonoBurk]

Could you PLEASE PROVIDE a DIRECT link to the FULL DOWNLOAD rather than hiding it somewhere - I don't care if it is in some other 'place' put the damn link on the download page along with everything else; and once release; do the same thing for the RTM version.

And people wonder why people hate AOL and hate AOL written software - written and maintained by 'thick as pig ****' morons who can't be bothered making life easier for end users.

http://beta.aol.com/projects/aim6/AIM_6.1....ull_install.exe :|

[kaiwai]

http://beta.aol.com/projects/aim6/AIM_6.1....ull_install.exe :|

Great; but that is the BETA version, how about a link for the FULL VERSION, RTM version; and once the 6.1 RTM is released, provide a FULL VERSION link.

Again, I go onto www.aim.com and where is that full version link? go onto beta site, where is an easily accessable link to the full version vs. the web download?

[SULAX50]

I agree 100%, SULAX are you listening? :p This is my #1 , huge big major major only suggestion for AIM 6.0, let it skin with the damn OS!

I am listening, and my personal take is do you feel this way with regards to every other application that no longer has "an OS theme"? Do you hate iTunes, Winamp, WMP, Yahoo products, etc etc etc? I understand you want OS theming, we offer an OS them as part of AIM Lite, but frankly I think yours is more of a statement that you dislike our UI then it is the need to have or want the UI to look like a traditional Windows application.

[cswimbound]

well why dont you consider making an option where the users have a choice between the current aim 6 theme and a theme that uses the windows aero type interface to mix in with windows...the current yahoo messenger has an option where you can either stick with indigo or go to classic which takes on the current os theme...i think that would please everyone then and it would eliminate a lot of the theme complaining...just a suggestion though

[Xab]

I am listening, and my personal take is do you feel this way with regards to every other application that no longer has "an OS theme"? Do you hate iTunes, Winamp, WMP, Yahoo products, etc etc etc? I understand you want OS theming, we offer an OS them as part of AIM Lite, but frankly I think yours is more of a statement that you dislike our UI then it is the need to have or want the UI to look like a traditional Windows application.

Yeah, I honestly do get annoyed by every other app that doesn't at least give the *option* of skinning with the OS. Having your own theme is great, just give us the option to turn it off if we wish.

[Randolph]

I agree with the last 2 posts.

[Jeremy1]

Yep, the quotes around aliases and the theme are my two biggest complaints about AIM 6.

[DJLunacy]

Great; but that is the BETA version, how about a link for the FULL VERSION, RTM version; and once the 6.1 RTM is released, provide a FULL VERSION link.

Again, I go onto www.aim.com and where is that full version link? go onto beta site, where is an easily accessable link to the full version vs. the web download?

Settle down, obviously you're going to download it becuase 6.1 IS IN BETA!!!

And AOL isn't the only company that has a download to download the initial application, if you don't like it find the full download or don't download it. Your not being forced to use it.

[SULAX50]

Yeah, I honestly do get annoyed by every other app that doesn't at least give the *option* of skinning with the OS. Having your own theme is great, just give us the option to turn it off if we wish.

OK, I hear you guys. I think what you are saying is MORE than reasonable. Sorry I took the post as an attack solely on AIM, which is why I was condescending in my response. I agree with you guys that we should have multiple themes, both made by our users and also made by us. AIM Lite proves this can be done, but its still not perfect...

[Veedems Veteran]

One thing that will be interesting is to see how AOL and Microsoft react to Yahoo's upcoming WPF messenger. I can definitely see MS doing something similar for WLM, but I just can't see AOL dedicating the resources to something that would require a sizable change the to code of a rather new piece of software.

[Xab]

OK, I hear you guys. I think what you are saying is MORE than reasonable. Sorry I took the post as an attack solely on AIM, which is why I was condescending in my response. I agree with you guys that we should have multiple themes, both made by our users and also made by us. AIM Lite proves this can be done, but its still not perfect...

Don't get me wrong, I was not attacking you at all in either post. I have a great amount of respect for you for coming here and listening to us. If you can implement the option to skin the app natively with the OS that would be awesome =)

[Veedems Veteran]

Don't get me wrong, I was not attacking you at all in either post. I have a great amount of respect for you for coming here and listening to us. If you can implement the option to skin the app natively with the OS that would be awesome =)

One thing to try to understand is the fact that Neowin members tend to reply the same way to each AIM release:

"waiting for ad-hack"

"Let windows skin it!"

I don't know about Sulax, but I sure get tired of it lol.

[ZonoBurk]

One thing to try to understand is the fact that Neowin members tend to reply the same way to each AIM release:

"waiting for ad-hack"

"Let windows skin it!"

I don't know about Sulax, but I sure get tired of it lol.

You're not the only one Chris. I will never understand why members just have to post "waiting for Ad Hack". If you're waiting for it, then wait for it, why are you posting that you are waiting for it?

Speaking of ads, this new build's (not sure if it was in the others) ad is exasperating! When you hover over it (to get to Edit), it "pops" out larger. Eeek! Greg what is going on here??

[Veedems Veteran]

Those "popout" ads have been around for a while. It seems more and more advertisers are opting to use those kind of ads.

[Cyber Dog]

Do you hate iTunes

Yes

Winamp

Not with the v2 theme

WMP

No, but it's never visible on my screen...

Yahoo products

God Yes

Opera

Yes.... Ok, you didn't really say that one, but it seriously belongs on that list.

Personally, I'm still boycotting new AIM versions until aolsoftware.exe dies.

[L3thal Veteran]

well why dont you consider making an option where the users have a choice between the current aim 6 theme and a theme that uses the windows aero type interface to mix in with windows...the current yahoo messenger has an option where you can either stick with indigo or go to classic which takes on the current os theme...i think that would please everyone then and it would eliminate a lot of the theme complaining...just a suggestion though

Pretty good suggestion I may add.

[kaiwai]

Settle down, obviously you're going to download it becuase 6.1 IS IN BETA!!!

And AOL isn't the only company that has a download to download the initial application, if you don't like it find the full download or don't download it. Your not being forced to use it.

Adobe provides a full download on their site, along with the web based download; Sun for their Java offer two types, the smaller web based installer and the full version off line installer; I go over to Microsoft where I can download a Microsoft Office Service Pack I can, like the above, use the web based delta download OR download the full version which is around twice the the size.

Geeze, all those examples and AOL has to 'break the mould', 'rage against the machine', 'rock their boat' with their stupidity in regards to placing a link on their site; what is so hard, on their main site offering two download links; "full download" and "web download" along with a little blurb about the difference - is it *really* that hard? Honestly; you'd think that a company that size there would be some people with enough cranium capacity to crunch that idea through.

[SULAX50]

You're not the only one Chris. I will never understand why members just have to post "waiting for Ad Hack". If you're waiting for it, then wait for it, why are you posting that you are waiting for it?

Speaking of ads, this new build's (not sure if it was in the others) ad is exasperating! When you hover over it (to get to Edit), it "pops" out larger. Eeek! Greg what is going on here??

What's going on is that I need a new Ferrari...JUST KIDDING! Hey it could be worse, if you used AIM back in the day we ran an ad for TravelZoo that used to pop open a new browser window on mouse over. While this is not "new" to the AIM client, I wish we could do adds differently. If you have been reading my blog, I did an at length post regarding the Ad Model in Web 2.0. IMO, it is not working, and I propose a new way to do advertising. You can check it out here.

[benstudley]

One thing that really bothered me about AIM6 was if I copied and pasted text from another one AIM conversation (or anything with html formatting I think) to another, any new text I entered in the window that I copied the text to... would insert a blank line before my text. And if I copied more text from another conversation, it would insert another blank line. Does that make sense to anyone?

It would be like this:

before c/p text my messages showed up in the window like this:

benstudley: blah blah blah

friend: tru dat

after c/p text and sending it to friend any subsequent text would be like this:

benstudley:

blah blah blah

friend: tru dat

c/p text twice:

benstudley:

blah blah blah

friend: tru dat

and so on. It would add one blank line for every time that I had c/p text from another AIM convo. If I closed the conversation window and re-opened it, it would fix it.

Anyone else experience this problem? I'm not installing aim6 again until I know it's fixed :/

[bscabl]

working on adhack, they changed a few things..

namely, silent install seems to have either moved, or taken a vacation.

[DJLunacy]

After using this build on my desktop and 6.0.28.1 on my laptop i can tell you one thing I don't like in the new build...

Linked Screen Names -- The thing that looks like a locked screen name when you click on it doesn't do anything. Not sure if that is designed behavior or what. Also I HATE the fact that I can view all names at once like 6.0.28.1 i can see 3 sn's and all buddies at once without having to click anything. If I want to minimize one SN and use say 2 at once i can't do that.

[L3thal Veteran]

working on adhack, they changed a few things..

namely, silent install seems to have either moved, or taken a vacation.

Sneaky SULAX :shiftyninja:

Anyone else experience this problem? I'm not installing aim6 again until I know it's fixed

Yes, I find that quite annoying when trying to copy and paste a convo and having to close the IM window to get it back to normal.

[Knight85]

2 questions:

1) What in the world is this ad-hack version you guys talk about? (I am assuming it is a removal of the annoying ad on the AIM interface... where can I get it?

2) I am running Vista Business & whenever i hit the X button on the new beta AIM, It just moves the screen a little to the right and doesn't actually close it... Bug or is my computer going looney?

[SULAX50]

Sneaky SULAX :shiftyninja:

Yes, I find that quite annoying when trying to copy and paste a convo and having to close the IM window to get it back to normal.

Yeah, believe me, I did the installer long enough in AIM 1999-2003, and I don't get why our installer behaves the way it does. Like why do we open up the progress bar in the lower right corner? Do people like that?