EZRecovery Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 I don't really know if this is true, but I thought you might want to know. U suck.Hi guys, you prolly thought what a useless news item! But nahh I got something this time for you ! Yay it's all z3h files to valve cafe, including a few CC numbers and some info's Smile Source /EZ VALVe's security was recently shown for what it really is; no exsistant. A hacker known as MaddoxX recently infiltratedVALVe's web servers, exposing, what should be confidential information, to the public. The hacker managed to gain root access to the server, meaning they could view anything they wanted (Including Customer Credit Card details, and even VALVe's current assets). The hacker then ripped the site and created a "Release" (http://rapidshare.com/files/24958280/CafeHomies-PROViSiON.rar.html) in an attempt to grab VALVe's attention (Who are renouned for poor security). Included in the release are all CAS/CAC files (Including certificates), proving once again that their Cafe program is not as secure as they thought. Valve has yet to fix the exploit the hacker used, and has not yet even replied to him. It has also failed to reveal to it's customers that this event even occured, even though they're private details have been exposed. Please help us to inform the public and VALVe customers of this important news. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/554531-valve-hacked-your-info-may-be-at-risk/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
PixilEyes Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 Wow, valve has more money than I thought. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/554531-valve-hacked-your-info-may-be-at-risk/#findComment-588487369 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sin-ergy Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 ? I would think valve would have more money than that :p looks fake anyway. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/554531-valve-hacked-your-info-may-be-at-risk/#findComment-588487386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digitalx Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 does that say 9 billion :| edit: so 9 million my eye playing triks on me lol Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/554531-valve-hacked-your-info-may-be-at-risk/#findComment-588487392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electronic Punk Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 Hoping its fake... http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/show...amp;postcount=5 http://emp.damage-web.net/viewtopic.php?p=62590# Gah, I know my credit card info could well be on there as I have paid for a few things :s Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/554531-valve-hacked-your-info-may-be-at-risk/#findComment-588487399 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacer Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 I think it's fake. It's just a ploy by Valve to be able to have a reasonable excuse to delay Episode 2 again. I can see the press release now... Valve: "Oh, we're sorry HL2 fans. We can't release episode 2 yet because we pulled all of our programmers off the project to help fix this security issue as quickly as possible. We'll continue development of Episode 2 next year, and we will release it some time after that. Thanks." Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/554531-valve-hacked-your-info-may-be-at-risk/#findComment-588487413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electronic Punk Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 Yeah, the speed the mods are moving to remove the posts from the forum I am a little more optimistic its fake. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/554531-valve-hacked-your-info-may-be-at-risk/#findComment-588487414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
neufuse Veteran Posted April 18, 2007 Veteran Share Posted April 18, 2007 Valve has a LOT more money then a few million dollars... their money on hand is in the hundred million range... wonder where they got those numbers from.... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/554531-valve-hacked-your-info-may-be-at-risk/#findComment-588487417 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexcyn Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 If you read the hacker post (if he even really is one), the numbers are from the Valve Cafe program. However he said he had CC information for a lot of regular Steam users ... which, if true, is going to be very bad for Valve and users (like me :cry:) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/554531-valve-hacked-your-info-may-be-at-risk/#findComment-588487423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeroday Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 Luckily for me, I bought my games at the store and activated them online. I should still change my login details to be safe. :| Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/554531-valve-hacked-your-info-may-be-at-risk/#findComment-588487431 Share on other sites More sharing options...
azz0r_wugg Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 Scare mongering. Its all internet cafe financial details, there is no CC information. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/554531-valve-hacked-your-info-may-be-at-risk/#findComment-588487439 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Veteran Posted April 18, 2007 Veteran Share Posted April 18, 2007 :| Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/554531-valve-hacked-your-info-may-be-at-risk/#findComment-588487445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian M. Veteran Posted April 18, 2007 Veteran Share Posted April 18, 2007 I hope it's fake... otherwise a lot of people are in trouble... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/554531-valve-hacked-your-info-may-be-at-risk/#findComment-588487450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dijital Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 Luckily for me, I bought my games at the store and activated them online. I should still change my login details to be safe. :| Same for me, I haven't bought any games purely online yet, I like the physical media, but here is another reason to purchase B&M. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/554531-valve-hacked-your-info-may-be-at-risk/#findComment-588487476 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouldy Punk Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 Uh oh, I paid for the games on my debit card. Good news is though, I only have ?7 in that account at the moment anyways. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/554531-valve-hacked-your-info-may-be-at-risk/#findComment-588487484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiddlie Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 I don't buy this at all. You have to enter your CC details per purchase....they aren't stored. Valve should simply be passing the numbers onto their card processor for authorisation and not storing them. If this is true, valve have seriously messed up - they have no reason or right to store credit card details. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/554531-valve-hacked-your-info-may-be-at-risk/#findComment-588487508 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouldy Punk Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 I don't buy this at all. You have to enter your CC details per purchase....they aren't stored. Valve should simply be passing the numbers onto their card processor for authorisation and not storing them.If this is true, valve have seriously messed up - they have no reason or right to store credit card details. Indeed. Major infringement of the data protection act, which states that you can't hold information longer than it's needed. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/554531-valve-hacked-your-info-may-be-at-risk/#findComment-588487515 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PixilEyes Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 Valve has a LOT more money then a few million dollars... their money on hand is in the hundred million range... wonder where they got those numbers from.... I doubt that. 9 Million is a lot. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/554531-valve-hacked-your-info-may-be-at-risk/#findComment-588487626 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malisk Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 I don't buy this at all. You have to enter your CC details per purchase....they aren't stored. Valve should simply be passing the numbers onto their card processor for authorisation and not storing them.If this is true, valve have seriously messed up - they have no reason or right to store credit card details. Yes, this story sounds pretty stupid to me.. :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/554531-valve-hacked-your-info-may-be-at-risk/#findComment-588487634 Share on other sites More sharing options...
episode Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 I doubt that. 9 Million is a lot. For a business the size of Valve, no, it isn't. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/554531-valve-hacked-your-info-may-be-at-risk/#findComment-588487635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OPaul Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 Valve has a LOT more money then a few million dollars... their money on hand is in the hundred million range... wonder where they got those numbers from.... Source? Or are you guessing? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/554531-valve-hacked-your-info-may-be-at-risk/#findComment-588487760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smigit Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 I don't buy this at all. You have to enter your CC details per purchase....they aren't stored. Valve should simply be passing the numbers onto their card processor for authorisation and not storing them.If this is true, valve have seriously messed up - they have no reason or right to store credit card details. yeap I basically agree Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/554531-valve-hacked-your-info-may-be-at-risk/#findComment-588487859 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayepecks Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 Source? Or are you guessing? Given that Half-Life 2 cost more than that to make, and Valve fully self-financed it, I'm going to say it doesn't matter if it's a guess -- it's right. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/554531-valve-hacked-your-info-may-be-at-risk/#findComment-588487874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OPaul Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 Given that Half-Life 2 cost more than that to make, and Valve fully self-financed it, I'm going to say it doesn't matter if it's a guess -- it's right. According to Wikipedia, Valve's revenue for 2005 was 7 million. So if you say HL2 cost more then that to make, they wouldn't be making any money. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/554531-valve-hacked-your-info-may-be-at-risk/#findComment-588487934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayepecks Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 According to Wikipedia, Valve's revenue for 2005 was 7 million. So if you say HL2 cost more then that to make, they wouldn't be making any money. Do you understand how much money it takes to make a game now? Maybe you should read this article: http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2...ctentexpo_x.htm "As we moved forward, if Half-Life was two and a half years and less than $10m, and Half-Life 2 was over five years and $40m, then Half-Life 3 is eight years and $65m? Hell no, it seemed like the spiral was out of control and change was needed." But isn't there a danger that by pursuing episodic gaming, Valve will get left behind in the technology arms race? Johnson emphatically disagrees, arguing that technology development is speedier and more efficient when you're working on more frequent, incremental releases. http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=23438 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/554531-valve-hacked-your-info-may-be-at-risk/#findComment-588487965 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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