Valve Hacked. Your Info may be at risk.

[obsolete_power]

I hope this is fake or otherwise valve is in trouble :o

[benac]

I agree, 9 millions is a little low (It is the Cafe program, I believe). Especially considering all the new games they have added to the steam library. They get a good percentage of those sales too. Games these days can take up to 50 million to make.

[Circaflex]

According to Wikipedia, Valve's revenue for 2005 was 7 million. So if you say HL2 cost more then that to make, they wouldn't be making any money.

also wiki isnt the best place for solid info all the time

[Express]

Wow, valve has more money than I thought.

Yeah, didn't know they had so much money.

[mircleman]

The problem I have with valve is 2 fold. first off if you buy a game like SIN for example, you buy the game own it and you cannot play that game without valve/steam I have a problem with that. its almost like sonys rootkit. its a third part program and the game cant be played unless you install steam and let steam validate the game. then top it off if you forget your account info etc you cant make a new one and use that game anymore even though you own it why ? because it will not let the same cd key be used for 2 separate accounts. they will do a reset if you have a receipt or pay them to reset it. thats bad business. second the reason they have all the credit card info is because they use it to identify you, what games you bought, and registered I think the entire system sucks. however they do make wonderful games I.E. half life

[OPaul]

The problem I have with valve is 2 fold. first off if you buy a game like SIN for example, you buy the game own it and you cannot play that game without valve/steam I have a problem with that. its almost like sonys rootkit. its a third part program and the game cant be played unless you install steam and let steam validate the game. then top it off if you forget your account info etc you cant make a new one and use that game anymore even though you own it why ? because it will not let the same cd key be used for 2 separate accounts. they will do a reset if you have a receipt or pay them to reset it. thats bad business. second the reason they have all the credit card info is because they use it to identify you, what games you bought, and registered I think the entire system sucks. however they do make wonderful games I.E. half life

Well your not really "buying" the game, your buying the license to play the game.

[Chanser]

If true, I'm safe I used a virtual Visa card. :p

[entropyx]

Steam is a content delivery system. That's it. Saying it's restrictive is stupid.

[Mouldy Punk]

Steam is a content delivery system. That's it. Saying it's restrictive is stupid.

Can you play Counter Strike Source retail without steam? No. Therefore, Steam is restrictive.

[mircleman]

exactly my point I have news for people most games bundled with steam will not run without steam period im talking about games that I bought from a retail store. without steam they will not run. therefore restrictive.

[LightIdea]

I had a look at the files, and there are no valid CC numbers.

[grik]

I laugh, cause VALVE SUCKS ALOT

They ban one of my keys, saying i was cheating, i certainly wasent and refuse to give the key clear status, i had to buy another key. The funny thing is that i see many players cheating and they know a way anti ban or something, and im paying and i get banned!! If the game was 100% secure anti hacks i woudnt mind many restrictions but ITS NOT!!!

I hope he got CC info of VALVE and start to buy lots and lots of things, i would be happy, my money well spent eheh!!!

Now i will want to play TF2, im sure its gonna be release on VALVE 100% LYING CRAPPY SECURE SERVERS!!

[The_Decryptor Veteran]

The problem I have with valve is 2 fold. first off if you buy a game like SIN for example, you buy the game own it and you cannot play that game without valve/steam I have a problem with that. its almost like sonys rootkit. its a third part program and the game cant be played unless you install steam and let steam validate the game. then top it off if you forget your account info etc you cant make a new one and use that game anymore even though you own it why ? because it will not let the same cd key be used for 2 separate accounts. they will do a reset if you have a receipt or pay them to reset it. thats bad business. second the reason they have all the credit card info is because they use it to identify you, what games you bought, and registered I think the entire system sucks. however they do make wonderful games I.E. half life

I can't register multiple copies of The Sims with the same key either.

And they use your account details to track what games you own, not your credit card number (really, they shouldn't even be getting that).

[Malisk]

According to Wikipedia, Valve's revenue for 2005 was 7 million. So if you say HL2 cost more then that to make, they wouldn't be making any money.

Not 7.. :| 70 million.. The revenue in 2005 was $70 million.

also wiki isnt the best place for solid info all the time

No, but this time that info is from Forbes, and only listed as unreferenced right now because the info page there is no longer available.

[OPaul]

Not 7.. :| 70 million.. The revenue in 2005 was $70 million.

Damn, not sure how I missed that.

[Miuku.]

I can't register multiple copies of The Sims with the same key either.

You can, however, take your Sims and go play it on another machine, for example one without a network connection at all.

With games tied to steam you're forced to either crack the authentication off or .. well, simply not play at all.

[azz0r_wugg]

I laugh, cause VALVE SUCKS ALOT

They ban one of my keys, saying i was cheating, i certainly wasent and refuse to give the key clear status, i had to buy another key. The funny thing is that i see many players cheating and they know a way anti ban or something, and im paying and i get banned!! If the game was 100% secure anti hacks i woudnt mind many restrictions but ITS NOT!!!

I hope he got CC info of VALVE and start to buy lots and lots of things, i would be happy, my money well spent eheh!!!

Now i will want to play TF2, im sure its gonna be release on VALVE 100% LYING CRAPPY SECURE SERVERS!!

How old are you? Should you even be using the internet? You cheated, you got caught. Valve doesn't ban cheaters keys, it stops them joining a secure server.

Less BS, more stfu.

[The_Decryptor Veteran]

You can, however, take your Sims and go play it on another machine, for example one without a network connection at all.

With games tied to steam you're forced to either crack the authentication off or .. well, simply not play at all.

Or sign out of the other computer.

It links it to the account, not the computer, they also limit the account to only being signed it at one location, so you can sign out at home, go to a lan cafe and play all of your steam brought games.

[Si Veteran]

Or sign out of the other computer.

It links it to the account, not the computer, they also limit the account to only being signed it at one location, so you can sign out at home, go to a lan cafe and play all of your steam brought games.

Yep because you (who the game is licensed to) can only be in one place at any given time :yes:

[grik]

How old are you? Should you even be using the internet? You cheated, you got caught. Valve doesn't ban cheaters keys, it stops them joining a secure server.

Less BS, more stfu.

You obviously never played the game or else you wouldnt say that. My key got banned i didn?t do nothing, just got home from vacation and there it was. One funny thing if you played you could see many people cheating (maybe with other generated keys MINE example). WHen you pay for one thing, they say you cant play cause you were cheating (but you were not), but OK lets assume its a hard mistake to solve (By IP would be easy, i bet it was another country usgin my account) if i didnt see people cheating on servers i would be OK, but i dont see that.

Thousands protested, that are many signatures colleting websites protesting with VALVE, google it if you dont know, just dont try to argument with a "you are a kid" GOOGLE IT;))

Take care

[The_Decryptor Veteran]

Yep because you (who the game is licensed to) can only be in one place at any given time :yes:

Yeah.

I don't understand why people have so many issues with steam, i actually like it.

Although Valve not thoroughly testing their updates can get annoying.

And if you get VAC banned, it just means you can't play on VAC servers, VAC free servers are fine.

[grik]

Yeah.

I don't understand why people have so many issues with steam, i actually like it.

Although Valve not thoroughly testing their updates can get annoying.

And if you get VAC banned, it just means you can't play on VAC servers, VAC free servers are fine.

I like the concept too, but not their policy

[KHaKi-]

* Steam was not compromised, only a regular Valve file server. In fact according to Valve it was a ?third-party site? ? though what sort of third party stores the sum in their corporate account I don?t know.

* Consumer credit card information has not been stolen. The numbers in danger are all held by cybercafe owners, who have recurring subscriptions to their Steam games and have probably all long been informed. Consumer data are only stored in enough detail to fight mass fraud, not make purchases, and weren?t compromised anyway. Paying at a cafe does not put your card at risk.

http://steamreview.org/posts/cafecardsstolen/

Update: Valve?s statement, from 1UP:

There has been no security breach of Steam. The alleged hacker gained access to a third-party site that Valve uses to manage the commercial partners in its Cyber Caf? program. This Cyber Caf? billing system is not connected to Steam. We are working with law enforcement agencies on this matter, and encourage anyone with more information to e-mail us at [email protected].

[ViperAFK]

Yeah.

I don't understand why people have so many issues with steam, i actually like it.

Although Valve not thoroughly testing their updates can get annoying.

And if you get VAC banned, it just means you can't play on VAC servers, VAC free servers are fine.

People hack on VAC servers anyway :cry:

[kribby]

lol...looks like his site got deleted