[Game] Neowin Mafia 2

[aubaine]

So is this game officially dead or what?

[addc182]

i think we're waiting for the final (finger crossed) update due in half an hour

and then the game is over...

[mikebiacsi]

I thought the and of the cycle was at 4pm...

[addc182]

nah its meant to be 5pm UK time....

still late though

[Lt-DavidW]

Please leave your feedback and comments on the Neowin Mafia 3 rules.

Thanks.

[mikebiacsi]

Not bad david, 3 teams seem interesting, although im not sure if we can get 26 people to participate fully. I would certanly like to give your rules a try though.

[sundayx Veteran]

Sorry I thought there weren't enough appeal or interest in the quick game of Mafia so I just let it go.

The first game ended with 10 members left and the Mafia have lost all their members.

Although I don't think the Gunner/Zombie would work out right, I think you should try to run the rules and see how effective it is. Meanwhile I will try to conceptualize, and with the coding of lylesback2, produce a PHP voting system for future Mafia games.

[aubaine]

Yeah, I'm not convinced of the necessity of the gunner and/or zombie, I really like the rest of the rules. I think it should be a lot of fun.

However, I think we've noticed that the "fun-factor" is much more about the amount of participation among those playing than the rules of the game.

One thing I might like to see implemented is Mafia "recruitment". If a Mafia member becomes "inactive" or otherwise quits the game, the Mafia can choose to attempt to recruit a townsperson to take their place. The townsperson could then choose to become Mafia or out the player who contacted them as Mafia. The townspeople could then choose to believe the outing or not.

Anyway, I'll try to play again - this is so much fun!

[addc182]

One thing I might like to see implemented is Mafia "recruitment". If a Mafia member becomes "inactive" or otherwise quits the game, the Mafia can choose to attempt to recruit a townsperson to take their place. The townsperson could then choose to become Mafia or out the player who contacted them as Mafia. The townspeople could then choose to believe the outing or not.

+1 on this

and i'll definately be up for the next game

hanvt had a chance to read those rules yet because ive got some pretty harsh exams tomorrow

but ill get back on it tomorrow evening

[SacrificialSoldier]

If the next game goes as I am hearing it will then I TOTALLY want to be in!!! Sounds totally sweet!

[Andrew Lyle Global Moderator]

If the next game goes as I am hearing it will then I TOTALLY want to be in!!! Sounds totally sweet!

I can't say very much.. since i don't know the details.. but Season 2 didn't finish, and may re-start a quick season 2 over again.

Season 3 is in the works..

[Shof]

i hope season3 is better

[sundayx Veteran]

As some of you have requested, here is the spreadsheet used in this game.

http://www.jtothey.com/public/neowin%20mafia%202.html

Red members are Mafia,

Purple is the Doctor,

Blue is the Sheriff,

Green is the Alliance.

Days progress from right to left, the day listed at the top, first being the Night Cycle then the Day cycle when everyone votes. Death sorted from bottom up, vote percentages listed on the bottom. Hope you guys can read it.

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Season 3 is perhaps done by Lt-DavidW for the moment, and a voting system is in the works by me and lylesback2? Maybe this will be used for the Season after 3 depending on progress.

[aubaine]

Nice to know the Sheriff suspected me at the beginning! Thanks for the spreadsheet sundayx!

[mikebiacsi]

Wow, we so totally owned the mafia in this game! :D :p

[aubaine]

Wow, we so totally owned the mafia in this game! :D :p

Yeah, and I think we can all thank reiverjohn for most of that. That really was an amazing show of detective work and team-building. WTG!

[TrickFinlay2]

i cant wait for the next game, especially with the idea of recruitment :shifty:

[4CxbqFxVnstmA Veteran]

Yeah, and I think we can all thank reiverjohn for most of that. That really was an amazing show of detective work and team-building. WTG!

lol thanks ! but (a) i was wrong about shof. i didnt think he was mafia and was surprised to see him turn out to be. and (b) i very nearly asked people to vote against someone who was innocent--the sherriff in fact ! luckily i came round to my senses in time.

but the point here really is to get the pms going, get in touch with people and test them out, dont be silent, get involved in the game. its a treacherous sort of thing, this game, but it can be quite fun. :D

[Lt-DavidW]

If a townsperson were to accept recruitment, it is only fair that they officially change team. This means that the moderator would confirm the recruitment and change of team with the recruit and all Mafia members (not townspeople obviously). This means that if the recruit is simply trying to infiltrate the Mafia to pass on info. to the townspeople, then the recruit is actually cheating himself as he is officially part of the Mafia team.

Otherwise it would be too easy for the recruit to pick and choose his side.

And what if the Mafia unknowingly recruit a Sheriff or Doctor? What then?

[aubaine]

If a townsperson were to accept recruitment, it is only fair that they officially change team. This means that the moderator would confirm the recruitment and change of team with the recruit and all Mafia members (not townspeople obviously). This means that if the recruit is simply trying to infiltrate the Mafia to pass on info. to the townspeople, then the recruit is actually cheating himself as he is officially part of the Mafia team.

Otherwise it would be too easy for the recruit to pick and choose his side.

And what if the Mafia unknowingly recruit a Sheriff or Doctor? What then?

I think that makes sense. I think that just having the idea of recruitment out there adds another level of deception, whether it actually happens or not.

If the Mafia recruit a Sheriff or Doctor then they have either gotten very lucky or have worked very hard and done their homework! It wouldn't be too different from them offing the doctor or sheriff, and makes the importance of player participation that much more integral.

[Lt-DavidW]

I think that makes sense. I think that just having the idea of recruitment out there adds another level of deception, whether it actually happens or not.

If the Mafia recruit a Sheriff or Doctor then they have either gotten very lucky or have worked very hard and done their homework! It wouldn't be too different from them offing the doctor or sheriff, and makes the importance of player participation that much more integral.

Actually, I was thinking more about the consequences of a doctor breaking the Hippocratic Oath to murder civilians, and a Sheriff turning to the dark side. Do we really want to witness this?

[4CxbqFxVnstmA Veteran]

Actually, I was thinking more about the consequences of a doctor breaking the Hippocratic Oath to murder civilians, and a Sheriff turning to the dark side. Do we really want to witness this?

lt dave, i think we have already witnessed a lot of treachery. the game seems made for it. why not let it be 'anything goes' as it already seems to be ?

[Andrew Lyle Global Moderator]

i was the doctor.. and i tried to save people, but unforchanetly i was unsuccessful in doing so!

[4CxbqFxVnstmA Veteran]

i was the doctor.. and i tried to save people, but unforchanetly i was unsuccessful in doing so!

yeah and i realise that now ! so thanks for having a go at saving me ! much appreciated !

[APH-Alex]

Mafia = pwn't >.<