Nashy Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 I can't believe you people are getting ****y over someone trying to stop piracy. Who the hell cares what the MPAA does? It's still their products and people are still breaking the law by downloading instead of properly purchasing them. Model Citizen? People will continue to download, but if anyone agree's with the tactics of the MPAA and RIAA then seriously.... [insert warnable comments here] Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/566138-torrentspy-ordered-by-judge-to-become-mpaa-spy/page/2/#findComment-588613925 Share on other sites More sharing options...
revvo Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 look at his username also.good for the judge, good for real BT pirates. no one really uses torrentspy anyways, except for the newbies. No one really uses torrentspy? You're crazy :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/566138-torrentspy-ordered-by-judge-to-become-mpaa-spy/page/2/#findComment-588613928 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sniper101 Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 Withdrawl from the US simple :p like when the FBI Tried to stop The Pirate bay but couldn't because it wasnt based in the US hahahahaahahaha stupid Government agents :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/566138-torrentspy-ordered-by-judge-to-become-mpaa-spy/page/2/#findComment-588613929 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malbojia Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 TorrentSpy WHOIS Server Data Server Type: Microsoft-IIS/6.0 IP Address: 82.192.86.141 IP Location - Noord-holland - Amsterdam - Leaseweb Response Code: 200 Blacklist Status: Clear SSL Cert: No valid SSL on this Host Domain Status: Registered And Active Website Registry Data ICANN Registrar: KEY-SYSTEMS GMBH Created: 2003-09-24 Expires: 2008-09-24 Registrar Status: ok Name Server: NS1.LOSTFROG.COM Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/566138-torrentspy-ordered-by-judge-to-become-mpaa-spy/page/2/#findComment-588613930 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEVER85 Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 Why should I even care about the MPAA if I don't live in America? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/566138-torrentspy-ordered-by-judge-to-become-mpaa-spy/page/2/#findComment-588613973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillz Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 I haven't used TorrentSpy in months. I'll just have to stay away from them for good now. Although I'd imagine that if you used it for getting something legally distributed, like a Linux distro, you've got nothing to worry about. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/566138-torrentspy-ordered-by-judge-to-become-mpaa-spy/page/2/#findComment-588613975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanManIt Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 Good thing I read this. I'll make sure to not download from torrentspy ever again. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/566138-torrentspy-ordered-by-judge-to-become-mpaa-spy/page/2/#findComment-588613976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin- Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 Understandably, this is a worrying move by the court - even more so when one considers these logs must then be turned over to the MPAA. Haha, worrying, eh? I guess the only ones worrying are those doing the illegal activities they know they're not supposed to be doing anyway. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/566138-torrentspy-ordered-by-judge-to-become-mpaa-spy/page/2/#findComment-588613985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonzibuddy Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 Why should I even care about the MPAA if I don't live in America? Cause their influence will spread, it's only a matter of time Haha, worrying, eh? I guess the only ones worrying are those doing the illegal activities they know they're not supposed to be doing anyway. You, sir, deserve a round of applause for being the only one with common sense in this thread. :yes: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/566138-torrentspy-ordered-by-judge-to-become-mpaa-spy/page/2/#findComment-588614031 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEVER85 Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 I still fail to see the problem. The MPAA only cares about their movies. Torrentspy still has a plethora of warez, games, music, tv shows, etc. I'm not saying "HEY GO DL THOSE FILES INSTEAD", but I still think people are making a mountain out of a molehill over this. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/566138-torrentspy-ordered-by-judge-to-become-mpaa-spy/page/2/#findComment-588614037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Veteran Posted June 9, 2007 Veteran Share Posted June 9, 2007 I still fail to see the problem. The MPAA only cares about their movies. Torrentspy still has a plethora of warez, games, music, tv shows, etc. I'm not saying "HEY GO DL THOSE FILES INSTEAD", but I still think people are making a mountain out of a molehill over this. dude is your sig the new single of nightwish? Anette... ste Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/566138-torrentspy-ordered-by-judge-to-become-mpaa-spy/page/2/#findComment-588614057 Share on other sites More sharing options...
planetik Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 I never liked how torrentspy searched anyway. Still sucks for those people that use it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/566138-torrentspy-ordered-by-judge-to-become-mpaa-spy/page/2/#findComment-588614071 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtreme2damax Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 Haha, worrying, eh? I guess the only ones worrying are those doing the illegal activities they know they're not supposed to be doing anyway. I'll quote something I said from the last page: Seriously the MPAA, RIAA can go to hell. Anyone of you who think otherwise can fizzle out with the MPAA and RIAA and meet your doom. Theres nothing I hate more than a bunch of hypocrites who act as if they've never pirated anything in their entire lives or never will just to cover their asses satisfying their e-penis and ego. Everyone that uses a Computer has at least downloaded something that is copyrighted at least once in their lives even if on purpose or unknowingly, unless your an old fart who doesn't care about this and only is interested in seeing the latest newscast, and even then I seriously have my doubts. Don't some of you just hate hypocrisy, the ability to speak against someone or something although you are guilty of the same thing or could be :rofl: Seriously like I said, everyone that has used a computer has at least pirated something once in their lives or will at one point. Stop pretending to be Mr/Ms innocent, to play on this and belittle everyone, in order satisfy your e-pen0r, ego and clear your conscience. As long as no actual data and just torrents are stored on the servers I see no validity in this ruling. A torrent once downloaded can contain any data, even data was not described in the torrent name/description. You could think you're downloading hollywoods latest release or a hit song, when in actuality you could be downloading malware or something completely different. There is no way of actually knowing until downloading the file and uncompressing (If Compressed) and actually playing it to find out. I doubt that they are working 24 hour shifts to download every single file that references a hollywood movie or song, via torrent or other method, uncompressing it to see if it actually contains anything illegal. If all they have to go on is torrents and the names of the torrents and not actual data itself, this should of been thrown right out. But unfortunately our country and judicial system is run by a bunch of old farts and idiots who don't know first hand about technology, P2P, and these things. Which is also why people are able to file bogus patents, and file frivolous lawsuits and actually win them even if they are at fault :rolleyes: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/566138-torrentspy-ordered-by-judge-to-become-mpaa-spy/page/2/#findComment-588614073 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 I still fail to see the problem. The MPAA only cares about their movies. Torrentspy still has a plethora of warez, games, music, tv shows, etc. Actually I believe the MPAA also covers TV shows. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/566138-torrentspy-ordered-by-judge-to-become-mpaa-spy/page/2/#findComment-588614092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitchenutensils Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 do american citizens not have something about privacy written into the constitution? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/566138-torrentspy-ordered-by-judge-to-become-mpaa-spy/page/2/#findComment-588614101 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEVER85 Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 dude is your sig the new single of nightwish? Anette...ste Yes, it is of Anette. :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/566138-torrentspy-ordered-by-judge-to-become-mpaa-spy/page/2/#findComment-588614111 Share on other sites More sharing options...
duntkno Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 torrentspy is one of the best public torrent sites out there, i wonder if torrentspy would actually go through with the judges orders or close down the site instead... torrentspy becoming a public spy for the government, who woulda thought.... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/566138-torrentspy-ordered-by-judge-to-become-mpaa-spy/page/2/#findComment-588614117 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berserk87 Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 who else here wants bonzibuddy to stfu? i use torrents to download missed shows like the couple lost episodes i missed, and the heroes episode i missed, its not stealing cuase i cant buy it anyway. or outdated games that i cant download/buy anymore. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/566138-torrentspy-ordered-by-judge-to-become-mpaa-spy/page/2/#findComment-588614120 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetblack Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 what i despise more is people that try to justify themselves and refuse to admit that what they are doing is wrong. It doesnt make a bit of difference if YOU think its ok to share copyrighted material, it still is a crime as defined by current law. i do my own share of downloading, but that doenst mean i think its my right, even if its by bt or p2p or whatever. i think the mpaa and all entities like it has every right to try and protect their property, even though i dont condone its tactics or the judges that allow it to procede w/o due justice. if you made a living off of your creative works and they were stolen/distributed w/o your consent or w/o compensation, you'd be ****ed and would do whatever you could to stop it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/566138-torrentspy-ordered-by-judge-to-become-mpaa-spy/page/2/#findComment-588614131 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR.T Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 hmmm someone was bribed :shiftyninja: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/566138-torrentspy-ordered-by-judge-to-become-mpaa-spy/page/2/#findComment-588614140 Share on other sites More sharing options...
webeagle12 Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 Haha, so owned.This should teach you folks not to pirate again... go back to your room and forget your neowin password :pinch: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/566138-torrentspy-ordered-by-judge-to-become-mpaa-spy/page/2/#findComment-588614171 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miuku. Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 if you made a living off of your creative works and they were stolen/distributed w/o your consent or w/o compensation, you'd be ****ed and would do whatever you could to stop it. Although I switched jobs many years ago but the software and products that I worked on previous were pirated and copied. Yes, I found it a little unsettling but we had a very high profit rate and it didn't bother that much. Heck, we could've had 50% of our "installations" pirated and we still would've made a handsome profit. The problem?here is greed - these companies aren't satisfied with?the massive profits they are currently raking in - they're only interested in more, more and more money. There is no end to how much money they want?-?corporate?capitalism?with no social responsibility is?a?dead?end.? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/566138-torrentspy-ordered-by-judge-to-become-mpaa-spy/page/2/#findComment-588614173 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtreme2damax Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 what i despise more is people that try to justify themselves and refuse to admit that what they are doing is wrong. It doesnt make a bit of difference if YOU think its ok to share copyrighted material, it still is a crime as defined by current law. i do my own share of downloading, but that doenst mean i think its my right, even if its by bt or p2p or whatever. i think the mpaa and all entities like it has every right to try and protect their property, even though i dont condone its tactics or the judges that allow it to procede w/o due justice. if you made a living off of your creative works and they were stolen/distributed w/o your consent or w/o compensation, you'd be ****ed and would do whatever you could to stop it. And Yet once, again you force me to quote myself. You, and everyone else like you are living proof of hypocrisy at work: Seriously the MPAA, RIAA can go to hell. Anyone of you who think otherwise can fizzle out with the MPAA and RIAA and meet your doom. Theres nothing I hate more than a bunch of hypocrites who act as if they've never pirated anything in their entire lives or never will just to cover their asses satisfying their e-penis and ego. Everyone that uses a Computer has at least downloaded something that is copyrighted at least once in their lives even if on purpose or unknowingly, unless your an old fart who doesn't care about this and only is interested in seeing the latest newscast, and even then I seriously have my doubts. and this: Don't some of you just hate hypocrisy, the ability to speak against someone or something although you are guilty of the same thing or could be :rofl: Seriously like I said, everyone that has used a computer has at least pirated something once in their lives or will at one point. Stop pretending to be Mr/Ms innocent, to play on this and belittle everyone, in order satisfy your e-pen0r, ego and clear your conscience. As long as no actual data and just torrents are stored on the servers I see no validity in this ruling. A torrent once downloaded can contain any data, even data was not described in the torrent name/description. You could think you're downloading hollywoods latest release or a hit song, when in actuality you could be downloading malware or something completely different. There is no way of actually knowing until downloading the file and uncompressing (If Compressed) and actually playing it to find out. I doubt that they are working 24 hour shifts to download every single file that references a hollywood movie or song, via torrent or other method, uncompressing it to see if it actually contains anything illegal. If all they have to go on is torrents and the names of the torrents and not actual data itself, this should of been thrown right out. But unfortunately our country and judicial system is run by a bunch of old farts and idiots who don't know first hand about technology, P2P, and these things. Which is also why people are able to file bogus patents, and file frivolous lawsuits and actually win them even if they are at fault :rolleyes: You really have me on the floor laughing, do you not read the previous posts and just like spouting off bull****?. Like you've never done no wrong in your life. Oh I forgot you are Mr. Perfect Right and not capable of ever pirating anything or doing anything. You are a living Role model, and a model citizen for children, woman, and grandparents all the like. Someday you might become president with an attitude like that. It seems you already have the Lying dirty Hypocrite qualities of a typical leader, I'm sure the people would elect you. I must bow down to your awsomeness as a model and Perfect Citizen. Please spear me your might and not smite me oh powerful perfect cititizen :laugh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/566138-torrentspy-ordered-by-judge-to-become-mpaa-spy/page/2/#findComment-588614205 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZurkSez Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 I can't believe you people are getting ****y over someone trying to stop piracy. Who the hell cares what the MPAA does? It's still their products and people are still breaking the law by downloading instead of properly purchasing them. We would actually buy them, but if you look deeper, the companies etc are doing the same thing to us in a different way.. by lying to us and getting us to buy their products, by for instance putting ****ty protection crap on it that ruins our computers, that make half-assed games that are full of bugs and then refusing to fix it. This is just the beginning, there are lots more. By the sides, everything should be free, everyone should help each other. Money is dumb. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/566138-torrentspy-ordered-by-judge-to-become-mpaa-spy/page/2/#findComment-588614213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian M. Veteran Posted June 9, 2007 Veteran Share Posted June 9, 2007 Thing is, TorrentSpy are never going to actually give details to the MPAA - they'll just move their servers or something to avoid it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/566138-torrentspy-ordered-by-judge-to-become-mpaa-spy/page/2/#findComment-588614368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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