Does Safari's cleartype text give you a headache?

[guarana0324]

Just wondering... it does on my copy of Vista.

[[bear]]

well considering I've used macs all my life I've found the text rendering great. (That or ive gotten used to it) lol.. The windows version I didn't mind.

[AltecXP]

Safari for windows doesnt use Cleartype it uses Apples vrsion of font smoothing.

[giga Veteran]

I prefer Mac OS's font smoothing to ClearType personally though it does look out of place in Windows since the system has two different font smoothings now.

[guarana0324]

Does it look the same on Macs?

[giga Veteran]

[jimbo11883]

It looks like crap to me... The fonts sometimes are way too blurry.

[guarana0324]

It looks better on the Mac to me. I wonder if it's Apple making crappy Windows software again.

[tao muon]

If Apple is so worried about rendering the font the way the font was supposed to be rendered, perhaps they should find a way to embed the font into the page so that rendered fonts appear the way they are supposed to.

Windows allows graphics on the display canvas... maybe Apple should draw the canvas the way it should be?

Nah, that would be too easy- drawing things the way you want them to look.

Way to go Apple!

That page looks horrible to me. Wide band on the left of the browser window, capped off- top and bottom, by grey bars.

[Pharos]

Wow that's what I'd call a minimalist dock. lol

[giga Veteran]

If Apple is so worried about rendering the font the way the font was supposed to be rendered, perhaps they should find a way to embed the font into the page so that rendered fonts appear the way they are supposed to.

Windows allows graphics on the display canvas... maybe Apple should draw the canvas the way it should be?

Nah, that would be too easy- drawing things the way you want them to look.

Way to go Apple!

That page looks horrible to me. Wide band on the left of the browser window, capped off- top and bottom, by grey bars.

Say what? The Neowin page?

Wow that's what I'd call a minimalist dock. lol

Quicksilver is my friend ;)

[sn00pie]

Yes, I hate that ClearType junk, it may look better if your using an LCD, but me sitting on a cool CRT, I can't stand it. I had to switch back to Firefox. :D

[planetik]

Personally, the only reason I uninstalled Safari for Windows after a couple of minutes is because the font rendering looked like what it does. It all comes down to personal preference I guess.

[Xero]

I'd say it looks better on mac than windows but at least they are making an effort I guess.... I think it looks better personally.

[mattrobs]

Safari 3 on Mac left / Safari 3 on Windows right

They do look the same. Is Safari 2 on Mac any different in anti-aliasing?

[giga Veteran]

They do look the same. Is Safari 2 on Mac any different in anti-aliasing?

No.

[QuarterSwede]

Wow, I was thinking the font smoothing had to be different on Safari in Windows because everyone was complaining about it. But since it's the same I think everyone of you Vista users who think Vista's font smoothing is better are insane!

Windows font smoothing looks blurry compared to OS X's (Safari's) to me at least. It always has.

Anyone have an example of Safari (Win) and IE to compare? Just curious.

[Doli]

I like it, but im on a 17 inch CRT monitor at 1024 x 768. Tested it 1280 x 960 and still looks good.

[mattrobs]

Windows' IE 7 / Safari 3

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Hmm.

[sundayx Veteran]

Windows' IE 7 / Safari 3

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Hmm bold.

[giga Veteran]

http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2007/06/12.html

It's a matter of subjective taste--this article seems heavily biased but he tells the truth that the font rendering isn't worse, it's just different from what Windows users are used to.

Oh and by the way, what settings are you [windows] guys using for font smoothing in Safari?

[QuarterSwede]

Thanks for providing the comparison mattrobs.

Interesting, I had no idea OS X's looked bolder compared to Vista's. I still think it's easier to read ... not as thin.

[tao muon]

...

Say what? The Neowin page?

...

The browser window.

If I had ANY window open and any one of the borders was so dark it blended in to the desktop...

Am I the only one that saw the blackish border on the left of the browser window?

I'd think AMATUER.

Nice solid borders on the top, right and bottom of the window... but on the left?

Next....

[mattrobs]

Oh and by the way, what settings are you [windows] guys using for font smoothing in Safari?

Oh, there are settings for Font Smoothing. What do you know. Well the screenshots were set at the default, Medium, but I've just switch to Light.

IE 7 / Safari at Light / Safari at Medium

Light's much better.

[tao muon]

Oh, there are settings for Font Smoothing. What do you know. Well the screenshots were set at the default, Medium, but I've just switch to Light.

IE 7 / Safari at Light / Safari at Medium

Light's much better.

I prefer the one on the left. It may be a bit lighter in font strength, but looks better- less distorted.