Does Safari's cleartype text give you a headache?


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Sigh. Go to an Apple store and use a Mac. Different design philosophies between Microsoft and Apple that's all. I prefer Apple's borderless ways because I find borders pointless but that is simply my opinion.

Oh, and without borders, there is no definition, no separation.

What is the square root of pi?

~= 1.77245.... Since Pi is irrational we can never get an exact answer and we have to settle for an approximation.

Yes, I suppose so.

My complaint is that the desktop had the gold 'stripes' that disappear on the left side of the Safari window and leave a vertical band 'blackish' between the top and bottom of the window. It looked like the left side of the window was just /gone/ and had nothing left. The content of the window was indented and... nothing filled the empty space.

That is exactly my point.

At least IE7 draws a border around its window so that you can see where the desktop ends and the window begins.

And that is where the conversation started.

So...

What next?

Can I bother you of a screenshot of that site on a Mac?

http://taomuon.youdontcare.com

I'm not seeing any blackish between the top and bottom of the window? Maybe my wallpaper is just confusing you. :s The desktop and window is clearly separated by a shadow but if you prefer thick borders like IE then more power to you.

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I'm not seeing any blackish between the top and bottom of the window? Maybe my wallpaper is just confusing you. :s The desktop and window is clearly separated by a shadow but if you prefer thick borders like IE then more power to you.

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This is a copy of the screenshot you posted. Notice the black'ish' band on the left of the Safari window, just below the navigation arrows. It's obvious the band is part of the window, because the goldish barber pole stripes stop where you would expect them to if you extended the menu bar down to the bottom bar.

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This is a copy of the screenshot you posted. Notice the black'ish' band on the left of the Safari window, just below the navigation arrows. It's obvious the band is part of the window, because the goldish barber pole stripes stop where you would expect them to if you extended the menu bar down to the bottom bar.

What? Seriously, tell us what you're smoking, because nobody else here is seeing anything like what you're apparently seeing.

What? Seriously, tell us what you're smoking, because nobody else here is seeing anything like what you're apparently seeing.

I post a screen shot of what I'm seeing and no one else sees it... and you ask me for what I'm smoking?

What more do you want... another screenshot? Look... or maybe you should lay off the smokes.

I'm lost--any help anybody? Could you make some arrows because I'm looking under the navigation arrows trying to find a black band but the only black thing is the Bookmarks Bar separator. :s

I didn't think it'd be so hard to explain to people. I thought descriptions and directions would suffice. I was wrong... so give me a moment and I'll put it up.

I post a screen shot of what I'm seeing and no one else sees it... and you ask me for what I'm smoking?

What more do you want... another screenshot? Look... or maybe you should lay off the smokes.

You know, even though I was just joking, I must say that there is more evidence to you being on something than me, since you're the only one seeing a "black band" in those screenshots.

Modify the screenshot, with something circling what you're trying to point out.

Not having a problem. On white backgrounds you simply get the shadow so you still get definition.

Sorry about the scrollbar on the right. I only have a 12" display which has 1024x768 so the scrollbar was bound to come up. I think you get the picture (no pun intended) with just the left side and bottom edges.

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I'm lost--any help anybody? Could you make some arrows because I'm looking under the navigation arrows trying to find a black band but the only black thing is the Bookmarks Bar separator. :s

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So, pick your superlative and flame away. But that looks like a vertical black band at the left of the Safari window to me.

I'm surprised I had to post a picture with a red circle oval to describe the 'left side of the Safari window'.

Now, if you want to be intelligent and discuss my errors with me, I'm fine with that.

And by the way, I'm trying to make dinner, so at least give me the benefit of 5 minutes to reply.

So, pick your superlative and flame away.

I'm surprised I had to post a picture with a red circle to describe the 'left side of the Safari window'.

Now, if you want to be intelligent and discuss my errors with me, I'm fine with that.

Are you kidding me?

Once again, that's part of the Neowin theme. We already explained this to you. Please, stop with this banter and accept that there is no border on the left side of a Safari window.

And just to help show you, here's an image from my desktop using Firefox on Windows:

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See the same exact thing, except there's also another border from Firefox itself? It's from Neowin.

Are you kidding me?

Once again, that's part of the Neowin theme. We already explained this to you. Please, stop with this banter and accept that there is no border on the left side of a Safari window.

So, IE7 has a border and Safari doesn't and it's Neowin's fault?

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Why do you keep bringing it back to Neowin?

IE7 shows a border, Safari doesn't.

Plain and simple.

ooh... look at the shiny apple logo....

p r e t t y

my bad for trying to have an intelligent discussion.

Hahahaha, I can't believe this guy. Now it's our fault he didn't understand. Wow. I'm done.

You were done before you had the chance to start.

One can't convert the convinced, so you're already... well... <shrug>

And I had a nice red ellipse... and....

Look-

Hahahaha, I can't believe this guy. Now it's our fault he didn't understand. Wow. I'm done.

Sorry, but I have to ask...

Your signature quotes a fiction writer quoting a work of fiction?

What is up with that?

I am genuinely confused by all this... Something about Safari and Neowin and a border?

Anyway, I personally dislike Safari's font smoothing. Even with the light smoothing it seems muddy or blurry to me, whereas ClearType on seems very clean and smooth. I used Safari for a while on Windows, and I couldn't stand to read a large block of text in Safari.

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