Does Safari's cleartype text give you a headache?

[gigapixels Veteran]

We were also trying to have an intelligent discussion, but you can't seem to do so. We already established that Safari has no borders on the sides, whereas IE (and most other Windows apps, for that matter) does. You just seem to be going around in circles and we don't know what the hell is going on. You're still not making any sense.

Sorry you can't seem to follow a discussion properly.

[tao muon]

Yes we already established that fact. So what point are you trying to make?

Well.

1) Neowin has no control over the border of the browser window.

2) Safari does not show a border on the left of the window and its users blame it on Neowin.

3) IE7 on Windows Vista does show a border on the left of the window.

4) Intelligent discussion is out-the-window (pun intended) when it comes to a Windows user trying to talk to a Mac user.

So, night-night.

[APH-Alex]

We don't blame anything on Neowin, we're supporting the fact that there is no border. Some like it that way.

[gigapixels Veteran]

Somebody shoot me. Please. This is by far the most agonizing discussion I've ever participated in on Neowin. Or in my entire life.

[tao muon]

Like I said,

night-night.

Somebody shoot me. Please. This is by far the most agonizing discussion I've ever participated in on Neowin. Or in my entire life.

Ya know, I don't remember you actually being party to the discussion. That is, until you invited yourself in.

[gigapixels Veteran]

Like I said,

night-night.

Ya know, I don't remember you actually being party to the discussion. That is, unless, you invited yourself in.

You must have a really bad memory then. Sorry you've been proven wrong, buddy, but you don't need to be all sore about it.

[Sheppard]

Like I said,

night-night.

Ya know, I don't remember you actually being party to the discussion. That is, until you invited yourself in.

Thats funny, i didnt realise people had to be invited into freely open topics on a public forum.

[The_Decryptor Veteran]

Well, this thread turned entertaining quite quickly. :rofl:

Anyway, font smoothing has never given me a headache (although some people do prefer their fonts to be pixelated), only time i've gotten a headache from my computer was from my old 17 inch CRT, it was blurry, so nothing was in focus)

[PL_ Veteran]

Oh, there are settings for Font Smoothing. What do you know. Well the screenshots were set at the default, Medium, but I've just switch to Light.

IE 7 / Safari at Light / Safari at Medium

Light's much better.

I prefer the furthest right. For me, bolder is easier on the eyes.

Maybe it's because of my screen.

Well.

1) Neowin has no control over the border of the browser window.

2) Safari does not show a border on the left of the window and its users blame it on Neowin.

3) IE7 on Windows Vista does show a border on the left of the window.

4) Intelligent discussion is out-the-window (pun intended) when it comes to a Windows user trying to talk to a Mac user.

So, night-night.

Yeah, you do know you can change the theme of the forum? And what's that got to do with fonts anyway?

[Phixion]

...so...about these fonts! :D

[mattrobs]

Speaking of fonts... free Lucida Grande!

[Joel]

Is it normal to NOT be able to resize a window except in the bottom right corner of a window on the Mac OS? That would drive me nuts.

[Denis W. Veteran]

Is it normal to NOT be able to resize a window except in the bottom right corner of a window on the Mac OS? That would drive me nuts.

For us Windows users, yes. For them, they could have one argument against Windows's implementation of this behaviour:

Of course, having multiple resize locations (especially near other functions, such as the window's minimize/maximize/close buttons) makes it more likely that you will accidentally resize a window.

... and that has happened to me many times.

The lower-right resizing behaviour isn't the only annoying thing about Mac applications being ported over to Windows. Windows users typically flick their mouse to the top right corner to close a maximized window. For Safari that little 1x1 pixel area is transparent, so the window behind Safari is accidentally closed. (It isn't Apple developers that are guilty of this; Windows Media Player 11 for XP has that same idiotic problem.)

Windows users also sometimes drag their scrollbar more than 100 pixels to the left from its original position to "snap back" to its original location. This is useful for reading information located somewhere else on the page, while keeping a temporary bookmark on its original position to refer to thereafter. On Safari the scrollbar stays locked to the mouse's Y coordinate.

In any case, those guys arguing up there about Mac vs. Windows design philosophies should read up on the comparisons between both platforms. Also view this one for the differences between font rendering on both systems.

[Toology]

Font smoothing? More like font fattening. It is indeed subjective and I personally don't like it even at the light setting.

[Joel]

For us Windows users, yes. For them, they could have one argument against Windows's implementation of this behaviour:

Of course, having multiple resize locations (especially near other functions, such as the window's minimize/maximize/close buttons) makes it more likely that you will accidentally resize a window.

... and that has happened to me many times.

Sure, I've done it too, but that's just a question of being accurate in your movements. When I do it, I don't blame Bill Gates, I blame my hand.

[Raikou Tch]

So does anyone have a way to disable font smoothing altogether, or are we stuck using some form of it no matter what?

[A.Gabri]

i have a diffrent question do you really find it faster ? cause i feel that it`s slower than other browsers