neufuse Veteran Posted July 3, 2007 Veteran Share Posted July 3, 2007 source: http://news.moneycentral.msn.com/ticker/ar...amp;Symbol=AAPL good freaking greif thats a nice profit margin for apple.... going by this apple made between $100 million and $150 million in a weekend! NEW YORK (Reuters) - The most expensive iPhone model could deliver a profit margin of more than 55 percent for Apple Inc. after hardware and manufacturing costs, according to iSuppli, which examined the components of the widely anticipated device. Apple shares rose more than 4 percent after the research firm said on Tuesday that the hardware and manufacturing cost was $265.83, or almost 45 percent of the $600 retail price for the iPhone model with eight gigabytes of storage. ISuppli said its estimates did not include costs such as royalties and logistics. Some analysts have also speculated that AT&T Inc. , the exclusive U.S. service provider for the phone, may take a portion of the iPhone retail price for devices it sells in its stores. According to iSuppli, the phone's display, a much lauded feature for the device, costs $27 or about 10.8 percent of the device's hardware costs. The display was supplied by Germany's Balda AG , iSuppli said. The phone's core communications chips, from Infineon Technologies AG , represents $15.25 or 6.1 percent of the cost. The iPhone, which combines phone, music playing and Web browsing capabilities, went on sale on Friday June 29 as thousands of buyers lined up at Apple and AT&T stores. Estimates for Friday and Saturday sales of the device ranged from 312,000 to 500,000, according to analysts contacted by Reuters. AT&T said that iPhone sales for the weekend were the strongest for any device in the company's history. In January, iSuppli said it had estimated a $264.85 hardware and manufacturing cost for the eight-gigabyte device before the firm was able to take the phone apart to look at its components. Apple shares were up $4.85 or almost 4 percent to $126.11 in hectic trading on Nasdaq after the news. Shares of AT&T were down 53 cents at $41.32 on the New York Stock Exchange. Copyright 2007 Reuters Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/571384-apple-iphone-margins-55-percent/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
PL_ Veteran Posted July 3, 2007 Veteran Share Posted July 3, 2007 So THAT'S why it costs so much :| Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/571384-apple-iphone-margins-55-percent/#findComment-588672583 Share on other sites More sharing options...
neufuse Veteran Posted July 3, 2007 Author Veteran Share Posted July 3, 2007 So THAT'S why it costs so much :| Yeah, kinda BS isn't it? Apple fans scream its just $600 of tech... psh... its $300 in profits, i could see $50 to $75 a phone but $300+? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/571384-apple-iphone-margins-55-percent/#findComment-588672595 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackwanders Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Yeah, kinda BS isn't it? Apple fans scream its just $600 of tech... psh... its $300 in profits, i could see $50 to $75 a phone but $300+? This 'analysis' fails to take into account the cost of research and development. Remember, Apple was pouring money into the iPhone for years without seeing one dime in revenue. Each iPhone may havea 55% profit margin, when compared to the manufacturing cost of the phone, but I think it'll be a while before the iPhone represents an overall profit for Apple. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/571384-apple-iphone-margins-55-percent/#findComment-588672622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundayx Veteran Posted July 3, 2007 Veteran Share Posted July 3, 2007 Plus the cost of marketing and logistics has not been taken into, and the profits needs to be shared between T and AAPL. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/571384-apple-iphone-margins-55-percent/#findComment-588672627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sn00pie Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Pretty amazing, 55% profit and it's selling for $600, PS3 is selling for a similiar price but isn't even making a profit. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/571384-apple-iphone-margins-55-percent/#findComment-588672629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheElite Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 This 'analysis' fails to take into account the cost of research and development. Remember, Apple was pouring money into the iPhone for years without seeing one dime in revenue.Each iPhone may havea 55% profit margin, when compared to the manufacturing cost of the phone, but I think it'll be a while before the iPhone represents an overall profit for Apple. You heard 4-5 years ago that Apple was going to sell an iPhone? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/571384-apple-iphone-margins-55-percent/#findComment-588672639 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PL_ Veteran Posted July 3, 2007 Veteran Share Posted July 3, 2007 You heard 4-5 years ago that Apple was going to sell an iPhone? Steve Jobs has been researching a Newton successor for quite a while now. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/571384-apple-iphone-margins-55-percent/#findComment-588672640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
neufuse Veteran Posted July 3, 2007 Author Veteran Share Posted July 3, 2007 Steve Jobs has been researching a Newton successor for quite a while now. But this isn't the successor to the newton... thats the sad thing... Apple is still working on a PDA apparently (rumors) that has scribble input like the newton did Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/571384-apple-iphone-margins-55-percent/#findComment-588672646 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundayx Veteran Posted July 3, 2007 Veteran Share Posted July 3, 2007 ^I think the multi touch interface is a good dip into the handheld/tablet market. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/571384-apple-iphone-margins-55-percent/#findComment-588672748 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PL_ Veteran Posted July 3, 2007 Veteran Share Posted July 3, 2007 But this isn't the successor to the newton... thats the sad thing... Apple is still working on a PDA apparently (rumors) that has scribble input like the newton did Please...this is the closest we'll get to a Newton successor. They'd be better making an iPhone Pro or something. Newton failed anyways, and companies tend to avoid places where they've failed badly before (i.e. Mac Portable - PowerBook) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/571384-apple-iphone-margins-55-percent/#findComment-588672821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boz Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Please...this is the closest we'll get to a Newton successor. They'd be better making an iPhone Pro or something.Newton failed anyways, and companies tend to avoid places where they've failed badly before (i.e. Mac Portable - PowerBook) Interesting view, now when you said it, the lack of many features on the current iPhone could explain the release of the more powerful iPhone pro. Very interesting, you might be onto something here. I mean they already have the hardware, all they have to do is sell us a $799 version of the same phone with more functionality. This could explain the completely CLOSED DOWN phone features. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/571384-apple-iphone-margins-55-percent/#findComment-588672972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakey Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 who here cant wait to pay $800 for the iphonepro!!!? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/571384-apple-iphone-margins-55-percent/#findComment-588672974 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleThink Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 So THAT'S why it costs so much :| Greed. Yes, that's all it is. :ermm: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/571384-apple-iphone-margins-55-percent/#findComment-588672995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackwanders Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 You heard 4-5 years ago that Apple was going to sell an iPhone? No, you're right. He just threw it together single-handedly the weekend before it was announced :s Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/571384-apple-iphone-margins-55-percent/#findComment-588673015 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agnes Leroy Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 Apple is the Shylock of the consumer electronics segment. I am waiting for Antonio (Nokia/Sony Ericcson/Samsung?) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/571384-apple-iphone-margins-55-percent/#findComment-588674222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholas-c Veteran Posted July 4, 2007 Veteran Share Posted July 4, 2007 so basically if they weren't such money grabbing idiots we could have it cheaper.. fun Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/571384-apple-iphone-margins-55-percent/#findComment-588674242 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheElite Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 No, you're right. He just threw it together single-handedly the weekend before it was announced:s It was all pure speculation up until a year ago, so unless you're Jobs brother, I doubt anyone even contemplated the iPhone 4 or 5 years ago. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/571384-apple-iphone-margins-55-percent/#findComment-588674250 Share on other sites More sharing options...
agrobbin Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 Q: How long has the iPhone been in development?Jobs: We started with the iPhone three years ago. We're product folks ? we wanted to create a phone we loved. When we started this, none of us loved our phones. Yet, if you talk to iPod owners, or Mac owners, they love their iPods and Macs. We wanted to make a phone so great, you couldn't imagine going anywhere without it. That was our goal, and we think we achieved it. That's why we have such butterflies in our stomach. We'll get to see Friday if people agree with us. Source: http://www.usatoday.com/tech/techinvestor/...henson-qa_N.htm Maybe not 4 years but at least 3 according to Jobs. --Alex Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/571384-apple-iphone-margins-55-percent/#findComment-588674270 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackwanders Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 It was all pure speculation up until a year ago, so unless you're Jobs brother, I doubt anyone even contemplated the iPhone 4 or 5 years ago. Do you really think Apple took the iPhone from 'sparkle in Steve's eye' to 'manufacturing' in a single year? Don't you understand what R&D is? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/571384-apple-iphone-margins-55-percent/#findComment-588674761 Share on other sites More sharing options...
giga Veteran Posted July 4, 2007 Veteran Share Posted July 4, 2007 It was all pure speculation up until a year ago, so unless you're Jobs brother, I doubt anyone even contemplated the iPhone 4 or 5 years ago. I vaguely remember seeing FCC documents and patent filings for some sort of touchscreen item. Many thought of a tablet.. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/571384-apple-iphone-margins-55-percent/#findComment-588674794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sn00pie Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 We all thought it was a widescreen/touchscreen iPod for movies. Remember that? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/571384-apple-iphone-margins-55-percent/#findComment-588674941 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazysah Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 Man... Can't apple reduce the [rice by atleast 50$. Don't they have enoguh profits? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/571384-apple-iphone-margins-55-percent/#findComment-588674950 Share on other sites More sharing options...
backdrifter Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 I cant blame Apple for this, I wouldn't cut down my profit margins neither, if people happily paid for my product. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/571384-apple-iphone-margins-55-percent/#findComment-588674976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheElite Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 Do you really think Apple took the iPhone from 'sparkle in Steve's eye' to 'manufacturing' in a single year?Don't you understand what R&D is? The info didn't leak about any production of an iPhone. Thats why it was all speculation. So I doubt ANYONE knew for certain it was being made 4-5 years ago, even you. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/571384-apple-iphone-margins-55-percent/#findComment-588678323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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