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Even if he is announced to still be in the cast doesn't mean he is 'alive' on the show.

Yep. Ian summerhaller (boone) was in the cast notes on "do no harm" one eppsode after he died

That was "Busted" by Mythbusters, a sinking ship will NOT pull you under.

who says? The force of the watter pulling in will suck you down with the ship..... cuz the ship had a huge hole in it, whitch caused it to sink and anything remaining on the ship to be pulled down....

i have to say that this finale did not fell like lost at all, it was dark and totally diferent from the past.....

I also wonder the fate of desomand. I wonder if charles knew he was on "his" island and that he came back. Would he give des a shot with pen, perhaps to save her from ben? Or will he kill him or send him back to the island. could he have sent pen and des to the island and that comment "you'll never find her" mean the island?

I hope des makes it to the end

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Yes, it is possible he lived. Michael is dead, however.

Locke is also dead. The future is the future, not a possible future. But don't worry, he'll be alive through probably all of S5, and killed in the S5 finale.

I know this will sound crazy, but hear me out on this.

When I was looking at some of the screen captures of Locke in the coffin, I didn't see the scar under his right eye. Now that could of course be the angle of the camera, makeup, lighting, etc., but it got me wondering if this is actually someone else.

I can't imagine who and why it looks like Locke, but just a possibility I'm throwing out there. I am, after all, running on very little sleep the last 72 hours, so it could also be in my head :p

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I know this will sound crazy, but hear me out on this.

When I was looking at some of the screen captures of Locke in the coffin, I didn't see the scar under his right eye. Now that could of course be the angle of the camera, makeup, lighting, etc., but it got me wondering if this is actually someone else.

I can't imagine who and why it looks like Locke, but just a possibility I'm throwing out there. I am, after all, running on very little sleep the last 72 hours, so it could also be in my head :p

Morticians cover scars and stuff for funerals.

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There were two rabbits in the Swan orientation video mishap, so the possibility of one being Locke Locke and the other being.... other Locke, could still be there; that's assuming Locke does whatever Hallawax/Candle did to make two bunnies.

One other note: before finally seeing that Ben did in fact travel through time to the future, his situation was different from Desmond's. Desmond's time travel was mental, while Ben's was physical. It's possible, though unlikely, that when Ben moved the wheel to move the island, that a double was made of him, one on the island, another in the Sahara, but I don't see that being the case.

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also this flash forward took place in april 2007

Pretty sure the 'We have to go back!' was August 07, and by the end, its later than that. Remember, Kate said 'I've been trying for three years to forget what happened the day we left." Now, that doesn't mean it has to be exactly three years -- Jan 08 -- but it certainly means more than, say, two and a half, which would be summer 07.

There were two rabbits in the Swan orientation video mishap, so the possibility of one being Locke Locke and the other being.... other Locke, could still be there; that's assuming Locke does whatever Hallawax/Candle did to make two bunnies.

One other note: before finally seeing that Ben did in fact travel through time to the future, his situation was different from Desmond's. Desmond's time travel was mental, while Ben's was physical. It's possible, though unlikely, that when Ben moved the wheel to move the island, that a double was made of him, one on the island, another in the Sahara, but I don't see that being the case.

Yup, Ben time traveled right from the frozen donkey wheel in Jan 05 to the Sahara desert in Oct 05.

I know this will sound crazy, but hear me out on this.

When I was looking at some of the screen captures of Locke in the coffin, I didn't see the scar under his right eye. Now that could of course be the angle of the camera, makeup, lighting, etc., but it got me wondering if this is actually someone else.

I can't imagine who and why it looks like Locke, but just a possibility I'm throwing out there. I am, after all, running on very little sleep the last 72 hours, so it could also be in my head :p

The 'doppleganger' theory is interesting, and it would explain why Locke left the island. I couldn't see him doing so willingly, unless he was told to by say, Jacob. But if its the scars that you think prove this, you're missing something. Something that creates a duplicate would also duplicate the scars. Remember, the duplicate bunny had the number painted, and that was just painted on.

Maybe that's the reason he can never go back. Like the duplicate bunnies, who can't be close to each other.

I think Ben said the person can't go back because the island wouldn't want him back. I'll be pretty mad though if the Oceanic Six + Locke go back and Ben doesn't go with them. By the way, does anyone think they have to bring Lapidus and Walt and Desmond too?

One other thing, on the frozen donkey wheel... is the 'teleporting' random, or is each position on the wheel a different place for the island to go. Meaning, basically, there are eight possible locations for the island.

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Anybody knows what Song/Artist was Jack listening to in the truck..... when he goes to that coffin place
"Gouge Away": Jack is listening to this Pixies song on the way back to the funeral home. Pixies singer Black Francis was born on April 6th, the date after Jack's newspaper was published. The Pixies were also a favorite band of Nirvana singer Kurt Cobain, whose song Scentless Apprentice was played in Jack's first visit to the funeral home in Through the Looking Glass. Gouge Away is the 15th song on the album Doolittle.(Music)
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I don't know, it just seems right. After all, Charlotte decided to stay on the island and find her place of birth.

The daughter idea is an interesting theory. Ben might not know about having a daughter, that's possible. But I doubt that is Annie.

The actress is not even 30 year who plays Charlotte, so I'm assuming the character is around the same age (25-30). Michael Emerson is 54, so I think we can safely say that the character is around that age as well.

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The daughter idea is an interesting theory. Ben might not know about having a daughter, that's possible. But I doubt that is Annie.

The actress is not even 30 year who plays Charlotte, so I'm assuming the character is around the same age (25-30). Michael Emerson is 54, so I think we can safely say that the character is around that age as well.

Exactly, which is why we can safely assume that Charlotte is NOT Annie, even though the finale heavily alluded to some form of past on the island.

Not to mention, there is a striking resemblance.

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Well her being to young certainly one point to be made, but what about the fact that Ben would have known that when he outed who she was to the group going to the Barracks?

There's some kind of tie to the island and possibly Dharma from her brief flashback scene and the discussion she had with Miles and then with Daniel. With that said, Ben got his information from Michael, so it's possible that some of what Michael found in her background information was forged.

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The daughter idea is an interesting theory. Ben might not know about having a daughter, that's possible. But I doubt that is Annie.

The actress is not even 30 year who plays Charlotte, so I'm assuming the character is around the same age (25-30). Michael Emerson is 54, so I think we can safely say that the character is around that age as well.

Ben was born in the early 60s, so he's pushing 50. Locke won't even reach 54 with his death in 2007 (born in 56)

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