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http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/youwillkno....php?pageid=240

Watch that, think back on Season 4.5 webisodes and the prophecy...

Felix Gaeta is the final Cylon. They are just making it too obvious at this point, unless this is some huge misleading direction Moore is planning....

I always had the thought that whoever lost a limb would probably be a Cylon because of Saul, but if it's Gaeta, it's way, way, way too obvious. I think they're just trying to throw us off. All of these clues are doing everything but flat out saying, "Gaeta is the final Cylon," and that's not like Moore from what I've observed.

All of these clues are doing everything but flat out saying, "Gaeta is the final Cylon," and that's not like Moore from what I've observed.

That's assuming that finding out the 5th is the ultimate end game and they care about guarding it for much longer. Sure, they've toyed with us about this all season, but admit it... it was a hell of a hook to keep people interested during that insanely long hiatus.

It's very possible that they're being so cavalier with this information because the identity could be revealed within the next couple of episodes. We can all agree it's been dragged out as long as it should have. If that's the case, we can finally all move on past this plot point and follow the series on it's ride "home".

So when is the next episode and last pat of the series being shown?

Or is it today?

And I too hope it isn't Gaeta, not only is it a bit obvious now I think it would be a bit lame, lol.

Today is the beginning of the second half of the fourth season, and I think they're going to go with a straight run. I see no reason for SciFi to put breaks between shows.

I just checked to see if SPACE [Canadian station; we don't get SciFi] was airing BSG tonight, and they are--they're airing the Webisodes at 9 and then episode 4x11 at 10. They 'preview blurb' for the episode is simply...

The fifth Cylon is revealed.

Not MUCH of a spoiler really, but I wasn't expecting it so soon.

Also, checking out Youwillknowthetruth.com again, the 'final clue' says:

NEW CLUE

22:59:44

...It's not counting down, though. So I assume it's saying that at 10:59:44 tonight we'll get our 'final clue'. However, I have a feeling that our final clue will be the actual reveal time in the episode... Right at the end of the episode, of course.

One of the previews on YouTube of 4.5 showed the actress who played Callie, who is currently dead. I saw her in the background in one of the clue videos, the one with Roslin getting off the viper and everyone is just staring at her. In the 4.5 trailer, she talked about how they tried to make this season the best, etc. etc., but she could have been referring to season 4 as a whole, not the second half. On the surface, having her as the final Cylon doesn't appear to have the magnitude as several other characters being it.

I got the impression from this that the final Cylon would be multiple people for some reason, what with Starbuck finding her dead body and Duwala killing herself for no reason, but after so much suspense, it ends up being Ellen? Oooooh, aaaaah, that's like... totally... utterly.... shocking.... or not. At least the show held onto its own words that the 5th wasn't in the fleet. Looking forward to how they explain Starbuck's original ship and body being on Earth, even though it was destroyed near the end of season three light years away. I hope that there's some kind of significance with Ellen being the fifth, because she never played a key or pivotal role, not that I recall.

I thought the writers had suggested that anyone shown at the table is not a cylon and that the empty siollouette between Tigh and Lee Adama where a cup sits is a placeholder for the final cylon. Given the reference, I thought it possible for it to be Ellen Tigh but she would have woke up in a goo bath by now or more likely, Lee's wife, Dualla Adama, to be the fifth. I'm leaning towards the fifth being a woman because we already have seven men, and four women, if they do endeavor to be human and reproduce, it would make sense the ratio would level out at 7/5.

More on the Ellen Tigh theory... we have no idea if the poison Sol gave her would kill a cylon so it's possible she fainted, he left her in the dirt dugeon, she woke up and humans and cylons had left New Caprica and she's stuck there alone.

If we took a literal reference of the position of the missing character, than it would relate to Judas (betrayer of Jesus)...

I hate being right all the time. Ellen Tigh was the betrayer of the human resistance on New Caprica. So what do they do now, jump back to New Caprica and exhume her?

Tonight was an interesting episode, excited to see how the series flushes out now.

I hate being right all the time. Ellen Tigh was the betrayer of the human resistance on New Caprica. So what do they do now, jump back to New Caprica and exhume her?

Tonight was an interesting episode, excited to see how the series flushes out now.

You nailed it!

Wow, that scene with Adama and Tigh was intense. Those two are just awesome actors.

Interesting how they are gonna go from there, but I have a couple ways it could go. One of which is still the dreaded "reset" sorta, but not quite. The other is more interesting and would make for some good TV :D

This episode had me sitting in shock nearly the whole way through. The whole Starbuck-finding-herself thing, the scene with Dee [holy ****], Roslin burning the book... Everything was just so... wow.

I didn't like that part... I felt like it was overacted and stupid.

I somewhat feel this way, but eventually when they got to talking about the men walking out into the sea, I felt like looking at the clock and asking, "Are we done yet?" in regards to the scene.

see why did I said that the 5th cylon wasnt important?. See why I said that this series is the best out there?.

This episode literaly blow your mind... Of course, if you follow the series.

Didn't blow my mind... maybe Dualla's but not mine. :D

I have a feeling that the six on board Galactica in holding will give birth to an 'Ellen'. Yes it sounds strange, but I believe that the final five can not be resurrected as typical cylons but may only be reincarnated. At the end of the episode we hear Ellen mention that they will be together again.

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