Battlestar Galactica Season 4

[Hupp]

i just had a thought that explains kara.

what if she is ty and ellens daughter. being a true cylon child and that would allow her to be reborn the same way ellen said they would be 2000 years ago. since they forgot they were cylons over time they could of easily forgot kara and kara them.

^its a stretch but it may make her lucky #7

[Mathachew Veteran]

i just had a thought that explains kara.

what if she is ty and ellens daughter. being a true cylon child and that would allow her to be reborn the same way ellen said they would be 2000 years ago. since they forgot they were cylons over time they could of easily forgot kara and kara them.

^its a stretch but it may make her lucky #7

Ya know, I could see Moore doing something like this. To me it's like the attitude of, "You didn't seeeeee the person die, so they could be alive!"

[.Neo]

I still wonder in what way the "Battlestar Galactica Earth" resembles real-life Earth. I mean our species did evolve on Earth, there have been ancient civilizations here etc. Why would a civilization capable of space travel revert to a hunter and gatherer like society? Next to that we still haven't seen a clear shot of "Earth's" continents proofing it's actually "our" Earth after the fleet's arrival, which kind of bugs me.

So in short: 1. Does the BS:G Earth share any of the real Earth's history or none at all? & 2. Is this planet actually Earth to begin with? That's what I'd like to know.

[Hupp]

I still wonder in what way the "Battlestar Galactica Earth" resembles real-life Earth. I mean our species did evolve on Earth, there have been ancient civilizations here etc. Why would a civilization capable of space travel revert to a hunter and gatherer like society? Next to that we still haven't seen a clear shot of "Earth's" continents proofing it's actually "our" Earth after the fleet's arrival, which kind of bugs me.

So in short: 1. Does the BS:G Earth share any of the real Earth's history or none at all? & 2. Is this planet actually Earth to begin with? That's what I'd like to know.

well you saw how a technically advanced civilization started living on new caprica, they werent very advanced at all. most of them wanted to return to something simpler to escape. so that would explain why they would revert back.

1. none currently

2. yes it is our earth just maybe not our time

[Mathachew Veteran]

Yes, it's earth, we saw a shot of it from space at the end of the season 3 finale.

[+Nik Louch Subscriber²]

You know - with BSG starting with so much tension between Starbuch and Tigh - makes you wonder if their whole relationship structure was one huge curveball.

[Hupp]

kara has ellens promiscuity and tigh temper;

her "mother" fought in the first cylon war and soemone how might of came to possess kara either by choice or obligation . she was from an abused home, maybe someone knew something they werent sharing.

kara and tigh have always kind of had that estranged father daughter thing going. they are just at each others throats way too much not to be, and she is never good enough for tigh no matter how hard she tries.

damn you bsg for making me think about you on a monday....

[GameOverRob]

The president woman is just so annoying now, I just want her to be killed off, she is so moany etc...

What if it is just a copy of earth? - The Cylons who were created by humans and exlied/left - went away and made a copy of earth? - Just like that episode of Stargate Atlantis; where the replicators had an exact copy of Atlantis?

[.Neo]

well you saw how a technically advanced civilization started living on new caprica, they werent very advanced at all. most of them wanted to return to something simpler to escape. so that would explain why they would revert back.

There were billboards standing around showing housing and new apartment building projects, but then the Cylons arrived. Going from a temp solution such as tents with FTL-star ships standing in the background and in orbit to a strictly hunter-gatherer society is a big step. :p

What if it is just a copy of earth? - The Cylons who were created by humans and exlied/left - went away and made a copy of earth? - Just like that episode of Stargate Atlantis; where the replicators had an exact copy of Atlantis?

That's what I've been thinking as well. We haven't seen a single clear shot of this Earth from orbit since the fleet arrived, so maybe the real Earth is still out there. On the other hand, with 9 episodes still left I think that won't happen.

[iamwhoiam]

I bet the so called humans are actually advanced Cylons, and the Cylons are all just caught in a cycle, who keep being reincarnated/resurrected.

I think so too.

[+Nik Louch Subscriber²]

They referenced haleys commet and the rings of jupiter. It's our earth.

[Hupp]

There were billboards standing around showing housing and new apartment building projects, but then the Cylons arrived. Going from a temp solution such as tents with FTL-star ships standing in the background and in orbit to a strictly hunter-gatherer society is a big step. :p

That's what I've been thinking as well. We haven't seen a single clear shot of this Earth from orbit since the fleet arrived, so maybe the real Earth is still out there. On the other hand, with 9 episodes still left I think that won't happen.

yeah but it would also be thousands of years to go back to that, unlikely but plausible :)

[.Neo]

They referenced haleys commet and the rings of jupiter. It's our earth.

Ah ok. Oh well.

[Yusuf M. Veteran]

It's definitely Earth, but only 2000 years (give or take a decade) into the future. From what we know, the human population was wiped out by a global nuclear war. It's possible that "our history" has already happened.

[.Neo]

It's possible that "our history" has already happened.

How? "We" turned out to be Cylons as well. ;)

[Yusuf M. Veteran]

How? "We" turned out to be Cylons as well. ;)

That's assuming everyone that migrated to Earth was a Cylon. Honestly, I'm not even sure anymore. :wacko:

[ThePitt]

We're all Cylons: Battlestar Galactica?s last days

If your country was invaded and occupied by a foreign power, would you blow yourself up to fight back? If someone pointed a gun at your head and threatened to pull the trigger if you refused to sign a document you knew would lead to a hundred deaths (and you signed!), would that make you ultimately responsible for those deaths? Does superior technology give you the moral right to impose your will on a technologically inferior culture? If something believes it's a human being, acts human, and looks human, should you treat it as human? And what the hell is human anyway?

You wouldn't expect a mainstream television show to tackle such philosophically loaded questions, certainly not a show based on cheesy science fiction from the '70s, but if you've watched Battlestar Galactica since it was reimagined in 2003, there has been no escape.

Time Magazine named it one of the best TV shows of all time and called it "a ripping sci-fi allegory of the war on terror, complete with religious fundamentalists (here, genocidal robots called Cylons), sleeper cells, civil-liberties crackdowns and even a prisoner-torture scandal."

http://www.sffmedia.com/tv/science-fiction...-last-days.html

[Yusuf M. Veteran]

Whoa! I totally forgot about Caprica, the spin-off series and prequel to Battlestar Galactica. Watch the trailer here.

WARNING: The hidden text below could be a major spoiler.

Is it true everyone's a Cylon? I keep hearing rumours about it. Please, say it ain't so.

[LOC Veteran]

Just a friendly reminder, new episode tonight at 10 Eastern :)

[Mathachew Veteran]

Was it just me, or did that episode wreak of filler? Chief's baby isn't really his and Lee made a slip of the tongue about the final dead Cylon. Oh, we did see the start of an uprising within the fleet, but several of the scenes seemed to be drawn out. Last batch of episodes of the series and they gave us this? Last week's was awesome in comparison and I didn't find it to be that grand.

[CentralDogma]

Yeah Adama! :D

[Budious]

Was it just me, or did that episode wreak of filler? Chief's baby isn't really his and Lee made a slip of the tongue about the final dead Cylon. Oh, we did see the start of an uprising within the fleet, but several of the scenes seemed to be drawn out. Last batch of episodes of the series and they gave us this? Last week's was awesome in comparison and I didn't find it to be that grand.

I do remember reading that filming stopped around episode 13(~15w/razor?) with the writer's strike and that Ron Moore had a long time to think about how he wanted to close the show and reworked his intended ending into something more spectacular when filming resumed.

[Mathachew Veteran]

I do remember reading that filming stopped around episode 13(~15w/razor?) with the writer's strike and that Ron Moore had a long time to think about how he wanted to close the show and reworked his intended ending into something more spectacular when filming resumed.

While that may be true, wasn't it decided long before the writer's strike that the show would have 22 episodes (first 2 for Razor) and that the fourth season would be the last?

Another thing I'd like to point out. The hype behind the 5th Cylon was built up by the writers. "Seven are known. Four live in secret. One will be revealed." Half of season 4 was spent with those leading words in the opening credits, which makes the revelation a bust.

[d3bruts1d]

Was it just me, or did that episode wreak of filler? Chief's baby isn't really his and Lee made a slip of the tongue about the final dead Cylon. Oh, we did see the start of an uprising within the fleet, but several of the scenes seemed to be drawn out. Last batch of episodes of the series and they gave us this? Last week's was awesome in comparison and I didn't find it to be that grand.

Yes, last night's episode was pure crap. Reminds me of just about every episode from S2E1 on.

[ThePitt]

nah... The episode was great. Its a revolution on a revolution on a yet destroyed ppl/community. Everyone is somehow leaving the show, thats what it seems to be.

and Lee made a slip of the tongue about the final dead Cylon

I think that (finally) explain why the last cylon wasnt important. This is not lost. "We" dont need a hang to keep watching an empty series. Galactica is more than that. By far.

If you try to remember how they get there, how Roslin was president and how she is ending, you will see how the character was developed. And thats just her.

We didnt expect either that kid wasnt the chief kid. And a lot less that was the hotdog kid, heh. She was pregnant when he was leading the revolution on that planet, and he didnt know that he was actually a cylon.

The series is about to end and I think that every episode is pure gold, because every character is saying good bye.