Battlestar Galactica Season 4

[Budious]

my conclusions from last night:

1. Kara is Ellen and Tigh Child, she was resurrected by there original resurrection ship where ever that may be.

2. Daniel is Gaius Baltar. They had that early cylon warning system Ellen mention to Cavil(john) where they all see someone to warn them. Of course that is head-six.

Those are good interpretations as well. I was curious about Ellen's "One true God" mantra she went on about to Cavil, she sounded a lot like Baltar's interpretation of a single deity controlling their fates.

[ATGC]

@ Hupp

Baltar being the 7th makes sense and about Kara too, nice theory. I hope its true. :D

But didn't Galactica do a scan of the planet and around its orbit? All scouts reported the entire planet was nuked. I wonder where their resurrection ship is, perhaps its just a small vessel that even the Cylons on Earth couldn't find it due to the apparent war there.

[Budious]

In the Razor miniseries, you had the renegade hybrid and basestar, with the old cylons like the ones found on Earth. I'm thinking maybe they know something more about Kara since it was their hybrid that said she was the harbinger of death. Wherever the resurrection ship is, it's equipped with a pretty good metal shop too (don't forget the spanking viper)... well, only five more episodes to have all our questions answered or to be left hanging.

[Hupp]

@ Hupp

Baltar being the 7th makes sense and about Kara too, nice theory. I hope its true. :D

But didn't Galactica do a scan of the planet and around its orbit? All scouts reported the entire planet was nuked. I wonder where their resurrection ship is, perhaps its just a small vessel that even the Cylons on Earth couldn't find it due to the apparent war there.

didn't her "new" viper have a ftl drive though? so that really does not limit where Ellen and the original 5 may have hidden their resurrection ship.

[LOC Veteran]

Don't forget, Cavil aka John said that Ellen had a small lab that they used to recreate (or create I guess) resurrection tech. Maybe that's where Kara came back, or maybe Kara didn't come back at all, or maybe it's something to do with something else entirely....

[Yusuf M. Veteran]

Great episode. I'm glad they revealed so much. The whole back story of the first Cylon war was very interesting. I knew Cavil hated the humans but damn, he's the most machine-like Cylon in all of Battlestar Galactica. The way he went on about wanting to see gamma rays and x-rays instead of visible light was just "cold". To be honest, I had no idea he despised having a human body.

[Hupp]

anyone else think Ellen's colony is "our" earth? rdm said they reached earth and when pressed if its "ours"

They have found Earth. This is the Earth that the 13th Colony discovered, they christened it Earth. They found Earth.

for all we know "our" earth has a different name in this universe

[HawkMan]

anyone else think Ellen's colony is "our" earth? rdm said they reached earth and when pressed if its "ours"

for all we know "our" earth has a different name in this universe

or it doesn't exist at all.

[Hupp]

true true either way the fact that she has a colony hidden away that evidently only her and cavil know about so far is intriguing.

anyone seen the Canadian promo for next week to see if its any different?

[cbosdell]

true true either way the fact that she has a colony hidden away that evidently only her and cavil know about so far is intriguing.

Where did you get that idea? To me it seemed pretty clear she was talking about Earth.

[Starcom826]

anyone else think Ellen's colony is "our" earth? rdm said they reached earth and when pressed if its "ours"

for all we know "our" earth has a different name in this universe

I think it might be something like that. When Starbuck said she had found Earth at the end of the 3rd season, it zoomed in on North America. Definitely our Earth. When they landed on the planet called Earth, the planet was mostly shadowed and you couldn't really see any of the landmasses.

[Antaris Veteran]

Great episode, lots of bits of the story are finally starting to fit into place.

I also like the idea that Baltar might be a Daniel?

[.Neo]

I think it might be something like that. When Starbuck said she had found Earth at the end of the 3rd season, it zoomed in on North America. Definitely our Earth. When they landed on the planet called Earth, the planet was mostly shadowed and you couldn't really see any of the landmasses.

That's something I still don't get and I've brought it up right after the the episode where the fleet reached "Earth". In one episode they show us a picture of our Earth with North America clearly visible, but when the fleet actually arrives all we see are vague shadows from which we can't identify a single known continent.

[Hupp]

Where did you get that idea? To me it seemed pretty clear she was talking about Earth.

John said; they don't know about your colony; all your equipment is still there. If its the "earth" the fleet went to and Ellen came from she would already know it was destroyed. I think that would of been mentioned, if it was the same location.

[+Warwagon MVC]

Informative Yes, but the as a whole that episode was a snoozer.

[Budious]

I also like the idea that Baltar might be a Daniel?

I had the episode on my DVR and watched it through for a second time again, from the Ellen spoke of the Daniel model being as if she had known it personally, and only mentioned that the copies being created in the goo and DNA sequence had been sabotaged, nothing was ever said specifically of the 'prototype' Daniel which already existed. I assume likewise for Cavils, John may be more specifically the prototype model 1, created prior to mass production of the model. If Baltar or another character is the Daniel, I suspect we find out next week.

Also, anyone notice the relationships between the thirteenth colony cylons and the humaniod model cylons, each have been paired off with a member of the other throughout the series so far. John and Ellen, Saul and Caprica Six, Tyrol and Boomer (will they get back together now?), Tori and Baltar (is he?), Anders and Starbuck (is she?)

[gigapixels Veteran]

Finally watched the latest episode... It's getting better and better. I can't wait for next week.

[+Warwagon MVC]

Wasn't the brain doctor The PC off the apple Mac Ads?

[Budious]

Wasn't the brain doctor The PC off the apple Mac Ads?

Yeah, I thought it was a horrible casting decision, but apparently he befriended the producers after making a set visit for an interview during the first season. I guess the cameo was at his request.

[Mathachew Veteran]

I guess the actor is as dorky as he portrays himself to be on the Mac commercials, because his mannerism was spot on to the ads :|

[Yusuf M. Veteran]

Wasn't the brain doctor The PC off the apple Mac Ads?

Yeah, it's the same person. I noticed him right away. His signature voice and face... it just screams PC.

Anyway, does anyone remember the episode where they used the arrow of Apollo? It somehow teleported them to Earth because they were able to see certain constellations. At least that's how I remember it.

EDIT: Never mind. I kinda knew it was too farftech'd. Apparently, the tomb of Athena showed a holographic representation of Earth.

Edited February 16, 2009 by Anaron

[Crimson Behelit]

Regarding the 7 'Daniel',

I re watched the episode and noticed some interesting dialogue between Anders and Starbuck.

Starbuck: The 7... tell me.

Anders: Yes! 7... 7... 7 was the... Daniel.

Starbuck: You're sure about the word? Daniel?

Anders: Yes. He died... Daniel died. She was 7. I'm sure.

Anders refers to Daniel as a he and a she.

[+Nik Louch Subscriber²]

I just had a thought....

Kara "Starbuck" Thrace went into that maelstrom. Then she comes back, having seen Earth. Then she finds herself on Earth.

I think this... She swapped places. With herself. From another time.

?

Either way - one of my favourite episodes!

[Hupp]

Regarding the 7 'Daniel',

I re watched the episode and noticed some interesting dialogue between Anders and Starbuck.

Starbuck: The 7... tell me.

Anders: Yes! 7... 7... 7 was the... Daniel.

Starbuck: You're sure about the word? Daniel?

Anders: Yes. He died... Daniel died. She was 7. I'm sure.

Anders refers to Daniel as a he and a she.

i just rewatched it again. Anders says HE and its perfectly clear.

[Crimson Behelit]

i just rewatched it again. Anders says HE and its perfectly clear.

Get your hearing checked friend. Yes he refers to Daniel as a he first, but follows it up with a she. It's perfectly clear.