Battlestar Galactica Season 4

[+Nik Louch Subscriber²]

He says 10! ;)

[Hupp]

Get your hearing checked friend. Yes he refers to Daniel as a he first, but follows it up with a she. It's perfectly clear.

i guess you can hear anything you want

[Yusuf M. Veteran]

i just rewatched it again. Anders says HE and its perfectly clear.

He clearly says "she was 7". I know it. I watched the scene at least 3 times. He follows with "I'm sure". Why don't you watch this to jog your memory?

WARNING: Click the link at your own discretion. It's a part of episode 15.

i guess you can hear anything you want

True, but only if there's something wrong with your sense of hearing.

[Mathachew Veteran]

He clearly was speaking fast at that point. Going with context of what was stated, it is likely he. I can't believe we're having another one of these arguments.

[Crimson Behelit]

He clearly was speaking fast at that point. Going with context of what was stated, it is likely he. I can't believe we're having another one of these arguments.

This is not 'another one of those' conversations. No one is trying to lip-read 'he' or 'she' (like six or ten).

The line was deliberate and was hidden/woven into the scene for one reason or another: it's either a clue or red herring. There is nothing to interpret, Anders says,

"Yes. He died... Daniel died. She was 7. I'm sure.".

Skip ahead to the 5 min mark in the Youtube vid linked above.

Edited February 17, 2009 by Crimson Behelit

[Hupp]

its cool canadians maybe it was a she in your broadcast :D

[Yusuf M. Veteran]

He clearly was speaking fast at that point. Going with context of what was stated, it is likely he. I can't believe we're having another one of these arguments.

I don't know what you mean by that, but I'm going by what the character said. I know what I heard. The YouTube video is proof. Watch it if you haven't done so already.

This is not 'another one of those' conversations. No one is trying to lip-read 'he' or 'she' (like six or ten).

The line was deliberate and was hidden/woven into the scene for one reason or another: it's either a clue or red herring. There is nothing to interpret, Anders says,

"Yes. He died... Daniel died. She was 7. I'm sure.".

Skip ahead to the 5 min mark in the Youtube vid linked above.

Thank you!

its cool canadians maybe it was a she in your broadcast :D

That makes no sense, haha. I doubt they would do that. Why would they make Canadians hear "She"? :laugh:

Anyway, I invite others to watch the YouTube video in my previous post. Pay close attention to what Anders says. You can clearly hear him say "She". Heck, crank up your volume to max and hear it. He says "She" and then says "I'm sure". I know he said it because the the first part of "she" and "sure (shure)" sounded similar.

[Hupp]

I can hear what people might think is him saying She, but I hear it as him with a stutter in his throat. hopefully well find out next week

[ATGC]

Some people to need to clean their ears :D

Anders said Daniel was a he.

[Zathras5]

Daniel was a male. Watch this, listen to Ellen at 15 secs in...

"Daniel was an artist, so sensitive to the world. I was very close to him."

[Mathachew Veteran]

So we have two definitive male references, one debatable female reference. Considering the state of mind of both Cylons at the time they spoke the words, I'm going to have to go with Daniel being a male, the argument I made from the start.

[Yusuf M. Veteran]

Wow, I frakked up. I watched a better source with some high quality headphones and concluded that Anders said "He" instead of "She". It definitely sounded like the latter but it was merely the way he pronounced the word. I formally retract my previous posts regarding this issue. By the way, I knew the Daniel model was a male but I guess I was hoping it would be Kara Thrace. My bad! :wacko:

/me cleans ears, vigorously

[Budious]

I was watching some of the BSG marathon of episodes from season 3 - 4 on Sci-Fi today and noticed a small bit of discontinuity. Remember back in season 2 (I think) when Starbuck injures her knee and she can't take the G forces of flying a mark II viper with her bum knee. Well, at the end of season 3 when the cylons attack, Anders has a knee injury of some type, hobbling in it, then he suits and jumps in a mark II viper when the cylons show up and pilots it fine, other than fumbling with the gun trigger. I wouldn't have thought much of it if he had at least been flying the mark VII viper... :hmmm:

[Beastage]

All we need is strength... and strength comes from within... and guns! more guns! bigger guns! better guns!

lol, that cracked me up (along with his cliche acting)

[Mathachew Veteran]

This episode was mostly dull, and I just might shoot myself if I have to deal with Adama's drinking habit yet again.

[Budious]

This episode was mostly dull, and I just might shoot myself if I have to deal with Adama's drinking habit yet again.

I thought maybe the Ellen Tigh character would have a change, but she was the same old nagging bitch she has always been, I can see why Saul Tigh went after a better piece of ass after millenniums of putting up with her. They say the five of them were close, but I just can't see it with the way the characters are written. Another transition episode, setting up an intense episode to come later. Expectations are too high for the rest of season after the two part mutiny episode.

[spike232]

was starbucks quote a hint or a red herring, when she said that tigh and ellens scene at the raptor was like watching her parents making out.

[Budious]

was starbucks quote a hint or a red herring, when she said that tigh and ellens scene at the raptor was like watching her parents making out.

I noticed that as well... perhaps a tad bit of foreshadowing. If Ellen had all her memories back though, seems like we would have known it this week. Maybe she was a creation of their lab on Earth, a test subject of their organic memory transplant, a prototype for their resurrection tech. I'm gonna stop guessing and just watch the last four episodes though ;)

[ATGC]

meh, was a slow episode. I have a feeling the bay ship won't really leave, as Cavil and others will have found them or something like that.

[CPressland]

I have a feeling the bay ship won't really leave.

Erm, It's called a Base Ship or Base Star, not a bay ship.

Todays episode was... meh... at best

[rathefeare]

I liked it. A bit slower, but we needed to process the info from the last episode. I like the way they have paced to story over the series as a whole even if that makes for some slow episodes occasionally. That Michael Hogan (Saul Tigh) has not gotten more critical acclaim for this role is a crime.

[Mathachew Veteran]

I liked it. A bit slower, but we needed to process the info from the last episode.

Pffft, that's what episodes airing a week apart are for.

[CPressland]

Pffft, that's what episodes airing a week apart are for.

+1, and it's driving me NUTS!

[Hupp]

i enjoyed the episode i just thought it was just a cheap trick for the writers to go to the love angle for a miscarriage. I know they mentioned it in previous episodes but it was a lame cop-out imho.

I thought it was great that ellen was the way she was; It made perfect sense and her vindictiveness was just a treat to watch.

Now starbuck saying it was like her parents make out was a nice touch i just hope it turns out to be true.

[OfF3nSiV3]

how the hell did ellen and boomer find the fleet?