CNet rates Vista one of "worst products in history"


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Sad thing is that they were right then...and now.

win xp is great :)

anyway cnet was/is/and always will be lame :p

this is in the same league as windows vista according to them:

http://crave.cnet.co.uk/gadgets/0,39029552,49293700-5,00.htm

:D :D

MS just wanted to release their OS before Apple did theirs and it turned out to be a mistake as many people I know are considering either to stay with XP or jump to a Mac. Vista sales have been nothing but dissapointing.

You are just itching to bash Vista. And you are wrong, they've sold more than XP. This is history repeating itself. Your beloved XP went though the same exact thing. No ifs, ands, or buts. Same thing.

As a software developer, I can sympathize with the Vista developers that when it comes down to it, management and sometimes salesman dictate the release of a product when they deem it ready, not when the developers deem it ready. It happens all the time and can also be said of Leopard. It's nothing new and will continue to happen as long as their is software being made.

It's nothing new and will continue to happen as long as their is software being made.

To be precise: It will continue to happen as long as people will fund that kind of twisted development model. I will not. Thanks to the Internet I can resist them.

God, i wish these stories would just go away.... a lot of "shock jocks" are trying to give vista a bad name, when, as others in this thread have said, XP was as "unstable" and annoying pre sp-1 as vista is... Gee, I wonder why that is..... maybe it has to do with the fact that there are literally millions of hardware combinations, and at most i'd say they'd only be able to test on about 500k including beta testers, msdn technet subscribers....... and that's being VERY GENEROUS..... Plus, only a fraction of all those "testers" even send in feedback.....

So when you're working with feedback for parobably about 10k systems, with at most 10k unique hardware configurations, theres no way to even come CLOSE to guaging windows' effectiveness on everyone's computer. .... just the major models of the moment, and any OEMs who bother to take the time to create drivers for older models.... Honestly, the best way to win in the OS reliability category is to buy computers from the OEMs that are sleeping with Bill Gates- HP mostly, Dell.... thats pretty much it.... tho i wouldn't even trust dell any further than i could throw em.

Vista, to me, is a cosmetic upgrade of XP. Many game developers said that DirectX 10 wasn't really necessary. Microsoft just needed something new and added some new bells and whistles.

I am staying with XP until the next version of Windows, if that's a repeat of Vista i'm going Mac.

This is odd. Compare: http://www.cnet.com/windows-vista.html and http://www.cnet.com/topic-reviews/microsoft-windows-xp.html.

Vista generally received a 7.0 and XP 8.0 review after release according to the above websites on CNet. Now these reviews were performed when the OS when to final release.

For this to be one of the worst products ever CNet must either:

1) Have a point-scale review different from all other sites I've ever seen, where 7 is the absolute lowest score out of 14.0 (if its a 10-point scale) or they must review their products on a 100-point scale and have never told anybody.

2) They weren't honest or weren't thorough about the review of Vista and so they should review it again and explain why the 7.0 score in the first place. And why XP rated higher than Vista.

3) Vista isn't really that bad and this new review as one of the worst in history, like John Dvorak is just a draw to their website for traffic.

I'd side with answer #3, for the second reason though I think, #1 clearly explains much about CNet's editorial standards. Also why I didn't RTFA and will not RTFA at CNet ever.

This has all happened before, back when XP first came out everyone called it just 2000 with a different skin blah blah some of my friends (at the time) were die hard Win 2000 fans, they cursed and swore just at the mention of XP, eventually after actually using it and letting XP mature, they now swear by it. Vista is no different. Hell, fast forward into the future to when "Windows 7" releases, everyone will be calling it the worst OS, just Vista with a new UI, [insert some insult here] blah blah and those same people saying don't upgrade to Vista, XP is the best OS now, will be saying don't upgrade to Windows 7, Vista is the best OS then..it's happened before and it'll happen again. Fell free to disagree with me, I'll just be waiting till the Windows 7 launch to tell you I told you so :p :rofl:

Slimy rates CNet as one of "worst review sites in history"

Berserk87 rates Slimys review of Cnet Reviews "most accurate review in history"

They're obviously just doing this to get attention...which a lot of sites seem to be doing, bash vista to get attention.

where are these reports of everyone hating xp? anyone have some links?

Someone just posted a ton of them in the forums the other day... kinda histarical reading them all over again... all the XP will fail XP uses too much memory XP is slow blah blah reviews of the time...

All i can say is lets face it any microsoft OS that comes out will recieve negative attention. Its true every OS they have put out has had some complain one way or the other.

Yep, I think people just hate change. Every complaint you see was leveled at the other versions of Windows. There were alot of people who stayed on Windows 98 citing peformance on XP was so bad.

OK this is stupid

#5 Tamagotchi:

Created in 1996 by Aki Maita, Tamagotchi made manufacturer Bandai an absolute fortune. It was hugely successful and spawned countless clones. It was the must-have toy of its day. Why is it an example of terrible tech? Because it was intensely irritating.

Its rated as one of the worst because they find it irritating.

CNet worst "Expert tech reviews" in history.

I also dont get why people are still writing these reviews a year later. honestly if you didnt like it last year and still dont like it now why tell the whole world. Microsoft isnt going to listen to your bickering so deal with the freakin change. If you want an os that has subtle changes yearly go to linux or apple.

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