SuperJediMedia Posted January 18, 2003 Share Posted January 18, 2003 I have Windows XP SP1 alright, and lately I told you my computer freeze up quite often, and for a long time it went away. I thought it was fixed, yesterday played Simcity 3-4 hours without frozen up. Most times, I use computer for like 8 hour straight without frozen up, but again, I got frozen up again. It drives me crazy, and confused, so I run Chkdsk Here is the output: C:\windows>chkdskThe type of the file system is NTFS. Volume label is xxxx xxxxx. WARNING!? F parameter not specified. Running CHKDSK in read-only mode. CHKDSK is verifying files (stage 1 of 3)... File verification completed. CHKDSK is verifying indexes (stage 2 of 3)... Deleting index entry INDEX.MAP in index $I30 of file 5095. Deleting index entry OBJECTS.MAP in index $I30 of file 5095. Deleting index entry 00105286.MAP in index $I30 of file 11106. Deleting index entry 00105287.MAP in index $I30 of file 11106. Deleting index entry 00105288.MAP in index $I30 of file 11106. Deleting index entry 00105289.MAP in index $I30 of file 11106. Index verification completed. Errors found.? CHKDSK cannot continue in read-only mode So, there is a problem. I run chkdsk/f and reboot the system, and run chkdsk again to check. Here it goes again, it keeps saying "Deletinblah blah blahi> in index $I30 of filblahi>." Thblahi> represents a different name. And, I run it again and again, it does the SAME thing!!! My computer seems to have NO problems, afraid it would goto hell by now, but it runs pretty smooth SO FA:):)! So, the next thing I did is to check http://support.microsoft.com for issues, and unfortunately all I found was Windows 2000 issues, it looked similar and Microsoft said, the issue will be fixed with a service pack. Jeez, there was NO answers for Windows XP OS though. I ran a search on google, and http://groups.google.com for NEWSGROUPS discussion relating to this. And, seems other people are talking about this too. One guy seem to say, he had the same problem, but unless I misread. He even reformated his drive and reinstalled Windows XP & SP1, He still have the same problem. What the hell??? Any of you have this going on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keldyn Posted January 18, 2003 Share Posted January 18, 2003 I was experiencing something similar and found it was related to how your drives are setup on their IDE channels. Data would often become corrupted. Check that they are configured correctly. I played around with their configurations and the problem went away. Weird... :unsure: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted January 18, 2003 Share Posted January 18, 2003 I have Windows XP SP1 alright, and lately I told you my computer freeze up quite often, and for a long time it went away. I thought it was fixed, yesterday played Simcity 3-4 hours without frozen up. [More......]How about CHKDSK /R Did you try that? :yes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperJediMedia Posted January 18, 2003 Author Share Posted January 18, 2003 Ran it again CHKDSK is verifying files (stage 1 of 3)...File verification completed. CHKDSK is verifying indexes (stage 2 of 3)... Deleting index entry INDEX.MAP in index $I30 of file 5095. Deleting index entry OBJECTS.MAP in index $I30 of file 5095. Deleting index entry OBJECTS.MAP.NEW in index $I30 of file 5095. Deleting index entry OBJECT~1.NEW in index $I30 of file 5095. Deleting index entry 00106121.MAP in index $I30 of file 11106. Deleting index entry 00106122.MAP in index $I30 of file 11106. Deleting index entry 00106123.edb in index $I30 of file 11106. Deleting index entry 00106125.MAP in index $I30 of file 11106. Deleting index entry 00106126.MAP in index $I30 of file 11106. Deleting index entry 00106127.MAP in index $I30 of file 11106. Deleting index entry 00106128.MAP in index $I30 of file 11106. 98 percent completed. :cry: :cry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keldyn Posted January 18, 2003 Share Posted January 18, 2003 Have you checked the event log? What does it say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mAcOdIn Veteran Posted January 18, 2003 Veteran Share Posted January 18, 2003 Do you have a radeon? I heard a while back that if you had a radeon, XP and had set the control panel/System/Advanced/Performance Settings/Advanced and under where it says "memory usage" if it IS set to "system cache" then it may cause data corruption. This was a while back ,and I'm not sure if there was a fix for it, but i"d check out the setting if you have a radeon just to be sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperJediMedia Posted January 18, 2003 Author Share Posted January 18, 2003 I have Radeon, but don't have it set to 'system cache' though Event viewer reports no serious concerns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samoa Posted January 18, 2003 Share Posted January 18, 2003 Oh, boy. Glad I have Nvidia. :yes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperJediMedia Posted January 18, 2003 Author Share Posted January 18, 2003 (edited) And, I have also heard from the newsgroups that even if you reformat the drive and reinstall won't fix this, so why bother reformat it? I won't anyway until the drive completely stops working. I am telling you, if my computer can up for 4-5 hours each day, without freezing up. It's ok would not worry about it. I heard of the hardware (HardDrive issue) too, but I think the warrant is good for another year anyways. I am letting it be this way, for now, I do not want to risk to all files & partitions just because of this issue. When Windows .NET (2003) comes that's when I'll do a reformat & extensive testing I think, unless this thing tries die on me before Win2003. Edited January 18, 2003 by JediXAngel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperJediMedia Posted January 18, 2003 Author Share Posted January 18, 2003 (edited) I just found this, have a read! Chkdsk is prone to falsely reporting errors when in read-only mode and mightreport that a volume is corrupted even when no corruption is present. For example, Chkdsk might report corruption if NTFS modifies an area of the disk on behalf of a program at the same time Chkdsk is examining the same area. You can find out if there is any corruption by typing the following at the command prompt: fsutil dirty query c: (substitute your drive letter for c:) If it says the volume is not dirty, then you do not need to run Chkdsk because there are no file system errors on the disk. If you scheduled Chkdsk to run at startup (which you said you did but could not read the results quickly enough), a version of Chkdsk known as Autochk runs. You can review the Autochk report in the application log of the Event Viewer snap-in. Autochk information is logged by the Winlogon service, so look for entries with Winlogon listed as the source of the entry. Also, there is no version of Scandisk in Windows XP or Windows 2000. There are, however, two ways to run Chkdsk--one from the command line and other from the user interface as Dave pointed out. Both do pretty much the same thing, although the command-line version has more options. The Windows XP Resource Kit has a lot of information on Chkdsk, including all the issues I described above. The link below will take you to the RK. You want to use the Troubleshooting Disks and File Systems chapter in Part VI: Troubleshooting. http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/....asp?frame=true Hop e this helps! Hmmmm Looks like MS is Lazy to fix the Chkdsk problem here... :unsure: Edited January 18, 2003 by JediXAngel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimf43 Posted January 18, 2003 Share Posted January 18, 2003 Ran it again CHKDSK is verifying files (stage 1 of 3)... File verification completed. CHKDSK is verifying indexes (stage 2 of 3)... Deleting index entry INDEX.MAP in index $I30 of file 5095. Deleting index entry OBJECTS.MAP in index $I30 of file 5095. Deleting index entry OBJECTS.MAP.NEW in index $I30 of file 5095. Deleting index entry OBJECT~1.NEW in index $I30 of file 5095. Deleting index entry 00106121.MAP in index $I30 of file 11106. Deleting index entry 00106122.MAP in index $I30 of file 11106. Deleting index entry 00106123.edb in index $I30 of file 11106. Deleting index entry 00106125.MAP in index $I30 of file 11106. Deleting index entry 00106126.MAP in index $I30 of file 11106. Deleting index entry 00106127.MAP in index $I30 of file 11106. Deleting index entry 00106128.MAP in index $I30 of file 11106. 98 percent completed. :cry: :cry: Assuming that you are using NTFS (as is prudent), you should be running 'chkdsk C: /X /R' chkdsk parameters are: CHKDSK [volume[[path]filename]]] [/F] [/V] [/R] [/X] [/i] [/C] [/L[:size]] volume Specifies the drive letter (followed by a colon), mount point, or volume name. filename FAT only: Specifies the files to check for fragmentation. /F Fixes errors on the disk. /V On FAT/FAT32: Displays the full path and name of every file on the disk. On NTFS: Displays cleanup messages if any. /R Locates bad sectors and recovers readable information (implies /F). /L:size NTFS only: Changes the log file size to the specified number of kilobytes. If size is not specified, displays current size. /X Forces the volume to dismount first if necessary. All opened handles to the volume would then be invalid (implies /F). /I NTFS only: Performs a less vigorous check of index entries. /C NTFS only: Skips checking of cycles within the folder structure. The /I or /C switch reduces the amount of time required to run Chkdsk by skipping certain checks of the volume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helmers Posted January 18, 2003 Share Posted January 18, 2003 I have Windows XP SP1 alright, and lately I told you my computer freeze up quite often, and for a long time it went away. I thought it was fixed, yesterday played Simcity 3-4 hours without frozen up.Most times, I use computer for like 8 hour straight without frozen up, but again, I got frozen up again. Any of you have this going on? Did it crash when playing SimCity? Because this can happen for a lot of reasons. If you were playing while it froze, then it probably just needed to sync the NTFS journal with the backup. No need to worry. It could be corruption, try to not overclock (if you are doing this now) and see what happens. You see: CHKDSK is verifying files (stage 1 of 3)... File verification completed. CHKDSK is verifying indexes (stage 2 of 3)... Deleting index entry INDEX.MAP in index $I30 of file 5095. ...meaning that the FILES are okay. It is just NTFS that need to fix itself up a little. Nothing bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperJediMedia Posted January 20, 2003 Author Share Posted January 20, 2003 (edited) Then, I went to do check in Safe Mode, it says difference messages, but not the same junk anymore. It says like Correcting errors in the master file table's (MFT) DATA attribute.Correcting errors in the Volume Bitmap. Windows found problems with the file system. The newsgroups results I got, seems people are also confused about it as well. The only MS rep/tech help responder is the one I quoted, saying Chkdsk is prune to errors (I am starting to believe that more than my computer/HD really has disk problems). Go figure! And, Everytime Simcity 4 froze when I tried to save! :no: Edited January 20, 2003 by JediXAngel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperJediMedia Posted January 20, 2003 Author Share Posted January 20, 2003 So, after all I read & learned, I have reached a Conclusion. There IS something WRONG with Windows XP's CHKDSK = My Final verdict! Don't believe what CHKDSK says, or you'll go format & return your hard disk for the WRONG reasons! And, Microsoft NEEDS to put out a patch to fix this Stupid BUG causing all this confusion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC Posted January 20, 2003 Share Posted January 20, 2003 Does it only freeze after (even a couple hours) or while you are playing simcity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperJediMedia Posted January 20, 2003 Author Share Posted January 20, 2003 Right about when I tried to SAVE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morganpugh84 Posted January 20, 2003 Share Posted January 20, 2003 try disabling the disk cache option. I am at work and have to go now but I will post the exact how to do it when I get home. It is under either IDE or Hard Drive settings in Device Manager. Have a little look for it, I think it is under the Advanced tab. Sorted all the issues instantly for a friend of mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC Posted January 20, 2003 Share Posted January 20, 2003 maybe it is a problem with simcity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morganpugh84 Posted January 20, 2003 Share Posted January 20, 2003 Hi, Here is what to do to turn of disk write cache... go to device manager and then go to the properties of the disk drive you are having problems on. Go to Policies and then disable it by unchecking the box. here is a picture if you are unsure... http://homepage.ntlworld.com/morganpugh/ot...r/harddrive.png good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperJediMedia Posted January 21, 2003 Author Share Posted January 21, 2003 Hey, I have run this at Safe mode a second time. And, it DOES NOT show any errors at all. So, yes, that perhaps confirms Chkdsk is prune to errors sometimes. Besides, I am using Partitions created using PM7, maybe that's what cause confusions. And, I have heard from some people saying that certain Windows XP services will do this too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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