Heroes Volume 3 : Villains


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People who left felt the story went nowhere or too many stupid things happening. What makes you think a promo will lure them back in? Many viewers think it's all a mess now. Nothing is going to change. Viewers were high in the first season (and maybe parts of second) because they thought it was an X-Men show on primetime TV. The ship has been sinking for some time now. There's no hope. It's going to end this season or beginning of next.

Some people going to leave the show, for whatever reasons. The other thread explained it very well the reasons, it's just natural way of things!

Again, here it is and I couldn't said it better

I still love the show.... I agree that it does jump around a bit but with the amount of characters it kind of has to. In season 2 they tried to focus on a few characters per week but then we had to wait 2 weeks to see what was going on with Peter in Ireland while we were seeing what Hiro was doing in Japan. So now in Season 3 it feels like they are trying to cover all of the stories each week a little bit until they can tie them all together. I believe the true fans of the show will continue to watch, I do not believe they are losing viewers due to writing. People just stop watching shows sometimes because its too much, this season my wife and I cut out 2 or 3 shows just because it became too much tv to watch and the dvr was getting out of control. We chose to give up CSI Miami while others will choose to give up Heroes... such is life.

I and A lot of people don't feel the show suck now.

It's different than Season 1, of course, but I feel it's not getting worse as some think.

I WANT to know what's going to happen, Before heroes, Papa Petrilli's past, Sylar/Peter Power and Moral struggles ALL VERY interesting to me. BUT They just didn't promote enough for me to get excited about the future, no wonder nobody else NEW is coming to the show.

What they have done with the promotion is Lazy! What they have done with the firing of two lead writers is Copout but NOT the real answer/solution to problems (if Any) with the show!

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The way they edit the trailer is Pathetic! I can even do BETTER! :no: They need to FIRE that person, to replace someone who CAN actually make appealing trailers.

Anway, yeah I miss Caitlin

Also, I am looking for COOL season 3 promo images, to make sigs/Avatars out of :)

What do you mean we came to terms... what happened? what is the official position on her? oops we forgot?

Well Peter returned without her thats the actual resolution for now, who knows we may go back.

But you can't go back... she was taken to a future that doesn't exist.

Then she is lost and will never be seen again, Season 2 was a complete write off tbh because of the writers strike.

It's poor writing, you shouldn't leave a key character like that in no where.

Why Key character?

I mean, she and Peter have a Relationship that still is Unsolved.

With Nathan and Matt's Ex-wife, they are different. They are divorced and going their own ways, so that should be resolved.

But Caitlin's resolution makes NO sense! It's like a cliffhanger that have no followup!

Also, bring back Monica and have her to useful rather than write her OFF the show!

It's poor writing, you shouldn't leave a key character like that in no where.

Season 2 was poor writing fullstop. They've clearly decided to go in a different direction and I feel it's working; I'm not going to worry about a few minor characters, particularly when I wasn't bothered by them anyway.

Did Peter tell Caitlin "I am coming back for you" or didn't he?

I thought he did, but don't remember for sure; don't own S2 yet

She got captured but I don't he went back for her, heroeswiki says:

Out of Time

Caitlin and Peter search for people in New York, and are ambushed by a HazMat team. Both are forced to shower in a quarantine room, and decontaminated. Peter is told that Caitlin will be deported back to Ireland, and, after seeing her in a line of people supposedly about to be deported, Peter tries and fails to teleport them both back to the present.

Set Pictures from Volume 4

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Tim Kring spoke with SciFi.com and provided us with some more details for tonight's Heroes Episode 3x08 Villains.

For those of you who can not wait for tonight's episode, here is a summary of what to expect in the flashback episode:

1) We will see former Company man Thompson (Eric Roberts)

2) This episode is an origins story for the Villains, including Sylar and Arthur

3) We will learn more about the history of Primatech and the connection to Claire's mom Meredith

4) The episode takes 1 year before the pilot episode

5) We will learn many of Petrelli family secrets.

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Another 3.08 Promo

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    • The quantum search for Time's origin had an equally mind-boggling conclusion by Sayan Sen Image by Steve Johnson via Pexels A theoretical study from researchers at the University of Surrey suggested that the direction of time may not be fundamentally fixed in certain quantum systems. The work, published in Scientific Reports, examined how the “arrow of time” could emerge from microscopic physics and found that time-reversal symmetry can remain intact even in models used to describe processes such as energy loss and thermalisation. The arrow of time refers to the observed one-way direction from past to future in everyday life. In macroscopic processes, this is easy to see. Spilled milk spreads across a table and does not gather back into a glass, and heat flows from hotter objects to colder ones. These processes shape the common sense idea that time moves in a single direction. However, at the level of fundamental physics, many equations do not prefer a direction of time. Time-reversal symmetry means that the same physical laws can describe a system whether time moves forward or backward. This has made it difficult to explain why irreversible behaviour appears in the large-scale world even when the underlying rules do not require it. Dr Andrea Rocco, Associate Professor in Physics and Mathematical Biology at the University of Surrey, described this contrast: "One way to explain this is when you look at a process like spilt milk spreading across a table, it's clear that time is moving forward. But if you were to play that in reverse, like a movie, you'd immediately know something was wrong – it would be hard to believe milk could just gather back into a glass. However, there are processes, such as the motion of a pendulum, that look just as believable in reverse. The puzzle is that, at the most fundamental level, the laws of physics resemble the pendulum; they do not account for irreversible processes. Our findings suggest that while our common experience tells us that time only moves one way, we are just unaware that the opposite direction would have been equally possible." The study focused on open quantum systems, which are quantum systems that interact with a surrounding environment. This environment, often described as a heat bath, can exchange energy and information with the system. The researchers used this framework to study how a direction of time might appear even when the underlying physics does not enforce one. A key part of the analysis involved the Markov approximation. This is a simplification used in many models where the system is assumed not to retain memory of its past states. The idea is that changes depend only on the current state, not on earlier history. This is commonly used when studying thermalisation, which is the process where a system settles into equilibrium with its environment. The study also used concepts such as master equations, including the Lindblad and Pauli equations, which describe how probabilities of different quantum states change over time. Another related model discussed was quantum Brownian motion, which describes the random-like movement of a quantum particle interacting continuously with its environment. In these descriptions, a “memory kernel” can appear, which is a mathematical term that accounts for how past states influence current behaviour. The researchers found that applying the Markov approximation did not break time-reversal symmetry. Even when the system interacted with an effectively infinite heat bath, the resulting equations of motion remained symmetric in time. This meant that the same mathematical description could, in principle, run forward or backward in time without contradiction. The study further showed that standard frameworks used in open quantum systems, including quantum Brownian motion and master equations like the Lindblad and Pauli forms, could be written in a time-symmetric way. These equations are typically used to describe processes that look irreversible, such as dissipation and thermalisation, but the results suggested they can also be interpreted as allowing evolution in both time directions. Thomas Guff, Research Fellow in Quantum Thermodynamics, said: "The surprising part of this project was that even after making the standard simplifying assumption to our equations describing open quantum systems, the equations still behaved the same way whether the system was moving forwards or backwards in time. When we carefully worked through the maths, we found that this behaviour had to be the case because a key part of the equation, the "memory kernel," is symmetrical in time. We also found a small but important detail which is usually overlooked – a time discontinuous factor emerged that kept the time-symmetry property intact. It’s unusual to see such a mathematical mechanism in a physics equation because it's not continuous, and it was very surprising to see it appear so naturally." The researchers also noted that deriving a one-way arrow of time from time-reversal symmetric microscopic dynamics remains an open problem across fields such as thermodynamics, statistical mechanics, particle physics, and cosmology. Their results suggested that some standard descriptions of irreversible behaviour in open quantum systems may be better understood using a time-symmetric formulation of Markovianity. According to the study, processes such as thermalisation, which are usually treated as irreversible, could in theory be described in a way that allows evolution in either time direction under the same rules. 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