spaceelf Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 what their rushing for is:PerfectDisk 2008 Beta Build 39......LOL PD2008_WS.exe there also a beta for VMWARE--Server--Exchange No I'm fairly sure Raxco isn't directly distributing beta builds to endusers. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/615485-perfectdisk-2008-professional/page/2/#findComment-589160970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
soldier1st Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 the only thing i dont like about pd is that i need to do constant offline defrags alot i am glad the 2008 one will have a semi automatic defrag where if it is inactive however long u set it it will defrag if needed,i liked dk cuzz i never had to do offline defrags but i am always changing from 1 to another,i want one that is automatic meaning i dont have to deal with it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/615485-perfectdisk-2008-professional/page/2/#findComment-589160993 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Frothy Posted January 26, 2008 Author Share Posted January 26, 2008 No I'm fairly sure Raxco isn't directly distributing beta builds to endusers. The build I have is '39', it's not beta and it is downloaded from the Raxco ftp. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/615485-perfectdisk-2008-professional/page/2/#findComment-589162829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spaceelf Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 Yes, 39 is the release build, but that's not beta is it? The difference is negligable, admittedly, but it exists. It's entirely possible that some minor cleanup work was done between the beta and the release of build 39, also. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/615485-perfectdisk-2008-professional/page/2/#findComment-589163053 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiagosilva29 Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 as a registered user, i've just got the upgrade key and download. it is much faster than version 8, but *why o why* have they used the ribbon interface?i thought the whole idea of the ribbon interface was a way to put loads and loads of options into context sensitive tabs (al a ms office), perfectdisk only has a couple of buttons, it makes the interface quite clunky. sure, it *looks* better than the previous version (which looked like it was running under the classic win 98 theme), but the ribbon interface is just not appropriate for a defrag tool - all those options could be stuck in menus saving a shed load of screen space. but like i said earlier, overall though speed improvements. Agreed (except in the part that it looks better). If you're on XP, could you provide a screenshot under Classic mode? Thanks. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/615485-perfectdisk-2008-professional/page/2/#findComment-589163224 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harlem39s Finest Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 whats wrong with 'windows defragmenter' ? snake oil anyone ? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/615485-perfectdisk-2008-professional/page/2/#findComment-589163233 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spaceelf Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 whats wrong with 'windows defragmenter' ? snake oil anyone ? Snake oil is a weak argument, especially against a product that many at Microsoft purchase. If it was snake oil, it wouldn't be purchased by millions of informed users... Windows defrag can't do a complete job, doesn't use aggressive techniques, and in some cases leaves you scratching your head saying 'WTF' (as in Vista.) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/615485-perfectdisk-2008-professional/page/2/#findComment-589163267 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwjw1 Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 (edited) The build I have is '39', it's not beta and it is downloaded from the Raxco ftp. yes, your right, its available via the ftp pdbeta1/PD2008_WS.exe...so you decide and then see what build # is released on the 29th or soon there after. I was told this is still beta..maybe they are going to now make it 'gold' and move it out of the beta folder...but my guess is look for build 40 Edited January 26, 2008 by jwjw1 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/615485-perfectdisk-2008-professional/page/2/#findComment-589163277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harlem39s Finest Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 Snake oil is a weak argument, especially against a product that many at Microsoft purchase. If it was snake oil, it wouldn't be purchased by millions of informed users...Windows defrag can't do a complete job, doesn't use aggressive techniques, and in some cases leaves you scratching your head saying 'WTF' (as in Vista.) ok, thanks for explaining, are there any comparisons/benchmarks that compare 'all' defragmenters ? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/615485-perfectdisk-2008-professional/page/2/#findComment-589163282 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiagosilva29 Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 (edited) ok, thanks for explaining, are there any comparisons/benchmarks that compare 'all' defragmenters ? Just try the ones in the non-commercial list. Edited January 26, 2008 by tiagosilva29 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/615485-perfectdisk-2008-professional/page/2/#findComment-589163327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spaceelf Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 Just try the ones in the non-commercial list. JkDefrag is worthwhile, but a lot of the stuff in that list isn't. PageDefrag is good too, on 32 bit systems anyway. Don't think it works on x64 at all. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/615485-perfectdisk-2008-professional/page/2/#findComment-589164051 Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinbo Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 looks nice, but I was hoping this version would be more like Diskeeper where you can "set it and forget it" I think you are looking for the StealthPatrol option under the AutoPilot tab. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/615485-perfectdisk-2008-professional/page/2/#findComment-589168460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Frothy Posted January 28, 2008 Author Share Posted January 28, 2008 yes, your right, its available via the ftppdbeta1/PD2008_WS.exe...so you decide and then see what build # is released on the 29th or soon there after. I was told this is still beta..maybe they are going to now make it 'gold' and move it out of the beta folder...but my guess is look for build 40 You might have noticed that I linked to the public ftp and the file. There is no build 40, 39 is final and its on the release ftp. Why the speculation? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/615485-perfectdisk-2008-professional/page/2/#findComment-589168884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+John. Subscriber¹ Posted January 28, 2008 Subscriber¹ Share Posted January 28, 2008 Looks like a nice update. I'll download tomorrow. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/615485-perfectdisk-2008-professional/page/2/#findComment-589168946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EL1TE Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 Delivering a unique set of easy-to-use features and benefits not found in any other solution, PerfectDisk? 2008 will make your computer run like new. Work and play faster - and smarter. PerfectDisk makes everything you do on your computer faster - so you can be more efficient at your work or play. PerfectDisk 2008?s patented SMARTPlacement? optimization is paired with its exclusive single-pass defragmentation and Space Restoration Technology? to maximize PC and laptop performance. All controlled and automated according to your unique requirements through AutoPilot Scheduling? or StealthPatrol? unattended background processing. Every time you use your computer, even when it's brand new, the files on your PC or laptop will continuously become fragmented. This means that these files are split into millions of pieces, and this occurs even more so when you go to add, modify and delete them. So when you go to access a file - even just to read it - it will take much longer than necessary because Windows has to first find each piece of the file before you can even see it. This makes using your computer, and doing everything you want, much slower than it should be. Fragmentation also leads to much slower boot times and will make applications run slow or even potentially cause them to "lock-up" or freeze. Defragging your computer puts the pieces of your files back together into a single piece - the way they should be. A defragmented computer will boot quicker, files will be accessed faster, and your applications will not hang. A good disk defragger will not only defragment, but will also consolidate the free space on your drives into one large piece so when you create a new file, there will be enough free space to save that file in a single piece, rather than fragmenting right away. Defrag for a faster computer and a healthy PC. Download: PerfectDisk 2008 Build 39 Professional | 33.4MB (Shareware, $39.99) Download: PerfectDisk 2008 (Other Versions) View: What's New Link: Home Page Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/615485-perfectdisk-2008-professional/page/2/#findComment-589172752 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unimatrix Xero Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 ohh cool thankx man downloading now Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/615485-perfectdisk-2008-professional/page/2/#findComment-589172770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EL1TE Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 i would like to understand why people use this crap, yes, i've said crap. This thing is SLOW as hell, takes ages only to analyze the drives and i wonder how long to defrag. If someone want a advanced defrag tool, then there are NO better than Diskeeper. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/615485-perfectdisk-2008-professional/page/2/#findComment-589173247 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambroos Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 I love the Office 2007 UI, but the way they made their own variant is just eww... If you really want good defrag, try O&O Defrag! The best ever, it's fast, looks good, runs as service, doesn't take performance away with AutoSense, ... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/615485-perfectdisk-2008-professional/page/2/#findComment-589173515 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grik Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 I used Perfectdisk years ago but i must agree with yiu, it keeps getting more bloated and bloated, back then i stopped using it cause it added a startup runtime and it wouldnt work if it was disabled. But back then it was sure the best, now i just dont use this kind of software anymore, maybe i?ll try diskeeper, lets see how this thread develops i bet many would comment on your words. Obrigado Thanks Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/615485-perfectdisk-2008-professional/page/2/#findComment-589173519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+orgitnized Subscriber¹ Posted January 30, 2008 Subscriber¹ Share Posted January 30, 2008 I used Perfectdisk years ago but i must agree with yiu, it keeps getting more bloated and bloated, back then i stopped using it cause it added a startup runtime and it wouldnt work if it was disabled.But back then it was sure the best, now i just dont use this kind of software anymore, maybe i?ll try diskeeper, lets see how this thread develops i bet many would comment on your words. Obrigado Thanks Yeah, just like there is no better AV than Kaspersky :rolleyes:: Different software satisfies different needs, which satisfy different people. If Diskeeper was the best, no other one would ever exist. It's all a matter of opinion. But if there are more constructive points to be made, maybe you guys should look at posting your opinions in this thread instead. Just a suggestion... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/615485-perfectdisk-2008-professional/page/2/#findComment-589173557 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Shake Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 So what is the difference between this and Perfectdisk 8?? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/615485-perfectdisk-2008-professional/page/2/#findComment-589173688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spaceelf Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 It's faster, more efficient, has an autopilot mode, has a native 64 bit version, and the interface is far better. http://www.perfectdisk.com/home_office/hom...ssional.cfm#new (as was already linked to) says more. Diskeeper has been less well received by the community for various reasons, and every time I've tried to use O&O since V4 I've been sorely disappointed. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/615485-perfectdisk-2008-professional/page/2/#findComment-589173699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Frothy Posted January 30, 2008 Author Share Posted January 30, 2008 Hey. I already posted about this here. Weird how suddenly it becomes news 'now'. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/615485-perfectdisk-2008-professional/page/2/#findComment-589174052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EL1TE Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 Hey. I already posted about this here. Weird how suddenly it becomes news 'now'. You have posted the announcement of a new version. I've posted the new version. :| Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/615485-perfectdisk-2008-professional/page/2/#findComment-589174260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smigit Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 (edited) i would like to understand why people use this crap, yes, i've said crap.This thing is SLOW as hell, takes ages only to analyze the drives and i wonder how long to defrag. If someone want a advanced defrag tool, then there are NO better than Diskeeper. It's also substantually more expensive to get multiple licenses for the versions that have all the features. A PerfectDisk 3 PC license is 69.95 and I think I got mine with 20 - 30% off that price. With Diskeeper you get 25% off the individual price which for home is $29.95, professional $49.95, and pro premier $99 and it's the later versions that add alot of the really worthwhile features. Considering I wanted 3 licenses it would have really added up with diskeeper.the Windows Home Server Edition is even better value A single copy of PerfectDisk 2008 for Windows Home Server is priced at just $39.99, and also includes a copy of PerfectDisk 2008 Professional for one of your networked PCs. A home site license is also available for just $99.99, and provides a single license of PerfectDisk 8 for Windows Home Server and up to 10 licenses of PerfectDisk 2008 Professional for your network. so for $99 theres your server and 10 pc's covered.make no mistake, I liked Diskeeper too but when PerfectDisk cost me (when i purchased) say $50 - $70 for 3 copies with 2 years (I believe) of upgrade protection then financially anyway it's alot cheaper than three copies of the more advanced Diskeeper editions. Perfect Disk may lack alot of the more advanced automation settings, but I really only need it to auto scan when I'm not at the PC which it does with the screensaver mode and outside of that the manual scan is fine. I could care less if one takes a bit longer, it's a background task after all so it doesnt really matter and the speed is largely due to diskeeper and perfect disk having different ideas about how files should be best laid out on a HD for a defrag. The app being slower won't stop me doing what I need to do in the meantime and if it gets the job done I'm happy. edit: My other issue with Diskeeper is the 2TB partition limit on the Pro Premier and the stupidly small 768GB Limit for the other versions. With my next Desktop I'm very very seriously looking at having a 3TB raided partition and based on what Diskeeper supports this partition just wouldn't work with the software. With 750GB HD's being so affordable nowdays I think it's unrealistic to keep the 768GB limit on all but the most expensive SDK of the application when even then I don't think the 2TB limit cuts it. I realise it's likely to do with the MBR having a 2TB limit, but with GPT support in Vista for larger partitions I don't see why the software needs to limit you. Edited January 31, 2008 by Smigit Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/615485-perfectdisk-2008-professional/page/2/#findComment-589174584 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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