wrestling The Big Wrestling Thread!

[Rappy Veteran]

yawn, hbk ... again .... does anyone know what retired means?

he has a new show out where people follow him hunting animals...

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yawn, hbk ... again .... does anyone know what retired means?

Retired means he doesn't compete.

Doesn't mean he can't do other things.

[MightyJordan]

WWE announced yesterday that Evan Bourne vs. Sin Cara will happen next week on RAW, so at least they're putting that right. Hopefully, they'll do a Kofi vs. Ziggler rematch as well, as that was supposed to be Vickie banned from ringside, not 2 out of 3 falls.

I still don't believe that Kane vs. Mark Henry was genuinely voted as an arm wrestling match. :p

[timster]

ever wondered what referee John Cone gets up to in his off-time?

[Rappy Veteran]

ever wondered what referee John Cone gets up to in his off-time?

wth :rofl:

[red.]

Does anyone here watch Zack Ryder's videos on YouTube? They're really great and pretty much the only WWE related thing i watch anymore.

"This is the WWE dropping the ball with Zack Ryder" and his various jokes about jobbing/not getting pushed/drawing money/getting along with marks :laugh:

[MightyJordan]

Chavo Guerrero has been released.

World Wrestling Entertainment has come to terms on the release of WWE SmackDown Superstar Chavo Guerrero as of today, June 25, 2011. We wish Guerrero the best in all future endeavors.

Chavo asked for his release, BTW. He's explained why on Twitter...

Yes, it's true. My release is the big news I was talking about. But let's get something straight. I asked for my release. I was just tired of not being used correctly. Just cuz u can make other ppl look good, doesn't mean they should just have u lose to them. The same thing happened to Eddie. After being champ, they still had him working mid card status. Being a Guerrero, we've been taught since diapers to get the most out of ppl & matches. It's our gift, but also our curse. WWE has always used us to make other ppl look good. It all comes down to being happy. I was not happy in WWE anymore. I had a smile on my face last night though when I got my release though! :) now it's time for me to start being a Guerrero again, and start kicking ass again, be able to tell stories in the ring like u know we can. :) win or lose.

I will never go back to the place WWE put me in. I will never go back to being under utilized and watching ppl who suck get bigger "pushes" than me! Thank u to all of u who stuck by me & kept reminding me, I was better than that! :) stay tuned.. Big things coming!! Now I will really be able to entertain u! :) like me or hate me, 1 thing I have always tried to do is entertain u and give u fans your $ worth. Even if my hands were tied most of the time. I love u all and can't wait for the future!! So happy. :)

I don't blame him for leaving, to be honest. There's a lot of underused superstars that deserve to be pushed more than some of the top stars at the moment. Instead, we continue to suffer from Super-Cena, and for some unknown reason, Christian is still in the limelight. He's had his title run, no one cares about him now. Oh yeah, and we're suffering through Jinder Mahal, too. He is boring!

BTW, anyone notice they've started playing pre-recorded Sin Cara chants during his match now? I heard it echoing during the match, and no one in the audience was chanting. I'm also fairly certain they played in some boos for Christian after the end of the main event.

[+Nik Louch Subscriber²]

See, I don't know anything of Chavo other than him being WWE's worker who is used in squash matches and comedy skits. But knowing the little that I do of his background, I am not surprised.

[Rappy Veteran]

shame a cruiser weight legend

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BTW, anyone notice they've started playing pre-recorded Sin Cara chants during his match now? I heard it echoing during the match, and no one in the audience was chanting. I'm also fairly certain they played in some boos for Christian after the end of the main event.

You sure about that? Hell of an accusation. Thats a WCW move (Goldberg, mostly), something Vince has said he would never do.

[Rappy Veteran]

You sure about that? Hell of an accusation. Thats a WCW move (Goldberg, mostly), something Vince has said he would never do.

people aren't so into Sin Cara that WWE had hoped so it wouldn't surprise me

[MightyJordan]

You sure about that? Hell of an accusation. Thats a WCW move (Goldberg, mostly), something Vince has said he would never do.

I'm not 100% certain, but it sounded pre-recorded, and when I looked at the crowd at that point, I couldn't see any of them chanting. Maybe it was just coming from one side of the arena, but it was loud, and the side of the crowd that you can see on the TV, almost no one was chanting on that side.

people aren't so into Sin Cara that WWE had hoped so it wouldn't surprise me

I would be more into Sin Cara if they hadn't messed about with his moves. In the promo videos leading up to his debut, I always saw a special move he did that led into an arm submission. Now, when he wrestles, that move is just a regular finisher with no submission at the end, just a pinfall.

[Rappy Veteran]

I would be more into Sin Cara if they hadn't messed about with his moves. In the promo videos leading up to his debut, I always saw a special move he did that led into an arm submission. Now, when he wrestles, that move is just a regular finisher with no submission at the end, just a pinfall.

it could be because its like the crossface...are they allowing that again?

[MightyJordan]

it could be because its like the crossface...are they allowing that again?

Hmm, I never really thought it looked like the Crossface when I saw it. But looking back at the original promo video, looks like I screwed up again. It looked like he's putting that guy in a submission the first time I saw it, but that's pretty much the same way he does it now.

The move in question is 25 seconds into the video.

You've gotta admit though, that could be turned into a great submission move. :p

[Rappy Veteran]

it is an amazing move...in some of the older videos its amazing!

[MightyJordan]

^ Aha! That's where I saw it from! :)

[Rappy Veteran]

actually second thoughts its a fujiwara armbar...or sort of :rofl:

[Rappy Veteran]

Former WWE star Batista has launched an account on Twitter via twitter.com/Real_DBautista. The account has been confirmed by his official website, Demon-Wrestling.com. He posted an introductory message explaining what he's been up to since parting ways with WWE last year.

"So I'm giving in to my rule of NO social networking because I promised my boy Josh Rafferty that i would......so here we go!" Batista wrote. "First off!!!!! NO HATERS ALLOWED!!! I hate HATERS!! I wish all haters a Nick Diaz style ass woopin! go somewhere else!

"This is what i've done since I left WWE a year ago....3 movies, first one "House of the Rising Sun" being released next month. riding low with my homies.... THE IMPERIALS!!!! Los Angeles chapter....sup Francisco,Junior, El Presidente Tomas..(we miss you Jesse) training my ass off at Gracie Fighter Pleasant Hill Cali, Gracie Fighter Tampa Fl., and Powerhouse Gym in Downtown Tampa. ....and chillin with Sarah : )"

Batista also says he plans on fighting no matter what.

He wrote, "So I'll repeat myself because haters are not only losers but they also seem to be illiterate! NO ****ING HATERS! no negative chi here!!!! and God willing...YES I will be fighting. even if i have to walk my old ass to the cage with a cane!"

Batista then criticizes WWE's "PG" product, writing, "I'm the biggest wrestling fan there is..which is why I'm boycotting the PG BS! They're selling watered down art bro. Kills me."

Batista also responded to queries regarding his recent weight loss. He says he gave up weights and eliminated certain foods from his diet.

"Gave up the weights, gluten, red meat, pork....down to 260...feel great," he wrote. "Leaner than ever though. I feel great at this weight."

[The Teej]

it is an amazing move...in some of the older videos its amazing!

Holy freaking moly, that's awesome!

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I'm not 100% certain, but it sounded pre-recorded, and when I looked at the crowd at that point, I couldn't see any of them chanting. Maybe it was just coming from one side of the arena, but it was loud, and the side of the crowd that you can see on the TV, almost no one was chanting on that side.

Just watched the match. The crowd was really hot right from the beginning, and both of the Sin Cara chants during the match were clearly from the crowd.

[Y2Stu]

what an awesome and truthful worked "shoot" promo by CM Punk at the end of Raw :shifty:

[LOC Veteran]

Yeah, that was one of the best promos I've ever seen. Punk is seriously awesome. I don't know what's going to happen in July, whether he resigned already, or will resign, or won't resign. But Punk IMO really is the best in wrestling right now.

WWE either really, really wants him to stay and is thus giving him this huge exposure and stick/mat time. Or WWE already resigned him, and are just pushing him the way he finally deserves to be pushed.

Also, R Truth is getting REALLY good. I just hope he hasn't been buried now (after the Cena match last PPV) and will be relegated to nothingness again.

[MightyJordan]

DDP! :woot:

Just saw CM Punk's "shoot" promo. Awesome work, Punk. (Y) Obviously was a worked shoot though, because if it was a genuine shoot, they would have cut him off as soon as he mentioned Cena kissing Vince's arse. :p But mentioning Paul Heyman, NJPW, "Dwayne", Colt Cabana, Stephanie and Triple H taking over after Vince, and so on, does make it fairly convincing to the regular viewers. :p

[Zoom7000]

it could be because its like the crossface...are they allowing that again?

I'm pretty sure I saw Shawn Michaels and Triple H use it after the Chris Benoit incident and I'm sure I've also seen CM Punk use it too. So I think the Crossface is allowed again. Just don't call it a Crippler Crossface! :p

Oh and yes, CM Punk's shoot promo, brilliant! They made it look very real too which really added to the promo - we need to see more mic work like this in the WWE and less Cole and Vicky!

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It was a shoot promo, but the entire overall angle is a work.

Two giant hints to that: Wearing the Austin shirt and not mentioning TNA.

And then the 'suspension' where they 'think' this ends his contract. If he was really leaving, that would be it. No 'thinking' needed.

It was awesome though.

Oh, and by the way, who wanted this? Cena. Hate all you want, but that man gives 120% for the WWE.